Do you consider ESO a next gen MMO?

korkibucek

I've been playing some other recently released MMOs and they make ESO feel 15years old in terms of game design.

Gern_Verkheart

Yes

Yes, only because of the megaserver system.

david271749

"Next gen"? What does next "next gen" really mean? Seems to be another advertising ploy.

Loco_Mofo

Yeah, give us an example of a next gen MMO plz

Mablung

No

People voted yes? Wow, I am surprised. Have no clue what next gen MMO is.

KhajitFurTrader

Are there too many meaningless polls?

[x] Yes

PS: Not tyring to troll, but the very least thing you could have done, @korkibucek‌, is to explain what you think the term "next gen" means to you in regard to MMOs. "Next gen" in itself means nothing, except that it's just being (ab)used as a marketing ploy.

bambi52sigb16_ESO

No

Not even close, all concepts have been done before in many other MMO's the only difference is the setting

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

No

korkibucek wrote: »

I've been playing some other recently released MMOs and they make ESO feel 15years old in terms of game design.

Such as?

And no, ESO isn't remotely a 'next gen' MMO, nor is hype-of-the-moment WIldstar either.

Gern_Verkheart wrote: »

Yes, only because of the megaserver system.

I'd suggest GW1 beat ZOS by years, the regional servers were clearly comparable to the mega-servers and you could freely move your character between them, not like here.

Also, I don't play EVE but isn't there just one 'universe' there?

Uviryth

Yes

Whats a NextGen-mmo? An mmo catered to the lazy controllerusing PS4-consumer? Then yes, it most definitely is.

Catches_the_Sun

Yes

I don't know what "next-gen" is. It's not from the future, but it certainly is modern & has the same modern-era MMO spoonfed players to go along with it.

renaud.moyneb16_ESO

No

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

I don't know what "next-gen" is. It's not from the future, but it certainly is modern & has the same modern-era MMO spoonfed players to go along with it.

free targeting MMOs have been out there for a while... ESO isn't serious about it...

It's nothing next gen... it's even allready outdated ! so 2004 !

Crumpy

No

Does "Next Gen" just mean new or should it also mean better?

'Cos if it's the latter then it's a big fat 'No'.

Enkil

If by next-gen you mean it won't be balanced, bug-free and polished until the next generation of players comes along... Yes

Phantorang

Mablung wrote: »

People voted yes? Wow, I am surprised. Have no clue what next gen MMO is.

Enlighten us

Morticielle

No

[snip] UI, no auction house. This is no 'NextGen', this is "Last Gen'.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Crisscross

No

Imo it comes very close, but still no cigar. Too much clinging to traditional systems for the sake of catering to a perceived "MMO crowd" (linear zone progression, classes, etc)

Blackwidow

No

It's a past generaton MMO.

It does not have dueling, AHs, underwater swimming, a law system, a real open world, housing, guild bank options, a functional bank system, etc.

It would at minimum need to have basic GUI options to be considered a modern MMO.

Mablung

No

Phantorang wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

People voted yes? Wow, I am surprised. Have no clue what next gen MMO is.

Enlighten us

Enlighten you? How do you propose I do that if I am not sure what a next gen mmo is? I am surprised that people 'know' what one is. Is that enlightening enough?

Ragekniv

No

Very little in this game deviates from previous MMOs game design.

About the only example I can think of is overpaid voice overs!

Ninnghizhidda

No

No idea at all what a "next gen MMO" is supposed to mean, sorry.

As for ESO, I would not classify it as such, even if we could agree on what that elusive term means.

What it tries to do is open the unique and much liked world / environment of the Elder Scroll series to a wider audience by making it "multi-player" (although most of the time it still feels "single-player").

Personally I believe it is a good attempt and in that aspect has been fairly successful. The sad thing is, it could have been a lot more successful. If it had not messed up in several key areas. And if the very irritating problems were addressed (and acknowledged) much faster (because they should be a life-or-death priority). Enter... ridiculous VR content / difficulty that is very unappealing to many players, and, yes, terribly biased "class / build selection" (if there is such a thing really).

Granted, it is still the "early days" and many people have patience. But not for too long. And by the way, most people voicing concerns, are not doom mongers. They would love to see ESO being super successful and fulfill all its promises. But... no one is willing to wait a few more months or more to start seeing results and actually enjoy the game fully, the way it was hyped and with all the key features it promised to deliver.

steveb16_ESO46

No

Apart from the phase tech (which turns out to be a very bad thing) and improved graphics this is a very basic MMO that could have come out in 2004 without drawing much attention.

Blackwidow

No

Hell ya, Wildstar is next gen! It has so many features, it's crazy!

What? Oh ESO?

ROFLMAO!

No.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

No

Enkil wrote: »

If by next-gen you mean it won't be balanced, bug-free and polished until the next generation of players comes along... Yes

So WOW, to name but one, is 'next gen' then .. not unlike EQ2 in some repects.

Silly monikers are silly.

Swordguy

No

theres nothing next gen about this game. Mega server tech was done years ago by TSW, and done more competently from the get go. Grouping tools suck. no LFG/LFT. No Global AH. Pay2Play Business Model. Graphically outdated (although art direction and lighting effects are up to date). ad naseum.

The only thing next gen about this MMO, is that it released in an "Early Access" state, which seems to be all the rage these days with next gen.

Preachan

No

Don't know what may be next gen about it.
It's an MMO, ok, fine.
It has not the most actice combat system, it has a class system, it doesn't allow players from different factions to quest together,... nah, not quite the game which screams "innovation!" at me.

(I like it, but it's not feeling like Next Gen, New, Innovation)

steveb16_ESO46

No

I guess a lot depends on what next-gen means.

For me, in no particular order and in relation to ESO it means:

1. Great graphics and an engine that fully utilises the power of modern tech. ESO graphics are pretty fine but the engine in no way utilises the power of my 64 bit quad core, 16GB RAM rig.
2. An evolving, changing world. ESO swings and misses spectacularly for the simple reason they have allowed it to over-ride grouping to such an extent as it has. It should not matter what level or what stage of the story people are on if they want to group.
3. Built to prevent botting and exploiting from the ground up. I need make no comment here.
4. Enhanced support for sociability from guilds to grouping. ESO doesn't swing and miss here, it just sits there on the bench refusing to play.
5. Breadth of game-play. Nope. Crafting was interesting but limited in scope. PvP is effectively gated through the unpleasant VR grind.
6. Full RP support. Goes out of its way not to support it with phasing, no speech or name plates etc.
7. flexibility of gameplay and character. Great from 1-50 then throws the whole concept under the bus once you hit VR.
8. Great customer and support service. Hah.
9. Quality of initial release (which was one of the things promised). Instead we were given yet another example of the abysmal standards of the industry, compounded by some pretty awful patching issues.

But despite all this it is for me a great game up until VR. Had a lot of fun and will get my money's worth by the time my 6 month sub lasts.

I'm disappointed because I was expecting a lot more. I was hoping for the quality, breadth and depth that would keep me here for years like LOTRO did.

Instead it turned out to be like Neverwinter - a fun little game for awhile but too little of the good stuff and too much of the bad stuff.

But I live in hope it'll claw it's way to greatness eventually and if it does I'll be back unless I've found something better.

martinhpb16_ESO

No

Crisscross wrote: »

Imo it comes very close, but still no cigar. Too much clinging to traditional systems for the sake of catering to a perceived "MMO crowd" (linear zone progression, classes, etc)

MMO crowd playing an MMO, how dare they !

Tannakaobi

No

It's meant to be... but looking at what's to come in the next couple of years, no. That said, ESO is an mmo so it all depends on what come next in ESO, but when you compare it graphically to the 'next gen' games to come.... well it's lacking.







but, gaming is all about the game play, so it's not a problem if it doesn't look like a next gen game it it plays like one. So far.... VR need I say more..

Loco_Mofo

Awwww man, that new E3 trailer for The Division... Think I jizzed in my pants.

Blackwidow

No

Tannakaobi wrote: »

I have to say, seeing how robust and alive the city is in that video actually brought a tear to my eyes.

So beautiful....

zeuseason

Yes

'Other' recently released games making ESO feel 15 years old? You MUST have some serious mental gaming capacity issues. ESO is the most next gen MMO to date.

For instance, Wildstar is a recently released game that uses tech from the early 2k's and is WoW's code almost verbatim. WoW is not next gen by any means.