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This hurts NB Crit builds
Xnemesis
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•Reduced the ultimate gain on all critical strikes to 1 from 3.
One of the few reliable ways to gain ult for NB is nerfed
One of the few reliable ways to gain ult for NB is nerfed
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Innocente✭✭✭✭Ya, because NB were so OP as it was.
I am starting to think that Z/B wants this game to die.3 -
Xnemesis✭✭✭✭Makes me feel like we take 1 step forward then 2 steps back.... don't mind me just gonna grab my staff and dress and get back to the grind.1
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Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's a global nerf, both my nb and dk are going to be hurt badly by this change... Particularly concerned as to resource generation with battle roar in Raids with critical giving the same as normal hits for ultimate now. My nb will also feel the pain but he isn't dependent on ultimate as much.-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sometimes you wish they would write WHY they do something.
It was the defining ability of NBs in medium armor to have high crit rate and this hurt us crit builds somewhat.
I wonder if they even know this and maybe made this nerf because AoE spam generated too much ultimate and they hadn't though that it was nerfing a hurting character concept?Edited by nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO on June 2, 2014 2:41PM1 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't Nerf NB's anymore then any other class, What it does nerf is pretty much everyone who doesn't rely on AoE to do damage. Before ya say "But my NB does single target damage" I say..No your NB spec does....NB has multiple ways to build Ult via AoE.
Anyone who's relying on Single Target damage got shafted though.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Xnemesis✭✭✭✭Yeah its a global nerf for sure but this is just one more reason not to wear med armor for the crit passives1
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭We do get a awesome new buff to catalyst. We all know that the ineffectiveness of catalyst was at the root of all NB problems.
/superfacepalm
Their approach to balance does seem to be hitting a nail with a sledgehammer it seems.
The only thing that may help is the crits from Veil of BladesEdited by PBpsy on June 2, 2014 2:45PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)4 -
Xnemesis✭✭✭✭We do get a awesome new buff to catalyst. We all know that the ineffectiveness of catalyst was at the root of all NB problems.
Their approach to balance does seem to be hitting a nail with a sledgehammer it seems.
Yeah now I can get great crit rating from pots so I generate enough ult to use it more than once every 5 min.... oh wait3 -
nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Anyone who's relying on Single Target damage got shafted though.
And the game really really REALLY needed to nerf AoE and buff single target combat, and as usual with this dev team like in all earlier games they have had their hands on they do the opposite of what the game needs.
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✭✭✭✭✭So basically, Biting Jabs will now have a global cooldown, cost more magicka, and generate far less Ultimate. That's a relief. I was tired of Templars having such great resource management. :-\7 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ok just after 2 mins of play I can say that the buff to Veil of Blades is quite strong.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »So basically, Biting Jabs will now have a global cooldown, cost more magicka, and generate far less Ultimate. That's a relief. I was tired of Templars having such great resource management. :-\
Every ability in the game has a global cooldown associated with it. Nothing unique there now that they changed the timer back to normal for that skill.-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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Hodorius✭✭✭Oh no!
Everyone knows that NBs are the only class that is able to crit and do aoe dmg so it´s a pure NB nerf...0 -
digital_illusionSoul Shrivennikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »Sometimes you wish they would write WHY they do something.
It was the defining ability of NBs in medium armor to have high crit rate and this hurt us crit builds somewhat.
I wonder if they even know this and maybe made this nerf because AoE spam generated too much ultimate and they hadn't though that it was nerfing a hurting character concept?
I'm thinking the same, just another meat cleaver to neurosurgery decision.
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Anyone can get a lot of crit. Go for certain sets, take thief mundas, weapon trait, Skill morphs, etc. The "Dk that solos(ed?) everything" probably had about 40% crit chance if not more.
I actually wasn't even aware crits gave more ultimate than normal strikes. I wouldn't have thought that needs to be a bonus of crit builds, but its already been nerfed...Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on June 2, 2014 3:22PM1 -
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Every single DK/Sorc/Templar build out there that's worth anything has high crit.
Hell with a 5 Heavy/2 light setup i sport 30% spell crit, 40% if I turn on Flames of Oblivion.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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99% of sorcs are crit builds, because they have to be for their "crit surge" skill that all sorcs run
I have to give a credit to AD pack of Vampires with VR10 Night Mistress leading them (seriously VR10 10 days after the official release?).
Night Mistress - v12 Former Empress Sorcerer AD
Night Mistress II - v12 Night Blade AD1 -
Clunan✭✭✭I'm pretty sure this affects my Sorc build more so than a NB build, I run around with about 53% spell crit, WITHOUT Thief stone, don't see anyway a NB gets hurt more from this than me.
BUT on the same note, I'm not complaining, I don't rely on my ults, prolly a bad move on my part, but I normally hoard them for the O !!!! moments. So, maybe it does hurt them as they can ONLY rely on ults to do anything? OoEdited by Clunan on June 2, 2014 3:30PM1 -
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✭✭I'm pretty sure this affects my Sorc build more so than a NB build, I run around with about 53% spell crit, WITHOUT Thief stone, don't see anyway a NB gets hurt more from this than me.
BUT on the same note, I'm not complaining, I don't rely on my ults, prolly a bad move on my part, but I normally hoard them for the O !!!! moments. So, maybe it does hurt them as they can ONLY rely on ults to do anything? Oo
Yeah Sorc is the most dependent on crits of all the classes as it is our primary in combat self healing.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points1 -
I m happy and I agree with this nef but doesn t change anything, all can build ultimate fast simple spamming aoe heals out of combat, pvp is broken.1 -
Kililin✭✭✭✭I am sure they dont play this game and only do theory crafting designing.
Therefore such things are easily overlooked.
AE Spam will still generate ultimate faster, but in reality it hurts other builds way more...1 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
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Spell Crit since it is a spell. I have ~40% so it crits a lot.
I am not sure if those crits generate 1 ultimate though probably yes. Sap essence+transfer still remains a good ultimate builder.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
Bhakura✭✭✭✭So ... the only viable way of making an NB is crit build?
meanwhile in vet content roflstomping solo with 0 crit focus ...1 -
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Spell Crit since it is a spell. I have ~40% so it crits a lot.
I am not sure if those crits generate 1 ultimate though probably yes. Sap essence+transfer still remains a good ultimate builder.
That's what I was hoping, but than this "fix" doesn't help the people that were struggling in the first place... the stamina builds with weapon crit.
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Those were kind of doomed a long time ago. "Stamina builds" what a silly little concept.
Spell Crit since it is a spell. I have ~40% so it crits a lot.
I am not sure if those crits generate 1 ultimate though probably yes. Sap essence+transfer still remains a good ultimate builder.
That's what I was hoping, but than this "fix" doesn't help the people that were struggling in the first place... the stamina builds with weapon crit.
The best physical crit skill we have is surprise attack which is still based on magicka but is to slow to generate any ultimate. The DW WW could be used an aoe crit ultimate generator but that skill doesn't offer any sustain for life or magicka.
Edited by PBpsy on June 2, 2014 4:03PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)2
