New Companions - Update 44

BlueRaven · September 10

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

WitchyKiki wrote: »

I'm just upset its behind the crown store. The DLC gets further stripped of its value.

What do you mean? I don’t think there is going to be a fourth quarter DLC, is there? The battleground updates are base game.

By DLC, I think they’re referring erroneously to Gold Road, which is still a “chapter” at this point. But yeah, the new companions will be locked behind the Crown Store and ESO+, and won’t be free for those of us who purchased the chapter. That’s the only thing I’m miffed about. I’ve wanted a non-annoying Khajiit companion for a while now… ah well, it’s mainly just cosmetic anyway.

Oh, if so, I mean, the companions already weren’t coming with the chapter, so being in the Crown store or not really has nothing to do with that. Personally, if some of the content needed to be moved to the 4th quarter for development, player engagement, or both, I’d rather it be the companions rather than making the chapter only half of a story as was done in previous years (2019-2022).

I think the issue boils down to in previous years the companions came with the chapter, now it’s an extra cost.

Aurielle · September 10

Araneae6537 wrote: »

WitchyKiki wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

WitchyKiki wrote: »

I'm just upset its behind the crown store. The DLC gets further stripped of its value.

What do you mean? I don’t think there is going to be a fourth quarter DLC, is there? The battleground updates are base game.

Not sure if you didn't understand what I meant or youre just being sarcastic.

Not being sarcastic but maybe confused? When ZOS stopped releasing a 4th quarter DLC, many said this decreased the value of ESO+. As far as I understand (didn’t catch the whole stream), this year part will be base game and part will ESO+ (but purchasable for everyone, rather like DLC), so it seems a good deal, unless I’ve missed something?

Companions were previously released with chapters. These new companions will not be free for those who own Gold Road (the chapter) — you have to buy the companions separately with Crowns, or with ESO+. People were expecting the new companions to be free for those who purchased Gold Road, as we really should have had them on release based on previous precedent.

Less confusing now?

RaikaNA · September 10

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

JiubLeRepenti · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

Mostly when so many people are leaving the game.

We need more, better and ambitious content in order to make people stay or come back on ESO.

This won't help at all.

coop500 · September 10

(snip)... Everyone is just gonna call them 'she'

(edited post)

M1SHAAN · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

Trans people aren't "political" for literally just existing.

hiyde · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

LGBTQ characters and stories have been part of ESO since the start. Anyone who finds that offensive has plenty of other gaming choices.

New characters in the companion system are expected annually. PvP lost nothing because one of this year's companions is non-binary. Period, end of story.

I get that not everyone is thrilled about what they chose to add to PvP in U44. Feedback on that is fair. Blaming it on an LGBTQ NPC in a game that's had this sort of content forever is not.

RMW · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

So you say they should not add PvP content as the three banner war is a political conflict? Then you should be happy about the update. I mean I was hoping for some Cyro news, maybe some new rewards etc, but you do you.

Tandor · September 10

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Tanlorin looks pretty cool to me. I will reserve judgement on them until I see their story though.

And, in my case, I hear their voice.

JonnAndCo · September 10

I also wish we could create our own companion some day. I have yet to find one that meshes with my characters. For example, I could enjoy Mirri's treasure hunting theme, but I spend a lot of time harvesting, so every time she chides me for collecting a butterfly, I feel obligated to choose a different companion. I give up on finding one I like, or who likes me.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · September 10

Did anyone get a screenshot of the new companions?

Cazador · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

This game has themes of war, diplomacy, political intrigue, espionage, and slavery. All of those are entirely political. Someone being trans (or non binary in the new companions case) is not.

Aurielle · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

How is this a “political” view? It’s merely a non-binary character. The game has straight characters, gay characters, characters of different ethnic backgrounds, etc. They’re just characters. If a non-binary companion truly ruffles anyone’s feathers, they have the option of not purchasing it.

Lazarus_Rising · September 10

hiyde wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

LGBTQ characters and stories have been part of ESO since the start. Anyone who finds that offensive has plenty of other gaming choices.

New characters in the companion system are expected annually. PvP lost nothing because one of this year's companions is non-binary. Period, end of story.

I get that not everyone is thrilled about what they chose to add to PvP in U44. Feedback on that is fair. Blaming it on an LGBTQ NPC in a game that's had this sort of content forever is not.

Typical cheap implementation of gender politics by US companies. The character is already bland and boring because they chose to advertise excatly that he is non-binary. Its pathetic really. They should hire proper writer who know how to implement characters like these. Take Vivec for example.

ApoAlaia · September 10

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Did anyone get a screenshot of the new companions?

They didn't show in-game footage, just a couple of art stills.

Araneae6537 · September 10

Aurielle wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

WitchyKiki wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

WitchyKiki wrote: »

I'm just upset its behind the crown store. The DLC gets further stripped of its value.

What do you mean? I don’t think there is going to be a fourth quarter DLC, is there? The battleground updates are base game.

Not sure if you didn't understand what I meant or youre just being sarcastic.

Not being sarcastic but maybe confused? When ZOS stopped releasing a 4th quarter DLC, many said this decreased the value of ESO+. As far as I understand (didn’t catch the whole stream), this year part will be base game and part will ESO+ (but purchasable for everyone, rather like DLC), so it seems a good deal, unless I’ve missed something?

Companions were previously released with chapters. These new companions will not be free for those who own Gold Road (the chapter) — you have to buy the companions separately with Crowns, or with ESO+. People were expecting the new companions to be free for those who purchased Gold Road, as we really should have had them on release based on previous precedent.

Less confusing now?

Yes, but like I said, I’d rather have a whole story with the chapter and the companions separate than how it was before with the story split in two (with the second half an additional cost if one was not ESO+).

Honestly, I thought from original post that I replied to that they thought there was going to be a DLC and companions that were ESO+ / Crown store only. I was not intending to be sarcastic or insulting.

Araneae6537 · September 10

coop500 wrote: »

I think it'd help if they didn't give them such prominent boobs... Everyone is just gonna call them 'she'

That’s probably a real problem for some gender non-conforming people. How one looks is not the basis of gender.

coop500 · September 10

JonnAndCo wrote: »

I also wish we could create our own companion some day. I have yet to find one that meshes with my characters. For example, I could enjoy Mirri's treasure hunting theme, but I spend a lot of time harvesting, so every time she chides me for collecting a butterfly, I feel obligated to choose a different companion. I give up on finding one I like, or who likes me.

Yeah that sucks. I'd moreso love a companion that didn't punish normal game activity.

valenwood_vegan · September 10

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Did anyone get a screenshot of the new companions?

Lylith · September 10

RaikaNA wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

I can't believe they locked then erased the topic where people were criticizing the way ZOS define its game priority.

Nobody was asking for a non-binary character. But many people were asking for new PvP content (what we finally got after seven years), more housing items, more ambitious content, new fresh events. And you give us this...

After having spent around 5.000€ in your game since 2016, be sure I won't invest a single cent anymore. Not because I'm pissed that you added a non-binary character, but because you don't seem to hear what the game community is telling you. You simply don't deserve it.

Moderate my message if you want. It won't make people stop leaving ESO.

They gave you PVP content, did you watch the stream? And having a ENBY character is VERY important. Representation matters, i'm extremely happy ZOS has done this, and i do hope they do it justice; just like they did with Alchemy for trans woman.

Political views should never be introduced into video games. It should stay outta it.

that's what i said in chat stream, but it got me banned.

so much for tolerance.

ZOS_Bill · September 10

Greetings,

We've locked this thread to prevent any further spiraling and due to its non-constructive nature. While we completely understand everyone has their own opinions, thoughts, feelings and even frustrations, we want the forums to be a civil and constructive platform for the game and it's community as a whole.

Thank you for your understanding.