idk wrote: »

Report them as you have done, and get SS of their comments. They are idiots but they are also trolls so do not respond to them in any way as that just feeds and energizes them.

In reality, with the stronger stance about harassment, Zos has recently taken those players that spout racist, sexist, and other intolerant and derogatory comments should be banned.

Thank you. I could not bring myself to say anything as it would have turned on me and upset je even more. I understand how trolls work so best thing i could do was report them and then make sure this issue gets looked at. I know zos dont tolerate this kind of bad behaviour.

Most important: Do not feed the trolls. Do not respond to a troll. Do not argue, or try to derail or troll back. Report them if they are breaking terms of service. Disciplinary actions - if any - are not your concern.

Trolls exist because too many people just can not pass a starving troll without giving them a snack of attention. It may be hard, but breathe deep, count to 10 and do not feed a troll.

There's just one problem with this. If this current test was to be implemented, the only viable way to PvP would be to ball group. Not all of us have the time or energy to play this way and there is a lot of solo players who like to be the ad-hoc support/healer during sieges etc.

If cross healing is indeed the problem, why not make it so you can't receive the same heal more than once? We've all seen organised group streams and how they have 12 rapid regens stacked on their buff bars at all times. It's a bit silly.

Another thing would be dots and procs. If you're already affected by Hunter Venom proc, you shouldn't be able to receive another one until current runs out or you cleanse. Just the other day i got chased by a zerg and received 17 procs of Venomous Smite in 1 (ONE) second! The game couldn't keep up, so I was completely locked out of any skills, which is understandable. Receiving 34000 damage per second would not be survivable by any means regardless but it just shows, that the game can't keep up (on server I was obviously registered as deceased but in game I was still alive, until I was disconnected).

ZOS needs to consider their next move carefully.

@ForeverJenn , I'd like a bit more context from your original post. Because no matter how you look at it, 5-8k Group dps is extremely low and I've never actually seen that. I always saw 10k+ group dps.

What was the dungeon? normal or vet? dlc or base game?

There are cases where combat metrics show "wrong" info, because if some mob get stuck somewhere (behind a wall or under the ground etc, happens more often than not) they won't lose aggro on you and you get stuck in combat for a long time.
This messes up the combat metrics fight report because the addon computes dps by taking all the dmg dealt and dividing it by fight time. So you will start seeing very low dps numbers compared to what you'd see normally because "stuck in combat" situation makes the addon consider a very long time period as the "fight time". (This happens to me all the time in blackheart haven dungeon, damn harpies ignoring physics)

novemberhhh wrote: »

Well since pvp cp and slimecraw are "cheese" to some heres more or less the same thing with actual pve cp.

Didn't say it was cheese. Just didn't see the point of such a parse.

novemberhhh wrote: »

Had to self ele drain as well since its early here and no one on the friends list is on, rip. So I didn't actually go afk this time.

Wait, so do you usually have someone else draining the dummy?

novemberhhh wrote: »

edit: To clarify, the point is that hitting practically zero dps is certainly a "put on actual dps gear, and dont be afk 98% of the time" issue.

Thank you very much! Now I get your point. I do agree that not attacking is why some people do extremely low dps. I watch DDs closely when I see super low group dps, some people don't attack the boss half of the time. They are just moving around and occasionally doing a light attack or two. Most just move around too much and have very mismatched weapons. Like 2 hander on 1 bar and the lightning staff on the other.

Also, here's an "afk parse" (holding down attack button and doing absolutely nothing else) from a stamplar,


Max CP (properly allocated for a stamplar in pve), best gear (Selene + Deadly + Perfected Relequen) all fully upgraded and with best traits. And yet it's 34% less dps than an "afk parse" done by a double pet sorc using easy to obtain gear...

novemberhhh wrote: »

Well since pvp cp and slimecraw are "cheese" to some heres more or less the same thing with actual pve cp.
17k this time (~+2k dps over the last)

Had to self ele drain as well since its early here and no one on the friends list is on, rip. So I didn't actually go afk this time.
Gear was still new moon (craftable), mother's sorrow (overland/buyable), and zaan since yes, healers should provide minor berserk

pve cp for those wondering:


and yes, a coffee cup could still hold down lmb as well as i could (but again, it's early so its still in use)

edit: To clarify, the point is that hitting practically zero dps is certainly a "put on actual dps gear, and dont be afk 98% of the time" issue.

Honestly, genuinly dont understand what you think you are proving with such parses. I think I have rebutted matters enough in my other comments. But, I mean, Zaan, a set completely and utterly out of reach for the vast majority of average, casual gamers, who are literally the folk were talking about here. Geez.

Back in the day, stamina morphs for class abilities were very rare and the relatively large number of stamina weapons made up for it. As ZoS has added stamina abilities and morphs to classes, the relative number of stamina and magicka weapons has made less sense.

novemberhhh wrote: »

Players do that little dmg by just wearing random junk and being afk 90% of the time, and cant be bothered to put on any reasonable gear despite playing for hundreds if not thousands of hours apparantly. So of course the idea of using buffs, dots, and a spammable in any sort of pattern is way outside what they're willing to do.

But just for fun, heres a parse from my sorc with the left mouse button held down while i actually went afk...

If you pull less dps, congrats you just got outparsed by an inanimate object (my coffee mug handle, to be specific).

edit: typos

These kinds of gimmick parse posts are misleading

If you are a high CP player, with correctly allocated CP to buff you, wearing powerful meta sets, with optimised traits and enchants, correct mundas etc, yes you can achieve this kind of result. Ive done it myself out of interest.

But the average, casual player, the ones who are doing 5k, 10k, 15k dps etc, they often dont have anything like the additional buffs/power from CP you are benefitting from. Heavy attacks alone can be buffed by what, 25+% with CP? They are generally not wearing among the most powerful DPS sets in the game, like you are. They are wearing trash. Not to mention the traits and enchants that you will have optimised, not to mention the purple/gold gear you will be using... all things the average, casual player is unlikely to have anywhere near to the same standard or degree.

novemberhhh wrote: »

except that an inanimate object literally just did 15k dps

And a stamplar can do 70k+ on raid dummy by spamming a single skill and nothing else. Can any other class do that? Is that what you can expect from any DD build? Tell you what, do your "inanimate object" dps test using something other than a double pet magSorc.

novemberhhh wrote: »

btw tanks will debuff targets (bosses especially) to the 18.2k pen soft cap, its kinda why they wear alkosh...

I guess you assume I'm one of those clueless DDs with absurdly low dps hence the need to clue me in about penetration. All I asked was what's the point of showing an "afk parse" when you used a character that was well suited for a heavy attack spam parse.