FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Trials people will debate on it....but dragons, lava vents, roaming bosses, gsyers there's no reason why there isn't one

@FeedbackOnly

There used to be a party finder according to my guildmates. It permitted finding groups for doing content in a given zone and for grouping in Cyrodiil. They told me it was not used so after a few years it was removed.

I just did some searching and found an article from long ago with the image I have linked below showing there was the ability to form groups for doing world (zone) content. So my guildmate's comments seem spot on.

i think a grouping tool like that would be much more beneficial now than before

the very early game the only "big group" thing realistically was cyrodiil (and then IC after the first year), it was almost 2 years into the game before we got the first trials (craglorn)

now there are a lot more options for larger groups outside of cyro such as dragons and harrowstorms which would benefit from something like what is in the screenshot (i think the UI would need to be updated to fit the current game but that seems to be basically exactly what the OP is looking for)

Going on 7 years playing ESO. I have never seen one for PvE zone. There was a pvp one though that was way broken

Also if one existed then it highly likely broken. The group finder in early years was truly not functioning often.

Mixalis966 wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

1. No because it would add load to the severs and the biggest thing Zenimax can do is reduce that load so we get to experience decent game performance. This is the reason it is not likely to get consideration at this time as Zenimax has expressed they will be extremely cautious about adding new systems until performance is improved.

2. It is not needed. We have five guild slots. It may take some searching but finding at least one good active guild for getting into groups and forming them. There are active raiding guilds, RP guilds, and more to reach everyone's interest. I kissed a few frogs until I found the guild I enjoy the most and it has paid off as I get much more out of the game there than I could with random strangers. This is something I suggest everyone do until they find the guild that meets their wants and needs in the game.

Good luck. I do not care one way or another, outside of the performance of the game, but just do not see a need for it.

I do not have any intetion of arguing with you or turn this thread into an argument and risk getting it closed again but since you pointed out some things i would like to answer.

1)How much load would it add to the server exactly ?I suppose you have the technical background to lead you to the conclusion that it would affect the "decent" game performance to the point that they cannot add such a feature(even though most mmos have something similar).

2)When you say it is not needed it is your personal opinion and it is respected.I could argue it is something much needed but this was the point of the poll.We talked extensively in other posts why having guilds doesn't help much for availability and visibility issues.You say " i kissed some frogs until i found the guild" and i would like to ask you if you think that every player has to go through such process till he can find a good team?Should this be the norm?

Amottica wrote: »

@FeedbackOnly
There used to be a party finder according to my guildmates. It permitted finding groups for doing content in a given zone and for grouping in Cyrodiil. They told me it was not used so after a few years it was removed.

I just did some searching and found an article from long ago with the image I have linked below showing there was the ability to form groups for doing world (zone) content. So my guildmate's comments seem spot on.

We are discussing something different than what you mentioned above but i suppose you posted that to answer a comment and not to what this poll is about.The above seems to function like the current dungeon finder but includes more content.It is obvious that in 2014 there was a lot less content than there is now and the playerbase was a lot smaller than now(roughly 2k peak players according to steam charts,dunno how many from other sources).

Please take a moment and think not only how you would face looking for group in ESO but also the rest of the community.Aren't new players discouraged by all this?ESO's competitors all offer a smoother experience in group finding.ESO for me has better lore,music,gameplay,dungeons,immersion,environents and many more i could go on but why should it stay behind in QoL upgrades such as this?

I do not say all this to spark any argument and see who is right and who is wrong,i rather identify where we agree/disagree and then the developers can take the feedback and decide how they want to move forward.

Cheers

Iron_Warrior wrote: »

We absolutely need a party finder. With dungeon finder you can't expect to randomly find a group that wants to do a trifecta. And guilds are not a real solution. Not everybody has the luxury of playing during prime time when the guilds are crowded. Different work scheludes and time zones exist. When i play the game there are very few people online in my guilds so i need to have access to all of the server if i want to form a group. This also can help folks to find trial groups instead of spamming craglorn chat.

Tandor wrote: »

Not without being told first what they would remove from the game in order to accommodate the data storage involved.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think this is fair given what happened with AWA. I wouldn't be surprised if a new party finder replaced the activity finder, for example.

renne wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

I'd lean towards no at this point.

My experience with improved grouping functions is that they tend to produce worse behavior and can ram into issues with population distribution.

I'm not sure the lack of a party finder tool is causing enough of an issues to merit ramming into those issues.

Maybe in some individual categories it might be worth consideration but, overall is likely pushing it.

You also can run into issues of timing when you implement a system post launch.

The primary people that will be hopping into a party finder tool at this point are people that are having troubles finding parties under the current structure of the game. You'll likely find in some cases that is happening for a reason.

What's the harm in a group finder for dragons? Most of us can't solo them but a couple more people would make North Elseweyr dragons actually be fought more ...

I play on the most dead time zone pupulation-wise (east coast Australia) on NA on Playstation (EU is WAY more busy in my evenings as it's morning over in the EU, but NA is more stable and where my friends play, so...) and never had any problems with getting a couple people together for fighting dragons when I was farming them for the achievements earlier this year.

I found if I started one people would turn up, if somehow I needed a few more a single call out in zone chat and I got the help. It certainly wasn't a thing I found you'd need a whole new group finder system for.

A couple of times I even put in the chat I was doing the quest and if anyone wanted to group up to x up and got groups that way. Probably out of the whole achievement run I had maybe three dragons that took a looooong time because it was me and a group of adorable, trying very hard to help and not die to wing slaps bless their souls, baby toons. And even that wasn't a bother because it was fun playing with them & keeping them alive.

So no, I don't think it's needed, as this stuff can be done through zone chat, BUT that said I can see why people would like it and I don't see the harm in it if they DID introduce it. I wouldn't care for it including bgs and dungeons tho, as they already have grouping tools, or trials because holy cow there's enough complaints about poor GF dungeon compositions, can you imagine with a trial finder situation?

On the other hand, grouping up a bunch of randoms to go and stomp all the world bosses in a zone, or go on a skyshard hunt, y'know, something like that that which would normally be organised in guilds or something but in this case could be just joined up by a bunch of randoms in the zone, that would fun and definitely be helpful for newer players/baby toons/people who don't have guilds or aren't able to do time-specific things, but could jump on a spontaneous group doing x thing in that zone.

renne wrote: »

So no, I don't think it's needed, as this stuff can be done through zone chat, BUT that said I can see why people would like it and I don't see the harm in it if they DID introduce it. I wouldn't care for it including bgs and dungeons tho, as they already have grouping tools, or trials because holy cow there's enough complaints about poor GF dungeon compositions, can you imagine with a trial finder situation?

Mixalis966 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

So no, I don't think it's needed, as this stuff can be done through zone chat, BUT that said I can see why people would like it and I don't see the harm in it if they DID introduce it. I wouldn't care for it including bgs and dungeons tho, as they already have grouping tools, or trials because holy cow there's enough complaints about poor GF dungeon compositions, can you imagine with a trial finder situation?

There is no reason to limit party finder into just one activity.It should exist so you can find people easier for any content,be it fishing,trials,trifecta,world events and anything you can think of.It will never be worse than groups formed via craglorn lfg because you can still request people to be exp and link achievement.I have so many achievements i want to do but i need to lfg and spam my guilds 24/7.The idea that we need to lfg in zones,especially new players should never have been accepted by the community.ESO players deserve a better lfg experience and our time should be respected and not wasted into loading screens between zones.