Alot of times bad group is to blame for bad dps. If support doesn't do their job or the other dps needs rezing all the time then group dps will plummet. Individually the dps maybe able to parse decent numbers but in group content and with mechs to deal with you can't expect the same results. Many tanks and healers have only played support role and sometimes don't understand dps. I'm not sure what dungeons people in this thread are talking about but in vet dlc ones you cant expect any great dps numbers with pugs if even 1 player is mediocre or new to that dungeon.

Great example of "low dps" from today's pledge vCoS HM last boss. It's one of the easiest dlc dungeon and I can parse 80k on dummy. But from tanks perspective I'm trash. Tank only taunted the boss, adds running all over. Healer always died to mechs or aoe idk in less than 10 sec. Then the other dps died. I'm bringing adds close to tank so he can grab them but no he doesn't. So I'm trying to rez others while being attacked buy adds and dodging aoes. I get 1 rezed and before I get the other, the 1st one dies again. Between rezes I manage to apply few dots on boss but the tank is doing most of the dps lol. Few times I died myself while trying to rez others. Eventually we got it done and group dps was 14k and I did 10 of it. And now the tank is probably complaining in this thread lol.
With the right group I can do trifecta runs back to back. I've helped many people get their skin. The whole group working together is the key for vet dlcs. If 1 is bad at their role then things go south quick. I'm not saying that all the support roles complaining in this thread are bad but ask yourself if you have created "safe environment" for the dps to do dmg before calling them out. Dps can't do much dmg if they only have to rolldodge attacks and spam self heals.

Ps I could have let others stay dead and dps the boss but if we wiped then I've been blamed for that before and even kicked.

Just take a quick glance at the excavation mini game and you'll understand what the "litterbox simulator" is.

I don't think the issue is with sexy women in videogames. It's when female characters are only given sexy options to wear. (Which isn't the case at all in ESO btw). And males are given 0 sexy options to wear.
Sexy females are okay, non sexy females are okay, sexy males are okay and non sexy males are okay too. But when some games only make sexy females and unsexy males. It does feel of sexism. And it's directly taking away options from people too.
I personally do like non sexy females because I think it's a much less used trope in games and media, and I like my sexy males because it's eye candy and also not very used trope in media, unless it's for laughs, or to be weird.
In tera most female armor is sexualized and most male armor is not, which is an issue IMO, for example.
As for this costume, hmm not my cup of tea, I don't like the flap as usual, and the jacket is too short. I would make the jacket longer and remove the flap. Now it looks like a slutty child boy scout version of a vampire outfit.

Now that Litter Box Simulator event is over, can you implement Bosmer stealth detect to work in Antiquities at the very very very least? That passive is not useful And actually detrimental for pvp. and, as you yourselves pointed out during the change, there are no crouched mobs to detect in pve. This at least will be a consolation prize however minor.

I know someone is going to come in and say there are stealth mobs in pve — no. These mobs are revealed by proximity And damage like aoes, or they are using a special move that includes the “spell” invisibility and while they are “invisible” there are small yellow sparks coming from their position to indicate you should block. There are absolutely no mobs in the entire game that use crouch to stealth, which is what the Bosmer passive pertains to. And no, having inner light on your bar for the passive doesn’t count because you have to actually cast it to reveal stealth enemies and it doesn’t work in pve. You may believe it does, it doesn’t.

MirandaSharp wrote: »

I love doing the daily random, but the only choice I get is between random normal or random vet. Fine, most vet dungeons are a walk in the park, except for the DLC vet dungeons where you have to know every tiny detail of the mechanics. There are a few DLC vet dungeons where I know every mechanic there is(because I farmed sets there), but in general DLC vet are not just something you can jump into for a daily, no matter how good you are(ok, there may be exceptions). As a tank I end up with generally clueless pugs hoping to finish a "vet" dungeon, not knowing it's a DLC vet dungeon(oh, god please help!)... Can we please separate random normal, random vet, and random DLC vet??

Yeah, I think they should make them separate too.

Under the current system: all the random daily does is put a lot of people who aren't actually interested in doing Veteran DLC dungeons into Veteran DLC dungeons - which helps no one. It doesn't even help the players who are actually wanting to do them. Because what usually happens is the group gets populated without a lot of players who don't want to be there in the first place: so they are more likely drop the second something goes wrong. That or they just drop right at the beginning (which is also common).

It also makes sense from a design perspective: since the difficulty shifts between the two are dramatic. Builds that are effective in the regular Veteran Dungeons may not be in the DLC content. So it's not just about the more complicated mechanics. It's just the plain fact it's harder content. Enemies do way more damage are are more difficult to kill.

If they had a third option for random DLC - with a better reward - I think that would improve the system.

ForeverJenn wrote: »

[With dps that low, I'm led to believe they aren't even playing. That's why I'm asking HOW is dps that low and suggesting they're bots.

I've only seen bots in overland farming materials, on rare cases I see them in public dungeons. I've never seen bots in group dungeons. I don't think it's possible to do less than 3-4k dps on single target as a DD if you search about how to do dps in ESO. Only a very clueless person can go that low, or someone with physical problems or it could even be someone looking to get carried. This stuff is to be expected in normal content, because someone starting out the DD role might not know that in-game support/tutorial for learning how to do proper dps is practically non-existent. They might not realize that they have to refer to outside sources to learn how to do dps in this game.

I've been playing this game for 3 years now and I spent the first 1.5 years tanking, I loved it. But then I wanted to try the DD role so I made a magSorc and a stamblade DD. By this time I was already close to max CP, but my dps was pretty disappointing (according to combat metrics addon most of the time my dps was around ~20% group dps, don't remember exact numbers but it was real bad. I remember how ashamed I was). I tried out a lot of different sets and skills but it didn't improve that much. Then I talked to some experienced DDs in my social guild (I was so ready to go back and stick with the tank role), they gave me a lot of advice. Only then I realized I need to refer to outside sources in order to understand how dps and combat mechanics work in this game (not stuff like basic combat maneuvers like block, dodge but stuff like how your stats affect your dmg and how to optimize your own rotation, I hadn't even heard about light attack weaving before). I've been playing for almost 2 years and was max CP when I finally learned how to be a proper DD. Now my dps is pretty good.

novemberhhh wrote: »

But yea my tank also pulls about 4k dps (mostly from lightning blockade and alkosh procs), so dps roles expecting a vet hardmode trial tank (whose primary job is to hold aggro/stack adds/buff group/debuff 100-300 million hp bosses) to dps carry them isnt really realistic in eso...

100% agree on this. @ForeverJenn If you want keep pugging dungeons as a tank in normal content, there's no way you can avoid running into abysmal dps groups. So I suggest you keep 2 different setups on your tank. 1 setup is the true tank setup (whatever you are currently running). The other setup is a dps-tank hyrbid setup. You can switch between the two setups according the performance of the random groups you encounter (Dressing Room addon will allow you swap setups with the single click of a button). Easiest way to do a dps-hybrid setup is to use proc sets, so you don't need DD skills.
Here's a setup I used a long time ago (should still work nice, a bit better even, now that proc chances are removed from most sets)

• Infernal Guardian monster set
• Thunderbug's Carapace set
• Storm Knight's Plate

Base game monster set and two heavy armor (so you will still be quite tanky) overland sets, should be super easy / cheap to get.

Make sure to have your blue CPs adjusted for elemental damage, spell penetration and direct damage attacks. You won't have to worry about other DPS stats (like crits and weapon/spell dmg) as proc sets aren't affected by them. All you need to do is to stack the mobs and use a dmg shield ability. (especially chain in the ranged ones, you don't wanna watch your flaming mortar shells launching at one lone archer in the distance). Then just watch your proc sets do the dmg for you. It's a pretty fun way to tank.