Is This What the Game Has Come To?

abkam · October 10

We can find some topics about players leaving the game, and I often reply in those threads explaining why I believe it's happening and how the game is getting worse with each passing day. And now this. @******** set up a group finder for vLC, and I applied. Here's what happened next:

I wasn’t allowed to join, and honestly, I don’t even care about vLC in the group finder because I already have all the items.

I applied just to play the game… but I was denied simply because… I’m not an Arcanist!

I wonder how many times this will happen if we don’t have DPS sharing or addons like Hodor Reflexes. Will they start asking for logs in group finder?
ZoS overpower Arcanist to help with sales, and now we’re forced to play with it or R.I.P game. This doesn’t seem fair at all.

Hamish999 · October 10

I don't see the problem, It's their group and they can have whatever rules and/or group composition they want. Frustrating for you maybe, but 100% a non-issue.

abkam · October 10

Hamish999 wrote: »

I don't see the problem, It's their group and they can have whatever rules and/or group composition they want. Frustrating for you maybe, but 100% a non-issue.

Issue? Of course not.

In the meantime, I’m applying to something else... I logged out because Arcanists are bad

Time to go play something else. GG!

disky · October 10

Hamish999 wrote: »

I don't see the problem, It's their group and they can have whatever rules and/or group composition they want. Frustrating for you maybe, but 100% a non-issue.

The OP seems to be stating that if Arcanist is "needed" then there's an issue with class balance and/or the tools they have. In ESO a class is not a role, and as such, taking Arcanists shouldn't need to be required for anything in particular. I know certain classes are sometimes better at one thing or another, but seeing people fully deny other classes a spot in a group makes it seem like there might be a reason to look at Arcanist or the other classes and ask why it's happening.

You're right that it's their group and they can run it however they like, but I don't think that's really the point here.

Soarora · October 10

Did the group finder listing specify they need arcanists? Did they already have an MK sorc? Did they kick you or did you leave? We’re missing information.

colossalvoids · October 10

Soarora wrote: »

Did the group finder listing specify they need arcanists? Did they already have an MK sorc? Did they kick you or did you leave? We’re missing information.

From the SS they've accepted but wanted a possibility to swap to arcanist, OP just blocked out of a sudden. Enough context for me to draw some conclusions who's the issue there.

Artim_X · October 10

The person said "good, but we need arcanists?" You would have been permitted entry based on that comment, even though you were not the desired class.

Desiato · October 10

What ESO has come to? There has always been a meta and always been raid leads who conform to it like in most MMOs.

With that said, I've done a lot of vet trial gf pugs and the vast majority are completely relaxed about dps classes.

abkam · October 10

Soarora wrote: »

Did the group finder listing specify they need arcanists? Did they already have an MK sorc? Did they kick you or did you leave? We’re missing information.

Did the group finder listing specify that they need Arcanists? No.
Did they already have an MK Sorc? I don't know.
Did they kick you, or did you leave? He didn't allow me to join because I was a Sorcerer.

We’re missing information. I understand you. I miss this series—The Blacklist—and it's damn amazing!

spartaxoxo · October 10

It looks like you self selected yourself out of that group. The person whispering preferred to roll with an Arcanist but would have accepted your Sorc. You blocked them so they couldn't follow up

abkam · October 10

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It looks like you self selected yourself out of that group. The person whispering preferred to roll with an Arcanist but would have accepted your Sorc. You blocked them so they couldn't follow up

Yes, you’re correct. It’s all okay, and it was definitely my fault.

Blood_again · October 10

It is not about the game, but players.
I met the same attitude about 3 times among >40 recent vLC runs through GF.

It is not new.
I remember PUGs that required only Oakensorcs for vAS.
I also remember the 90k+ PUG requirement for vRG (the leader was a tank who instantly died on Oaxiltso, lol).

It is just silly that some leaders confuse PUG with progress group. But it is not a problem.
What irritates me is the fact that these people usually don't write their requirements in the group description.
As a result of their behaviour: I waist my time, they waist their time. It was supposed to save some time with this filtering, wasn't it?

abkam · October 10

colossalvoids wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Did the group finder listing specify they need arcanists? Did they already have an MK sorc? Did they kick you or did you leave? We’re missing information.

From the SS they've accepted but wanted a possibility to swap to arcanist, OP just blocked out of a sudden. Enough context for me to draw some conclusions who's the issue there.

I applied... I waited... and waited... and waited... and then time expired!
Then I sent the leader my HM achievements and asked him, "Is this not good for you? (after time expired and after I sent him the HM achievements)".
He replied, after time expired and after I sent him the achievements: "We need Arcanists."

Once again, I agree with all of you. This was 100% my fault because I logged in.

spartaxoxo · October 10

abkam wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Did the group finder listing specify they need arcanists? Did they already have an MK sorc? Did they kick you or did you leave? We’re missing information.

From the SS they've accepted but wanted a possibility to swap to arcanist, OP just blocked out of a sudden. Enough context for me to draw some conclusions who's the issue there.

I applied... I waited... and waited... and waited... and then time expired!

Then I sent the leader my HM achievements and asked him, "Is this not good for you? (after time expired and after I sent him the HM achievements)".

He replied, after time expired and after I sent him the achievements: "We need Arcanists."

Once again, I agree with all of you. This was 100% my fault because I logged in.

This is important context that the screenshot didn't show. I understand your issue now.

I can say I have never been refused a pug for DPS class. It this a widespread issue in activity finders? I have mostly seen picky groups compositions in guilds. Sorc does need a PvE buff imo.

Renato90085 · October 10

I don't know you mean is player bad or class balance
They alway want you play bis,because easy/safe/best
and GF alway have low dps/no buff tank/fake healer,so it why they only want arc
and why arc
All log have 50-80%arc and 20% other 6 class ,all role tier S+
and sorc is a st class so bad for aoe ,he know you are good but vlc all combat need aoe
This has been going on for over a year, and even longer before that, it was oaken sorc so maybe 2-3 year?
What wrong?

TheMajority · October 10

your attitude was hostile going "Not good for you?" I would have told you I wanted an arcanist instead too. you selected yourself out of that group by behaving in such a way when the lead was polite for you. nobody online owes you their time or entrance into a group and everything you are posting right now very clearly shows why others are saying no to you when grouping.

you are not respecting the boundaries of others who said no to you. accept no and move on.

OtarTheMad · October 10

I feel your pain. I have definitely been kicked out or not selected to groups based on some dumb reasons like: my dps while fine for the game is not good enough for them, not tanking good enough so they can finish the dungeon faster (which was all randoms so why try to accomplish this with randoms?) just because of the class I am on etc.

When that happens it sucks and it’s wrong but I feel like this time you just reacted too negatively too quickly. That player might have invited you, you don’t know. Maybe you have been rejected too much in the past and just did that, idk. I get it though but I think you probably would have been invited based on that screenshot.

OtarTheMad · October 10

I just saw your other post giving more context but it just does not seem to match up with the screen shots so I’m just confused. LoL.

I need more sleep.

ZOS_Hadeostry · October 10

Greetings,

As a reminder, quitting/goodbye threads are against the Community Rules. While we encourage the community to have open discussions, they need to remain respectful and constructive. While the purpose of this thread could have been about groups accepting members, it was more of a denigration of others.

We will be closing this thread. Thank you for your understanding, and please keep the Community Rules in mind when posting on the forums.