The imperial race a tank race for PvE?

Bayezid · April 2014

The racial abilities of the imperials:

- Tough - Increases Max Health by 4%. 3 ranks. 4/8/12%

- Conditioning - Increases Max Stamina by 4%. 3 ranks. 4/8/12%

- Red Diamond - Melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6 Health. 3 ranks

Out of all the races, the imperials have the highest racial bonus to health and stamina.

Both of these attributes are important for tanking especially when using a sword and shield.

Blocking with shield lasts longer with the higher stamina.

More health means you last longer.

Not trying to criticize the imperial race but do you agree that considering these racial bonuses they have, this makes them optimal for tanking especially in PvE?

Beerbong_Ginn · April 2014

That's one reason why I picked it

Nox_Aeterna · April 2014

From what i heard , you can max stats without the racial bonus , so it might be better to just get racials that cant be maxed , like crit dmg , you will tank the same , but crit more.

Atleast that is the theory , only someone v10 would be able to answer i guess.

Bayezid · April 2014

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

From what i heard , you can max stats without the racial bonus , so it might be better to just get racials that cant be maxed , like crit dmg , you will tank the same , but crit more.

Atleast that is the theory , only someone v10 would be able to answer i guess.

If this is true, then i will CRY.

Coz I chose imperial for that exact reason.

I hope by V10(Which no one should be able to reach atm) most of the stats are soft capped.

I hear the crit bonus mechanics given to some races is close to negligible. Only something like a 0.75% increase in crit chance in terms of mechanics. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Dammit, now i wish i chose a Dark Elf.

tjvannevel_ESO · April 2014

bump?

AngryNord · April 2014

Bayezid wrote: »

Not trying to criticize the imperial race but do you agree that considering these racial bonuses they have, this makes them optimal for tanking especially in PvE?

Yes. Redguards too but slightly less so.

Tadhg_Longhouse · April 2014

I don't think Imperials will have much of an advantage in tanking. The health and stamina boost they get will make them hit caps easier, but they still need armor and spell resistance to tank. They will just need to make up for this short coming with gear and enchants where possible. Seeing as armor can only have Health, Stamina or Magicka enchants, already being close to cap on two of these attributes probably isn't as useful as you think.

Malediktus · April 2014

I heared there is no health soft cap in PVE, anyone know if its true?

Axer · April 2014

There are no hard caps, nor soft caps in PVE.

There is very wrong misconception that there is a softcap.

There is a system of dimishing returns, known as the overcharge system. Calling it a softcap is imo inaccurate, as it doesn't match softcaps of other mmos.

At VR, when you hit about 2500 health, you start to get dimishing returns:
+100 health will only give you +50 health.
And it wll scale down further - tho haven't seen the drop go below about 20% return. I can get over 3300 health however in cyrodil ( the cyrodil +500 hp buff ignroes the overcharged system), so theres no cap. Just gets harder and harder.
In regular content I can manage 2750 hp. And I only do a 14/35 magicka/health split. Over 3k should be possible, tho probably not neccesary.

Re imperial racials, well servers down so cant double check but from memory (Guides out there are wrong):
4/7/10% health and stamina.
RED DIAMOND RED DIAMOND THE HEARTS AND SOULS OF MEN!

.. is truely awesome. It scales up very nicely as you level.
+6 health is like at level 0 with some kinda api pull. Think it starts at 8 at lvl1.

At VR7 it's giving me about 150 health per proc. (I have very strong gear that increases my incoming healing though).

So yes. Best tank race by far.

Pay to win.

Malediktus · May 2014

Does emperor health/stamina/magicka buff ignore diminishing returns?

Bayezid · May 2014

Malediktus wrote: »

Does emperor health/stamina/magicka buff ignore diminishing returns?

Yes it does. The cap for diminishing returns increases if your an emperor.

Axer wrote: »

There are no hard caps, nor soft caps in PVE.

There is very wrong misconception that there is a softcap.

There is a system of dimishing returns, known as the overcharge system. Calling it a softcap is imo inaccurate, as it doesn't match softcaps of other mmos.

At VR, when you hit about 2500 health, you start to get dimishing returns:
+100 health will only give you +50 health.
And it wll scale down further - tho haven't seen the drop go below about 20% return. I can get over 3300 health however in cyrodil ( the cyrodil +500 hp buff ignroes the overcharged system), so theres no cap. Just gets harder and harder.
In regular content I can manage 2750 hp. And I only do a 14/35 magicka/health split. Over 3k should be possible, tho probably not neccesary.

Re imperial racials, well servers down so cant double check but from memory (Guides out there are wrong):
4/7/10% health and stamina.
RED DIAMOND RED DIAMOND THE HEARTS AND SOULS OF MEN!

.. is truely awesome. It scales up very nicely as you level.
+6 health is like at level 0 with some kinda api pull. Think it starts at 8 at lvl1.

At VR7 it's giving me about 150 health per proc. (I have very strong gear that increases my incoming healing though).

So yes. Best tank race by far.

Pay to win.

How good is the Red Diamond ability anyway?

I mean it is a 10% chance that it will give you health for a hit so eeerm how often do you get health back everytime you strike the enemy with a melee attack?

Does the ability occur frequently?