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Crystal Fragments Question

Amsel_McKay
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I just started playing PVP again last night and noticed on my death recaps that the spell "Crystal Fragments" shows pairs of hits every time for the same damage. Is this a UI error or does that spell hit twice for the same damage?

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  • crislevin
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    probably UI bug, otherwise, you should be dead by the last crystal frag, unless you have 3336+ health.
  • Amsel_McKay
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    I got a heal in before the second set hit me so I was not sure. I figured it was a UI error, it was happening all night I have pairs of Crystal fragment attacks for the same damage (the one above was the most damaging and why I posted it).
  • crislevin
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    you know, when I think about it again, all the damage description in the tooltips are quite "definitive". e.g., "634 damage", etc.

    so what happens when two non-crit crystal shard actually hit you, it seems they should indeed have exactly same damage?

    interesting, anybody knows?
  • Thunderchief
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    You start with a crystal fragments. Cast an instant buff. Your hands turn purple. You instacast your second crystal.

    2 spells should land fairly close together if you get lucky. 35% chance.
  • Amsel_McKay
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    You start with a crystal fragments. Cast an instant buff. Your hands turn purple. You instacast your second crystal.

    2 spells should land fairly close together if you get lucky. 35% chance.

    I understand that, but I did not see one single hit at all in PVP... unless people are just that lucky!

    Here is another one:

    recap2.jpg
  • Thunderchief
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    Maybe I should start using it more often then :wink:
  • Ragekniv
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    I'm assuming you're getting hit by the instant cast ability but I don't play a sorc. Hopefully a sorc can provide clarification for you.

    Crystal Fragments I


    Cast Time 1.3 seconds

    Target Enemy

    Range 28 meters

    Cost 53 Magicka

    Deals 32 Magic Damage to target and knocks down for 2 seconds. 35% chance to make your next use an instant cast and cost 50% less when activating ability with a Magicka cost.

    New Effect:
    Chance to make ability instant cast.
  • Amsel_McKay
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    I wonder if the "35% chance to make your next use an instant cast" can be boosted or something because of my 6 death recaps with CF all are in pairs
  • AlexDougherty
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    Ragekniv wrote: »
    I'm assuming you're getting hit by the instant cast ability but I don't play a sorc. Hopefully a sorc can provide clarification for you.

    Crystal Fragments I


    Cast Time 1.3 seconds

    Target Enemy

    Range 28 meters

    Cost 53 Magicka

    Deals 32 Magic Damage to target and knocks down for 2 seconds. 35% chance to make your next use an instant cast and cost 50% less when activating ability with a Magicka cost.

    New Effect:
    Chance to make ability instant cast.

    That just gives it a chance of being an instacast, not a certainty, I think there must be a buff ability that makes it a guaranteed instacast, but not come across it yet.
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  • Amsel_McKay
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    Ragekniv wrote: »
    I'm assuming you're getting hit by the instant cast ability but I don't play a sorc. Hopefully a sorc can provide clarification for you.

    Crystal Fragments I


    Cast Time 1.3 seconds

    Target Enemy

    Range 28 meters

    Cost 53 Magicka

    Deals 32 Magic Damage to target and knocks down for 2 seconds. 35% chance to make your next use an instant cast and cost 50% less when activating ability with a Magicka cost.

    New Effect:
    Chance to make ability instant cast.

    That just gives it a chance of being an instacast, not a certainty, I think there must be a buff ability that makes it a guaranteed instacast, but not come across it yet.

    I could just be unlucky... I dont play a sorc so now I know it is part of the spell... I really need to find a way to counter it in PvP though because that one spell single handedly killed me in 90% of my deaths (with the other 10% being oils ;) )
  • drackonir
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    If you are DK use Reflective plate, let those sorcs kill themselves ;)
    "Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
    Sotha Sil
  • Amsel_McKay
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    drackonir wrote: »
    If you are DK use Reflective plate, let those sorcs kill themselves ;)

    I'm a healing Templar ;) I like to heal and keep others up. I'm going to try and up my magic resists on a set of armor and see if it reduces the damage
  • drackonir
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    drackonir wrote: »
    If you are DK use Reflective plate, let those sorcs kill themselves ;)

    I'm a healing Templar ;) I like to heal and keep others up. I'm going to try and up my magic resists on a set of armor and see if it reduces the damage

    use skills from armour trees?
    "Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
    Sotha Sil
  • AlexDougherty
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    Ragekniv wrote: »
    I'm assuming you're getting hit by the instant cast ability but I don't play a sorc. Hopefully a sorc can provide clarification for you.

    Crystal Fragments I


    Cast Time 1.3 seconds

    Target Enemy

    Range 28 meters

    Cost 53 Magicka

    Deals 32 Magic Damage to target and knocks down for 2 seconds. 35% chance to make your next use an instant cast and cost 50% less when activating ability with a Magicka cost.

    New Effect:
    Chance to make ability instant cast.

    That just gives it a chance of being an instacast, not a certainty, I think there must be a buff ability that makes it a guaranteed instacast, but not come across it yet.

    I could just be unlucky... I dont play a sorc so now I know it is part of the spell... I really need to find a way to counter it in PvP though because that one spell single handedly killed me in 90% of my deaths (with the other 10% being oils ;) )
    it says "35% chance to make your next use an instant cast and cost 50% less when activating ability with a magicka cost" on elderscrollsonlinewiki

    But it might have a synergy with another skill line, like light armour, I can't find anything that will increase the odds, but there might be one.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • ShADoW0s
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    Its a 35% chance of insta cast on any spell, so what the sorc is probably doing is Crystal Frags -> Cast another instant spell -> animation cancel -> Crystal Frags again. You need luck but its procs alot, BE can trigger it, healing can trigger it Daedric curse can trigger it, you have to watch for the glowing hands. Also you cannot increase the proc chance (to my knowledge), its fixed number.
  • ZDavis_ESQ
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    drackonir wrote: »
    If you are DK use Reflective plate, let those sorcs kill themselves ;)

    I'm a healing Templar..


    Eclipse would like a word with you.
  • Amsel_McKay
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    ZDavis_ESQ wrote: »
    drackonir wrote: »
    If you are DK use Reflective plate, let those sorcs kill themselves ;)

    I'm a healing Templar..


    Eclipse would like a word with you.

    ? What is Eclipse?
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