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Re: How is DPS this low on CP 500+ toons?
This might sound strange and come as a surprise but some people are good players and some people are bad players. Like any other activity on planet earth.
Yes, but if you join as a group it's your responsibility to at least be semi-able to help the group. If I (DD) get grouped with another DD whose DPS isn't great, I am usually able to carry and really do not care or judge. But there are some fights with DPS checks (Zaan and Valkyn Skoria come to mind) where I may not be able to do so.
That said, I can imagine that many players likely don't *know* how well they're doing/not doing and what they're contributing to group DPS. When I first started playing I was doing 2.5k DPS at CP 220 or so. I didn't know about addons, rotations, gear, and helpful CP allocation. As long as the other DD in my group had semi-decent DPS, I didn't know that I was pulling such low DPS because the enemies were dying regardless. I had mismatched, poorly-traited gear, no monster helm, and I think I had all of my CP in Physical Weapons Expert, but I never light attacked, so it didn't really help. I don't think I even had a Mundus stone.
The bottom line is that the game does a shoddy job of teaching these things. Weapon damage vs. spell damage vs. physical penetration vs. spell critical etc. etc. How light attacks are calculated. Layering DoTs and using a spammable. When and why to use certain Mundus stones and gear traits; I could go on for a very long time. It all seems rather inconsequential when you see it for the first time (a glyph adds 174 weapon damage? That seems small and what does it even mean?). Even now, ZOS never seems to explain this, and it seems like it's generally up to the player base to figure this out on their own.
I think that if the only experiences that you have that show you that you're not doing great involve other players telling you you're awful, you're less likely to want to get good because it seems so elitist. I remember hitting 12kish and pugging a vet Darkshade II, not realizing that it's got some soft DPS checks. The tank got mad and insulted the crap out of us (the other DD didn't pull great DPS either, so the Netch fight was especially brutal), and all it did was put me on the defensive. While I tend to be team "it seems literally impossible to have your DPS that low" here -not in a disparaging way, I just cannot actually fathom that it's possible- I can see where many people here are coming from.
I like to help people as much as possible, so if you're PC/NA and you need anything at all -gear, potions, vet dungeon runs, food, help with your rotation- please feel free to message me here or in-game (@AeiaTheHuntress, yes that's an i in Aeia). @Raideen I would love to help you and your GF get monster sets and to help her out with DPS in a "safe" setting. I'll bring another guildie to the dungeons so there are no randos and no potential for any sort of judgment- we don't allow that sort of toxic elitism. Dunno what spec your GF uses (mag vs. stam), but either way, even a semi-decent monster set will boost her DPS enormously.
Re: 1vX - How? (PvP)
Artorias24 wrote: »The idea of 1 vs X is very simple:
1) You never fight with those, who play beter than you.
2) You look for good players in enemy group, and run from them.
Wait when some new players try to strike you and try to one shot them. Always run from good players and kill weak first.
Than try to kill good one 1 on 1, or run, untill friends come to help to outnumber him.
1 vs X is not that 1 kill X good fighters.
In reality it is impossible to fight against 2 good players if you are alone.
3) So we have 1 - 2 good players and 3-4 weak as example.
There are skills that heal more or strike more if they hit a lot of targets, you use them. So you charge your heal and damage with this 4 weak players, and always run.
Weak players will try to controll you, so it will be hard for good one make one shot combo, they can not stun you, when they need it.
4) Newer fight in field, always run near some stone, wall, tree 🎄 and etc.
About sets:
You get 1 protective set, that heals or regens you, and 1 proc set, that makes your attack do a lot of dps in small window.
It is hard to kill you, because you are fat, you regen when you run.
And when your dps window is ready, you try to kill enemy with ultimate as examle in this small window. Than run again.
I am not 1 vs X
Just as example, my build heals 4 k hp per second.
I do not use one shot combo, but i can do 5-7 k dps in standing target.
So if it will be 2 like me, we kill enemy in 2 - 3seconds (1 dethink = dead) It is not possible to fight 2 players like that
If you run, we can not do dps, so you heal more than we dps.
If you run near some stone asexample, we get lugs - so we can not hit you.
We try to use attack, server or ping is not perfect, so attack do not land, you run, we can not hit, becouse skills do not work. You get full HP, and try to one shot us.
If you do it is ok.
If you do not, run again.
Some builds is impossible to kill 1 on 1, so you run, untill you outnumber them
A lot of players will not run near stone (they know how, but they will not).
So they choose to die, not run vs X isabout to kill new players, not some good group.
The only one 1 vs X that can kill group is Mana bomber.
They use low level players to acamulate dps.
As example:
Group 6 players, 2 are good and 4 with low level.
You use sets that give you dps in small window as example:
Mechanikal Accuty, balorgh, some + to crit or dps and vicious death set.
You are in full dps mode and buffs.
In 5 seconds all your attacks are crits and do 1,5 dps of base.
Mana bomb that will hit 1 player in normal condition will do:
2 k damage, with all buffs and proc sets active 4 k damage.
With 5 more people 8 k damage.
You use it + ultimate (damage+ stun)+ some hard hitting strike.
24 k dps in me. But a lot of players are not as tanky.
And for them it will be 30 k as example.
If he die near me he deals me damage as example 5k. If 2 low level players die, 10 k dps from them will kill me.
So all 6 peoples are dead.
Low level players like to stuck on players, that they think are strong.
It makes them feel save.
So you kill the stronger one with them
The setslike this are: Azur blight, Vicious death, Dragonstar 2 handed and etc.
Kinda feels you hate players that 1vX.
I do not hate 1 vs X.
I really like bombers as example.
But i really do not like to run 30 minutes by one dude. If i will not be outnumbered I even may be kill him, but it is really not funny for me.
I see no honor in play like this.
A lot of 1 vs X is just like: i will run from you untill you go away, i only will try to kill low level players. If i see good one, i will run away for years.
I like when 2 big groups fight each other. When you do not run. Kill or be killed.
Protect some thing. I really do not like to run
I better die 20 times but kill some one with honor, then run and kill players with low level.
I even do not attack first those who are weaker than me. I feel my self uncomfortable if i do
Re: We are not the reason for lags
FatherDelve wrote: »RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »I am going to have to disagree with the title of the post. The problem is that the players are grouping up in groups of 30+ to zerg the map. The more players with skills and armor sets, the more calculations that is being made by the server and thus more lag. ZOS is on the right track with the group size limit in the last two weeks of the testing but it does NOT go far enough. When we have guilds bragging about getting 70+ players into one zerg, it is causing the problem. ZOS can fix the problem by limiting the AP earned by the players based on the size of the group they are using for PVP. But for some reason, ZOS is not listening. All that needs to be done is zero out the AP if there is more than a certain number of players on one side of the battle. ZOS supposedly knows how many players are in what battle. If you pvdoor Dragonclaw with maybe 2 or three defenders with 30 players, then you should not be gaining AP. It is player vs player, not player vs zerg.
Something else, ZOS, please look at the server populations. (I know the answer to this next question already). But, do you have one server that is nearly always poplocked during prime time while other servers have little to no populations? If so, that means that is the rules set that people want to play. (Here is a huge hint: Grayhost). Perhaps maybe open a second server with the very same rules set as the most populated server even if you have to close a less popular server to do it. It was shown at the last MYM that even if it is not the top server in the list that it was the most popular server. So it is not the position on the list that caused the popularity. It is the ruleset. If we have two identical rules on two different campaigns, maybe, just maybe, the population would spread out to the different campaigns and the performance of the servers would improve.
It is NOT the 30 man /lfg zerg causing the issues, it is the on 5m multiple aoe spamming, perma purging safespace pvp group, that drags a) alot of aoes into and onto them and b) alot of aoes themselves, that is causing this *** night over night over night. A small part of the population is destroying the performance for everyone else, if its solos, smallscales or even /lfg zergbois.
And yes, fixing the server or upgrading or whatever you need to fix that would be a great solution. But we know that wont happen, so this AOE Changes need to happen.
All those same ball groups were fighting each other in IC last week just fine with no lag. The difference is you didn't have 70 people stacking in IC to take out the ball groups.
Make it so that fights end and the lag ends, by introducing rez sickness, killing camps or remove rezzing. Endless fights just build more lag. When too many people are in the same location everyone coming into that render area will crash. When fights never end because of endless rez's and camps this builds up lag.
Break Cyro up into instance sections like IC is. There is no reason that a faction stack fight at BRK should lag out fights at Ash.
Re: Why Guilds, Why 810?
If you want "Guild Skills" and "Guild Quests" I can point you to the Mage's Guild, The Fighter's Guild, The Thieves Guild, The Dark Brotherhood, The Psijic Order and The Undaunted.
Re: Game kick me 7 time in less than 15 min this morning
You'd think you would've moved out of the way after the 2nd or 3rd time.
Re: What NPC do you like?
I loved to hate General Tanval Indoril from Stonefalls as an ally. He was so arrogantly certain that he was doing the right thing while my Vestige was like "Hold up, using necromancy ancestral worship to unleash a volcano is generally what the bad guys do..."
I really enjoyed getting to know Valsirenn and Iachesis from Summerset. Valsirenn is older and has experienced loss that deeply effected her, yet she handles it much more maturely than most of ESO's characters with similar backstories. Likewise, Iachesis was a refreshing subversion of the "wise old mentor" and a notable contrast to the attitude of his two most famous students: Mannimarco and Venus Galerion.
There are other characters I liked. Eveli's bubbly naivete was a fantastic foil for my older, bitter Vestige in Orsinium. Aranias finding fulfillment as the Wilderqueen instead of the Veiled Heritance. Queen Marsha holding the Covenant together in the background. I could go on and on.
But those are the ones who made the biggest difference in my characters' stories.
I really enjoyed getting to know Valsirenn and Iachesis from Summerset. Valsirenn is older and has experienced loss that deeply effected her, yet she handles it much more maturely than most of ESO's characters with similar backstories. Likewise, Iachesis was a refreshing subversion of the "wise old mentor" and a notable contrast to the attitude of his two most famous students: Mannimarco and Venus Galerion.
There are other characters I liked. Eveli's bubbly naivete was a fantastic foil for my older, bitter Vestige in Orsinium. Aranias finding fulfillment as the Wilderqueen instead of the Veiled Heritance. Queen Marsha holding the Covenant together in the background. I could go on and on.
But those are the ones who made the biggest difference in my characters' stories.
Re: Cross healing maybe be one of several contributoring factors to lag in Cyrodiil.
Fengrush killed me once. It was awesome.
He killed me too, but it was very laggy at the time, Probably because of all of the cross healing.
Re: Dark Passions Regalia Flap
What's ironic is, one of my vet trial/dungeon stam dps chars is a pantsless build, [ 5-piece Perfected Lok w helm, half a monster Velidreth pauldron for + weap dam, Maelstrom bow back, 5-piece AY front dual wield dagger axe) and nobody gets triggered or loses their minds from it. It's way skimpier that the costume and uses plain outfit pages lol. It was more of a proof of concept than anything,, cuz I had a perf lok helm drop lol, though it does vet content no prob.
Only one time ever in a trial once, someone said "lol that elf has no pants on" that's it, and that's all. We can seriously handle a game without nonstop added flaps and nobody will lose their minds haha.
Only one time ever in a trial once, someone said "lol that elf has no pants on" that's it, and that's all. We can seriously handle a game without nonstop added flaps and nobody will lose their minds haha.
