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Why do guest players receive buffs that home players do not?
eudae
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This is counter-intuitive and provides an imbalance for players who home on, say, Auriel's Bow NA and guest on Wabbajack NA.
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭because ZOS logic and eternal foresight"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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nukeyoo✭✭✭So that you can PvDoor to victory on empty campaigns and then reap the benefits on guest campaigns... I mean comon! Rolling with 2 or 3 emperors with full buffs from other dead campaigns is how you utilize ZOS logic and eternal foresight to the fullest!- done w/ it6 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭So that you can PvDoor to victory on empty campaigns and then reap the benefits on guest campaigns... I mean comon! Rolling with 2 or 3 emperors with full buffs from other dead campaigns is how you utilize ZOS logic and eternal foresight to the fullest!
why not 20 emperors?"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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They should add a "start your own" campaign feature then we could make this happen!Halrloprillalar wrote: »
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭
They should add a "start your own" campaign feature then we could make this happen!Halrloprillalar wrote: »
zomg time to start a poll"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Fissh✭✭✭✭✭read more, you might find they have addressed this, but alas...insulting ESO with negativity seems to be the norm in forums versus constructive critics.<X-Raided>12 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭read more, you might find they have addressed this, but alas...insulting ESO with negativity seems to be the norm in forums versus constructive critics.
not seeing any 'fixes' for this anywhere in any notes.
I have a hard time with 'constructive' when every major patch I find they broke more than they fixed especially in AvA."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Zintair✭✭✭✭It's about as constructive as underhandedly saying they are fixing the lag the day before subscriptions are up. Which did not work until much later and is broken again.
Or perhaps saying Craglorn is being released the day before subscriptions are up the month before that. And then saying opps it was a mistake.
It's a two way street Fissh.Edited by Zintair on June 25, 2014 7:45PM0 -
Fissh✭✭✭✭✭http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/107716/upcoming-campaign-changes#latest
What game has ever had perfection 3 months into launch? (MMO)
Doesn't matter, self-entitlement versus helping/supporting community.....lost cause now and probably for every game in the future.<X-Raided>8 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/107716/upcoming-campaign-changes#latest
What game has ever had perfection 3 months into launch? (MMO)
Doesn't matter, self-entitlement versus helping/supporting community.....lost cause now and probably for every game in the future.
what does that link have to do with guesting and home buffs?"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Fissh✭✭✭✭✭Someone said "not seeing any fixes anywhere". The link is in response to that.<X-Raided>1
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Fissh✭✭✭✭✭As for guest getting buffs other don't...haven't seen it, nor heard of it being an issue. The link responds to campaign hopping, not that, sorry.<X-Raided>1
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@Fissh - Perhaps you should have knowledge of the issue being discussed in the thread before trying to act knowledgeable. Much less fail that way.As for guest getting buffs other don't...haven't seen it, nor heard of it being an issue. The link responds to campaign hopping, not that, sorry.
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭careful, ZOS has a problem with the use of gifs apparently.
also OT: i wish my pvp buffs wouldn't be so picky as to when they decide to show up and when not, or actually show up more than they don't. Ah well..."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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GrimCyclone✭✭✭✭✭Halrloprillalar wrote: »because ZOS logic and eternal foresight
This is the answer to the thread by the way, OP. It's a bit sarcastic, but it's true.0 -
What game has ever had perfection 3 months into launch? (MMO)
WoW, duh. I would know, I've been playing it since the start of this summer.
(Disclaimer: I played a Ret' Pally in vanilla up to Wrath, I'm being facetious, as is my nature)0 -
Morticielle✭✭✭Because they mostly are winning team joiners and need every help they can get.
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Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand0 -
Limitless✭✭✭Because reasons.Ebonheart Pact
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eudae✭GrimCyclone wrote: »Halrloprillalar wrote: »because ZOS logic and eternal foresight
This is the answer to the thread by the way, OP. It's a bit sarcastic, but it's true.
It might be a valid answer but leaving it unanswered will get more attention to the issue, perhaps warranting a real ZOS answer.0 -
DredenSoul ShrivenI've never gotten buffs from the PvP campaigns, and I'm in a home and guest campaign. This isn't a jape about the state of my alliance losing or anything like that; I'm actually serious and wondering if I'm bugged in that regard.0 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭This sounds a lot like the debate started yesterday, which was..."Why is Person A getting more benefits when Person A paid $30 and Person B paid $60?"
Anyway, one of the few benefits to having a guest campaign is so you can do more daily quests from bounty board. The other mission boards are repeatable. Thus, you can get 2 bonuses in the same day with bounty boards if you have guest campaigns. Now, that doesn't mean you'll do it, but that guest campaign is a sort of "increase/share the wealth".If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
eudae✭This sounds a lot like the debate started yesterday, which was..."Why is Person A getting more benefits when Person A paid $30 and Person B paid $60?"
Sure, I agree with having guest campaigns. I don't agree with guests getting bonuses though. Guest players do not have to earn their bonuses to have them on a guest server so I disagree with your analogy. Once it becomes clear that you won't get emperor on a server, the best solution is to home on a server that your faction owns and just guest on your current.0 -
eudae✭Oh right - not to mention the whole 10-30k difference you get for homing on a campaign that your team is winning.
To anyone new to the argument: even if you don't PvP at all, home to a server that your faction is stomping everyone on, get to reward tier 3 (only takes a few hours or so), then leave. You can continue to PvP on a different guest server, retain all your buffs, and get the highest rewards at the end of the campaign. Have fun playing.
I hit 9th place on NA Wabbajack for the same amount as my 4000+ ranked guildees.0 -
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cigarsmoker✭✭✭You get whatever buffs are in your home campaign, they carry over into a guest campaign.
That's the mechanics of it, simple as that."900 years of Time and Space and I've never met anyone who was unimportant" - The 9th incarnation of The Doctor0
