Double posting, but throughout today I thought about the pro’s and con’s of a new class, and the con is literally balancing.. pro’s are: a big incentive for new players/returning players, more playtime for current players instead of a skill line (look at Psijic/Vamp vs Warden/Necro), more in-depth character building instead of a skill-line, and lastly but most importantly, its a new dynamic to the world of ESO. I’m a prodominent PvPer, and when Necro came out, I was not only excited to play them, learning about the skill set but also to fight them, it’s just fun battling a new class. You had to think of the major defile, their tankiness, the fact they have a source of Major Vun, but their lack of innate damage etc. With a new skill line, you wouldn't get this.. psijic and vamp imo added very little to the game - the updates were great dont get me wrong, but neither of those skill lines are really used, or when/if they are, they’re support mainly.

I’m a massive advocate for a new class. A skill line would add very little to the game going by Psijic/Vampire, yet a class would add a whole new experience to explore and implement a whole new dynamic to the world of ESO.

daemondamian wrote: »

What Ult/s did you use?

Precognition ftw.

Spent 20 minutes at gate of Kvatch arena almost spamming zone chat for arena quest share. I counted 3 boss kills and 15 players run upstairs across all 3 kills to complete quest with NPC above.

Would be nice if both quests were made available to players, because it would seem, based on tonight's evidence and the last few weeks, that much of the playerbase don't know how to share a quest or couldn't be bothered to do so. #feelsbadman

I did get the quest for 4th kill, but it shouldn't have taken so long.

@ wishlist14 please ignore all of these trolls telling you “that’s how the game is”. The point is it needs to stop. You are doing the right thing by reporting them and bringing it up on the forums, and honestly you are so brave for doing it ❤️

No. But it will become a grand library.

Khazek wrote: »

This might sound strange and come as a surprise but some people are good players and some people are bad players. Like any other activity on planet earth.

Yes, but if you join as a group it's your responsibility to at least be semi-able to help the group. If I (DD) get grouped with another DD whose DPS isn't great, I am usually able to carry and really do not care or judge. But there are some fights with DPS checks (Zaan and Valkyn Skoria come to mind) where I may not be able to do so.

That said, I can imagine that many players likely don't *know* how well they're doing/not doing and what they're contributing to group DPS. When I first started playing I was doing 2.5k DPS at CP 220 or so. I didn't know about addons, rotations, gear, and helpful CP allocation. As long as the other DD in my group had semi-decent DPS, I didn't know that I was pulling such low DPS because the enemies were dying regardless. I had mismatched, poorly-traited gear, no monster helm, and I think I had all of my CP in Physical Weapons Expert, but I never light attacked, so it didn't really help. I don't think I even had a Mundus stone.

The bottom line is that the game does a shoddy job of teaching these things. Weapon damage vs. spell damage vs. physical penetration vs. spell critical etc. etc. How light attacks are calculated. Layering DoTs and using a spammable. When and why to use certain Mundus stones and gear traits; I could go on for a very long time. It all seems rather inconsequential when you see it for the first time (a glyph adds 174 weapon damage? That seems small and what does it even mean?). Even now, ZOS never seems to explain this, and it seems like it's generally up to the player base to figure this out on their own.

I think that if the only experiences that you have that show you that you're not doing great involve other players telling you you're awful, you're less likely to want to get good because it seems so elitist. I remember hitting 12kish and pugging a vet Darkshade II, not realizing that it's got some soft DPS checks. The tank got mad and insulted the crap out of us (the other DD didn't pull great DPS either, so the Netch fight was especially brutal), and all it did was put me on the defensive. While I tend to be team "it seems literally impossible to have your DPS that low" here -not in a disparaging way, I just cannot actually fathom that it's possible- I can see where many people here are coming from.

I like to help people as much as possible, so if you're PC/NA and you need anything at all -gear, potions, vet dungeon runs, food, help with your rotation- please feel free to message me here or in-game (@AeiaTheHuntress, yes that's an i in Aeia). @Raideen I would love to help you and your GF get monster sets and to help her out with DPS in a "safe" setting. I'll bring another guildie to the dungeons so there are no randos and no potential for any sort of judgment- we don't allow that sort of toxic elitism. Dunno what spec your GF uses (mag vs. stam), but either way, even a semi-decent monster set will boost her DPS enormously.

Agreed entirely
- Talk about it
- Report it
- Make it clear it's not acceptable

I would disagree that everyone doing it is a troll - many of them will have been brought up in an environment where sexism and racism are acceptable or sadly even the norm. and who've had no actual parental role model of decent human behaviour or anyone to teach them what is inappropriate.

Reverb wrote: »

It’s interesting how some new zones hold people’s interest and others don’t. Vvardenfell and Summerset are both still busy all the time. Partially for crafting convenience sure, but that’s not the only factor. Rimmen is pretty dead despite having great crafting layout, and Wrothgar is always busy despite having an abysmal crafting layout. Surely not everyone there is farming Briarheart all the time, so what’s the draw?

And dlc zones, Gold Coast and Hews Bane both have a good number of players every time I’m there. Both in the cities and in the Thieves Den and Sanctuary. Why do those zones still draw people but murkmire, cwc, and southern elsweyr don’t?

Skyrim is probably a little dead right now because people are burnt out after the event. But it’s also not somewhere I see many people spending much time in long term.

Just my perspective - but Summerset and Vvardenfell are really well laid out for crafters and alts. If I need to cycle through my characters, it's really easy to park them there to grab my dailies and horse upgrades. In general, those zones have great music, scenery, and memories.

I've always found Rimmen's crafting station hard to navigate, sure it's all in one place but there's so much clutter around them. Elsweyr is still a good zone though, with loads of character and an almost Indiana Jones feel to it.

Wrothgar is fun too - the feel of it is so epic but it's not hard to get around. They nailed the cold, northern vibe really well on this. It's fun to don some cold weather outfits and head up there for some hunting.

It looks like the least popular zones are the small zone DLCs.

• Hew's Bane and Gold Coast support good motif farming and dailies for the outlaws of ESO. They'll never be dead because of that.
• Murkmire I learned to love, that zone surprised me. The flora is unique, there's some cool achievement collectibles too.
• CWC is cool but feels very sterile in general. The motifs and dailies are cool though, but nothing long-term there for a larger number of players.

I think there's a few things a zone needs to be lively long term

• Fun, repeatable content unique to that zone. Dolmens and Geysers are a good example.
• Being tied to a specific playstyle - ie thievery, assassination, vampires, werewolves.
• Exciting achievement collectibles. Look at Rivenspire, Summerset, Riften, Morrowind, and Orsinium. Having just banners, a doll, and some twigs isn't really worth the effort.
• Easy crafting layout with few obstructions. Players are looking to do their dailies quickly and each expansion should support that.
• Smartly placed wayshrines. Keep em near the main attractions or give us something to offset difficult terrain, like Siltstriders.

I just think in general WS and BR weren't something a lot of people wanted, at least not in the way they gave us. It wasn't the best launch at the best time. If they had somehow made the zone the Hew's Bane for Vampires and Werewolves, that might have cemented it more.