Disappointed I can't RP a pro-slavery dunmer

xanikk999

Every quest involving argonians has to involve being respectful and approve of their independence and equality within the pact.

I wanted to RP a dunmer who thinks argonians are nothing more than filthy animals and chattel.

It feels wrong trying to work with the argonians on friendly terms. The quests dont give me ANY options to treat them like gutter trash or backstab them.

This makes me sad.

Spectrasoul

Whilst I don't agree with your opinion on Argonians, I do agree there is not really much chance to do the 'evil' thing. I mean sure there are a few, just rarely.

nick-buckleyb16_ESO

I fully support this thread.

Kiash

Tis indeed unfortunate. Argonians, bleh.

Jim_McMasterub17_ESO

Have you played through Stonefalls? House Dres continues to control the majority of slave trade throughout the pact.

While enslaving pact allies is against the moritum as it now stands, house Dres (Krakenmoor) makes it quite clear that they will not be changing their enstaunched viewpoints anytime too soon.

Many Argonians & such remianed 'servants' there because of familiarity & other bonds.

Sorry for the history lesson; but in all reality you can RP anything you like.

The specific thing you are complaining about; I believe you have misunderstood.

Nukeyak

And you can get salmonella from petting an Argonian, at least thats what I heard.

BBSooner

My AD dunmer sacrifices the khajit every chance he gets when somebody has to ' take one for the team'. If they aren't working my families kwama mine they are expendable!

Bler

Seems like ZOS did everything it could to make this game as politically correct as possible. Kinda annoying seeing as how this is a fantasy game.

zgrssd

I do tend to play one evil and one good character per side. I have no specific opinion on slavery of Argonians but it would be nice if they would allow pro-slavery options in this regard.
If I can choose to enslave dead ghosts for your causes (EP and DC storylines), you should be able to enslave living argonians.

Of course that does require a lot of extra text and synchron voices in 3 different langauges. So it is a rather costly and time intensive change they would have to make.

Aeaeren

Bler wrote: »

Seems like ZOS did everything it could to make this game as politically correct as possible. Kinda annoying seeing as how this is a fantasy game.

Sad things is EVERYTHING is becoming PC now.

Dagoth_Rac

Oh yeah, Zenimax really want the horrible PR of being known as the MMO where you can be a slave trader. I'm sure they'll get right on this. I think they have to finish the genocide content first, though.

GreySix

Well, Khajiit slavery is still legal during this time-frame, right?

indytims_ESO

You can RP anyway you like - with other players. But NPCs are built within the restraints that limit all NPCs: limited options (that usually have the same result). There's no way that NPCs could be made to handle every single possible option that players would throw at them or like them to include.

Soloeus

1. You want to play as something so disgusting it shouldn't be respected.
2. You can still ROLEPLAY as that. Nothing to stop you.
3. No, the game mechanic doesn't support it but...

The game doesn't have mechanics for...

1. One of the last snow elves.
2. Maormer.
3. Aakvari.
4. Tsaesci.
5. A Follower of Camoran Usurper.


So like all roleplayers you will just have to find another path. Maybe a friend with an argonian will be "your slave" or something. But you can still pretend you are one.

Asawasa

they have a quest in shadowfen where u can force a runaway slave back to her master or set her free. she is a breton i believe but yeah not much for profiteering in the virtual slave business in this game.

maybe if they implemented some kind of karma system into elder scrolls games they would be able to do give you more evil gameplay options.

xanikk999

Soloeus wrote: »

1. You want to play as something so disgusting it shouldn't be respected.
2. You can still ROLEPLAY as that. Nothing to stop you.
3. No, the game mechanic doesn't support it but...

The game doesn't have mechanics for...

1. One of the last snow elves.
2. Maormer.
3. Aakvari.
4. Tsaesci.
5. A Follower of Camoran Usurper.


So like all roleplayers you will just have to find another path. Maybe a friend with an argonian will be "your slave" or something. But you can still pretend you are one.

Are you sure about everything you mentioned?

Early in the fighters guild quest you fight dosha whos true form if anything is the first appearence of a Tsaeci in an elder scrolls game. Snake humanoid? check.

Dosha must be a tsaeci.

kirnmalidus

First of all, if you want to see the Argonian's remaining in their proper place, just join the Dominion and quit messing around with those fools in the Pact. We plan to ensure those filthy lizard beasts stay where they belong.

And to whoever mentioned the Camoran Usurper, if I catch any followers of that stain in game I'll rip off their head and throw it to some Argonians.

Vorkk8383

You can RP a racist all you want. There are still a ton of people who make negative comments about argonians even if they are free now.

As one of the sexy lizards, I know you're all just jealous of how often I erect things!

xanikk999

kirnmalidus wrote: »

First of all, if you want to see the Argonian's remaining in their proper place, just join the Dominion and quit messing around with those fools in the Pact. We plan to ensure those filthy lizard beasts stay where they belong.

And to whoever mentioned the Camoran Usurper, if I catch any followers of that stain in game I'll rip off their head and throw it to some Argonians.

I don't like the thalmor/aldmeri dominion and never will. Bunch of hypocrits who are butt hurt men are more powerful then them.

GreySix

xanikk999 wrote: »

I don't like the thalmor/aldmeri dominion and never will. Bunch of hypocrits who are butt hurt men are more powerful then them.

... and yet in the last TES release, they'd managed to defeat the Empire.

BBSooner

GreySix wrote: »

xanikk999 wrote: »

I don't like the thalmor/aldmeri dominion and never will. Bunch of hypocrits who are butt hurt men are more powerful then them.

... and yet in the last TES release, they'd managed to defeat the Empire.

... After the oblivion crisis was stemmed by the Septim Dynasty and a Daedric Prince took a joyride around the white gold tower.

kirnmalidus

xanikk999 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

First of all, if you want to see the Argonian's remaining in their proper place, just join the Dominion and quit messing around with those fools in the Pact. We plan to ensure those filthy lizard beasts stay where they belong.

And to whoever mentioned the Camoran Usurper, if I catch any followers of that stain in game I'll rip off their head and throw it to some Argonians.

I don't like the thalmor/aldmeri dominion and never will. Bunch of hypocrits who are butt hurt men are more powerful then them.

That may be true of the Altmer, but not us Bosmer. And don't worry, the Bosmer are going to Beastmode (literally) on the Altmer and wipe them out after they help us kick you nedics off of Tamriel.

xanikk999

GreySix wrote: »

xanikk999 wrote: »

I don't like the thalmor/aldmeri dominion and never will. Bunch of hypocrits who are butt hurt men are more powerful then them.

... and yet in the last TES release, they'd managed to defeat the Empire.

Actually the war was a stalemate.

Thank the weak emperor for submitting to the white gold concordat. If they didn't sign that treaty they would have been on equal terms.

Case in point: Hammerfell redguards kicked their butts when they tried to invade and pushed them back. They were just as weakaned as the empire.

GreySix

Hey, don't make me take your Talos statues out of your land!

Lywen

I don't exactly want the same play style as the poster, however... It /would/ be nice to have more than one option in the quests. Perhaps a sarcastic response or more negative, versus the usual. They have a lot of other things to fix, so maybe later on down the road... But I think it'd enhance the game to have more dialog options. And help with replay value, to see different NPC responses.

Lynnessa

Aeaeren wrote: »

Bler wrote: »

Seems like ZOS did everything it could to make this game as politically correct as possible. Kinda annoying seeing as how this is a fantasy game.

Sad things is EVERYTHING is becoming PC now.

Everything that's mass marketed, anyway. There are still niche markets out there that cater to particular cultural perspectives.

UrQuan

GreySix wrote: »

Hey, don't make me take your Talos statues out of your land!

Um, Talos doesn't exist yet...

GreySix

Ur-Quan wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Hey, don't make me take your Talos statues out of your land!

Um, Talos doesn't exist yet...

... shows just how effective we were.

Talos never was, nor will he ever be.

BBSooner

GreySix wrote: »

Ur-Quan wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Hey, don't make me take your Talos statues out of your land!

Um, Talos doesn't exist yet...

... shows just how effective we were.

Talos never was, nor will he ever be.

And yet, so momentous that the Tiber Septim part of Talos changed Cyrodil from jungle to grasslands so definitely that it changed the landscape even before he was born.

Oberstein

Game needs some merchant to sell us some elf slaves to clean my dusty villa.

ZOS_RikardD

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