I only read part of this thread, but what I did read is the reason I don't do dungeons, even though I'd like to. I feel like I have 2 options: do good dps or have fun. I see no way I can do both.

The reason for this is that I find it way too stressful to do all the things required to "get gud". Farming for multiple sets, the right glyphs, the right food, using skills I don't find fun, learning rotations, and dealing with elitist attitudes. These things suck all the fun out of the game for me, and I play to have fun.

ForeverJenn wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ForeverJenn wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ForeverJenn wrote: »

@Raideen

I'm not sure why you are finding the need to be sarcastic or rude. I haven't insulted you. I called myself a potato DPS for pulling 18k. I'm sorry your dps isn't where you want it to be. Maybe try the players helping players forum. I am asking about ppl who do 3k dmg. Not 18k.

To be completely honest, its because I don't believe that you pull 18k without trying. Calling yourself a potato for pulling 18k insinuates anyone who pull less is..well whatever is worse than a potato.

I say that because my friends and guildies are pulling 40-60k dps. I pull 18k not knowing what I'm doing. But I also know I don't have the wiring in my brain to dos. This is why I tank and heal. All I'm saying is that if me, who can pull 18k as a clueless person, can pull 18k, I don't understand how 3k is possible from ppl that high level. It has nothing to do with insulting you. Maybe you're like me and are better suited to heal and tank. Please don't get offended, it's far from my intention.

I don't understand the 60k dps stuff. I have never seen it done.

I have to ask. In ESO when someone refers to pulling "60k" DPS does that mean a peak number, or sustained?

On a boss. Example 50k dps in a 2 minute fight. 60k is on the higher end. 80k is achievable by like 1%

I am going to have to go with exploits then. I don't see any way, shape or form that someone can sustain that kind of DPS without using an exploit.

Are you talking about trials or vet dungeons?

Atherakhia wrote: »

There is absolutely NOTHING a player does while playing this game that teaches them what animation cancelling is or how to light attack weave. To the uninformed, they could easily assume the few times they do it by accident to be nothing but lag. However, the single greatest contributor to a person's DPS is light attack weaving. Light attack weaving nothing but their spammable and light attacks will yield you, conservatively, 20k DPS. Why do you think animation cancelling and light attack weaving is such a polarizing topic? It's unintuitive, inconsistent, and poorly implemented and yet players are expected to pick it up exclusively by word of mouth. Do something about light attack weaving and animation cancelling and you'd probably find inexperienced players are able to contribute more to a group.

Your post hits the nail on the head and pretty much answers every debate or question in this thread.

When the game started being balanced around light attack weaving, is when the combat took a downturn for the worst.

I PHYSICALLY can not light attack weave. I have tried over and over, I guess for years now. I get it to happen occasionally by accident, but I cant reproduce it even in the slightest. And because of this broken exploit/turned feature, I can not consume content I pay for, I am constantly ridiculed by elitist players, its turned much of what is fun in the game into an unfun chore. In fact I come and go in ESO because I get drawn in by a new expac or event, then get quickly reminded why I quit the last time, and its always the same tired issues.

The only way I am able to progress anymore is by being proactive and "kiss the butt" of the group I am with if they are pulling more DPS than me by telling them how amazing their DPS is, in hopes that in doing so, I don't get kicked for trying my butt off.

ForeverJenn wrote: »

@Raideen

I'm not sure why you are finding the need to be sarcastic or rude. I haven't insulted you. I called myself a potato DPS for pulling 18k. I'm sorry your dps isn't where you want it to be. Maybe try the players helping players forum. I am asking about ppl who do 3k dmg. Not 18k.

To be completely honest, its because I don't believe that you pull 18k without trying. Calling yourself a potato for pulling 18k insinuates anyone who pull less is..well whatever is worse than a potato.

I watched my Gf tonight at the target dummy try to get over 12k on multiple toons and it completely bummed her out because she uses textbook builds by alcast including gear (except for monster helms because vets intimidate her and rightfully so. WE both have been at the receiving end of some extreme elitism in this game). She is trying extremely hard to pull better numbers, and its just not happening.

I just find it...odd and coincidental that someone can try extremely hard and not pull more than 10k, and yet someone like you, a self admitted potato can mosey on along and pull 18k without even trying.

Something is not adding up, but knowing her builds and watching her try her butt off tells me that "something not adding up" is more rooted in some BS commentary than reality.

The other one is Withered Tree Inn Venison Pot Roast.

Before Bewitched Sugar Skulls, Withered Tree Inn Venison Pot Roast was my favorite tri-stat food because it is alphabetically listed last which made it easy to find in a hurry during that second when you realize that you are out of food and in a fight.

Bewitched Sugar Skulls is fast food as well which makes me happy.

Ysbriel wrote: »

How did they now you were a woman?

Please read the question again thank you.

ForeverJenn wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

You can level all the way up without ever having set foot in a dungeon or trial, or ever having learned proper DPS rotations. There is no tutorial on how to DPS properly. You pretty much have to watch YT videos and read fan sites to figure it out - and even then, after you learn, it takes practice from that point.

I was one of those people. And even after practice and reading how-to's, I could never get my DPS anywhere remotely OK. So I gave up and rolled a tank.

I don't have the brain wiring to DPS which is why I heal and tank. I'm just baffled because a potato like me can pull 18k without knowing a damn thing about rotation. That's why I'm so confused how people so high can pull less than 5k.

Quite odd, because people like me who DO want to dps and actively try to do so, can BARELY sustain 18k.

I can only attribute this to your god hood. /s