Gold Road - New Companions? Lets Discuss

Lady_Titania · May 17

As we approach the release of the newest expansion Gold Road, I am most excited to find new companions in the new zone! Since, 2020, we've gotten 2 new companions every year, and the devs have always gave us a little insight as to who would be joining us on our adventures.

Bastian Hallix is an imperial dragonknight
Mirri Elendis is a dark elf knightblade
Ember is a khajit sorcerer
Isobel Veloise is a breton templar
Sharp is an argonian warden
Azander is a redguard arcanist

This year however, feels different. We haven't heard a peep about any new companions, what could they possibly be cooking up for us??

Personally, I am hoping for a high elf vampire - Someone like Verandis Ravenwatch & Fennorian for the WIN!

WhiteCoatSyndrome · May 17

IIRC we aren’t getting them until Q4.

Michaelkeir · May 17

Pretty much what White said. We aren’t getting them until Q4 and it’s a strong possibility one of them will be a necromancer.

OtarTheMad · May 17

Michaelkeir wrote: »

Pretty much what White said. We aren’t getting them until Q4 and it’s a strong possibility one of them will be a necromancer.

Most likely but making a Necro companion might be rough. I doubt it’ll use pets or the tethers so Blastbones, Skeletal Mage and Syphon are out. What does that leave for offense? Skulls and Graveyard? So, ZOS would have to give the companion a unique ability that isn’t in the necro tool kit. Even having Graveyard and skulls is kind of dull. Graveyard, even for npcs is pretty avoidable and skulls is slow.

One will probably be a necro but with the Necro toolkit being in pretty bad shape would anyone use it? I think ZOS should do the odd thing and make one a Scribing companion and another maybe themed like ice mage or fire mage. Leave Necro for when you overall it, if they plan on that anyway.

EDIT- I also love the idea of one being a vampire and the other being a Werewolf. That’d be cool.

Nerouyn · May 17

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Most likely but making a Necro companion might be rough.

As the only missing player class in the companion line up, they pretty much have to do it and they managed just fine making other class companions who deviate from the class "norm", eg. Ember the sorcerer who summons squat diddly.

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I think ZOS should do the odd thing and make one a Scribing companion and another maybe themed like ice mage or fire mage.

Scribing isn't a bad guess for the other and it'd be my second pick but my money would be on a Knight of the Lamp.

Yes we already have 2 other knight companions but there isn't a lot of variety in the martial department unless they pave the way for a player swordsinger class next year with a swordsinger companion now. Or someone who isn't yet but is seeking to revive the tradition and working towards that.

But that seems too complicated. I reckon it'll be a Lamp Knight.

Erickson9610 · May 17

I bet they'll repeat Companion Classes with the 8th Companion. By the time we have our 11th Companion in two years time, we'll probably see repeated Companion Races, too — although ZOS has stated that they don't feel the need to cover every Race before repeating any. We may even get another Argonian but without a slavery background, as mentioned in the Companions Q&A.

OtarTheMad · May 17

Nerouyn wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Most likely but making a Necro companion might be rough.

As the only missing player class in the companion line up, they pretty much have to do it and they managed just fine making other class companions who deviate from the class "norm", eg. Ember the sorcerer who summons squat diddly..

Yes, Ember didn’t summon anything but Sorc had some more damage choices spread through its other class trees. Also, I did mention that pets and tethers very likely wouldn’t be a part of the companion skills but that doesn’t leave much to put into a Necro Companion’s damage skill line. You take out pets and tethers and you got just Skulls spammable and Boneyard for damage. Tanking and healing even without pets has plenty of options.

I agree that they will do it most likely but I don’t see a necro Companion being something players are going to care to unlock, not until the Necromancer class has better options damage wise for ZOS to turn into companion skills.

We will have to see what ZOS comes up with this year for companions. Q4 DLC so we got time to speculate.

Erickson9610 · May 17

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Most likely but making a Necro companion might be rough.

As the only missing player class in the companion line up, they pretty much have to do it and they managed just fine making other class companions who deviate from the class "norm", eg. Ember the sorcerer who summons squat diddly..

Yes, Ember didn’t summon anything but Sorc had some more damage choices spread through its other class trees. Also, I did mention that pets and tethers very likely wouldn’t be a part of the companion skills but that doesn’t leave much to put into a Necro Companion’s damage skill line. You take out pets and tethers and you got just Skulls spammable and Boneyard for damage. Tanking and healing even without pets has plenty of options.

I agree that they will do it most likely but I don’t see a necro Companion being something players are going to care to unlock, not until the Necromancer class has better options damage wise for ZOS to turn into companion skills.

We will have to see what ZOS comes up with this year for companions. Q4 DLC so we got time to speculate.

I actually think this is how the Companion Necromancer's skills will look, as it takes away the need for corpses or summons:

Damage Dealer
- Some unique Ultimate associated with the Companion's Class (Necromancer) and personality. Maybe the old bone dragon Ultimate that players were going to have instead of Frozen Colossus.
- Flame Skull (single target damage)
- Boneyard (ground AoE damage over time)
- Death Scythe (cone damage)
Tank
- Bone Armor (Companion 20% damage mitigation)
- Bone Totem (area defense buff)
- Grave Grasp (area crowd control)
Healer
- Render Flesh (single target heal)
- Expunge (negative effect purge)
- Life amid Death (ground AoE heal)

In other words, Death Scythe is moved from the player Necromancer tanking line to the Companion Necromancer damage dealer line. It's like how Isobel Veloise (a Companion Templar) has the Companion version of Sun Shield in a separate skill line than the Companion version of Puncturing Strikes, despite player Templars having the player version of those skills in the same skill line.

OtarTheMad · May 17

Erickson9610 wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Most likely but making a Necro companion might be rough.

As the only missing player class in the companion line up, they pretty much have to do it and they managed just fine making other class companions who deviate from the class "norm", eg. Ember the sorcerer who summons squat diddly..

Yes, Ember didn’t summon anything but Sorc had some more damage choices spread through its other class trees. Also, I did mention that pets and tethers very likely wouldn’t be a part of the companion skills but that doesn’t leave much to put into a Necro Companion’s damage skill line. You take out pets and tethers and you got just Skulls spammable and Boneyard for damage. Tanking and healing even without pets has plenty of options.

I agree that they will do it most likely but I don’t see a necro Companion being something players are going to care to unlock, not until the Necromancer class has better options damage wise for ZOS to turn into companion skills.

We will have to see what ZOS comes up with this year for companions. Q4 DLC so we got time to speculate.

I actually think this is how the Companion Necromancer's skills will look, as it takes away the need for corpses or summons:
Damage Dealer
Some unique Ultimate associated with the Companion's Class (Necromancer) and personality. Maybe the old bone dragon Ultimate that players were going to have instead of Frozen Colossus.

Flame Skull (single target damage)

Boneyard (ground AoE damage over time)

Death Scythe (cone damage)

Tank
Bone Armor (Companion 20% damage mitigation)

Bone Totem (area defense buff)

Grave Grasp (area crowd control)

Healer
Render Flesh (single target heal)

Expunge (negative effect purge)

Life amid Death (ground AoE heal)

In other words, Death Scythe is moved from the player Necromancer tanking line to the Companion Necromancer damage dealer line. It's like how Isobel Veloise (a Companion Templar) has the Companion version of Sun Shield in a separate skill line than the Companion version of Puncturing Strikes, despite player Templars having the player version of those skills in the same skill line.

I like the tanking and healing skill lines but the damage one doesn’t excite me. However, yeah that’s pretty much the path you’d have to go down… unless you take some abilities from Soul Magic World skill line since those are technically Necro abilities.

Haywire30 · May 17

Please not an evil and/or supernatural/necromantic Altmer, plz. The evil edgy High Elf is just a dead horse trope at this point.

Treeshka · May 17

They should give us a fully customizable companion.

Yamenstein · May 17

I wouldn’t be surprised if they skip necromancer companion. They have made a class that is basically unplayable. It’s clunky, convoluted, most of the skills a necro uses are outside its class toolkit, and it’s the only class where you can’t use some skills in public.

Summoning the dead in town is bad but summoning daedra is a-okay!

A quirky necro companion that is actually a fun time and not all broody would be awesome though.

ZOS_Kevin · May 17

Just echoing what others have noted, we will have two new companions in Q4 of this year. We'll have more info to share as we lead up to Q4 as well.

TybaltKaine · May 17

A Necro companion would be fun, but I imagine it would also be a headache inducing nightmare to have a companion using skills in a town that gets the player a bounty.

Bounty meter appears because a companion used a Necro skill to aggressively target and eliminate a chicken you fired a shot at in passing is going to be a meme all over the various boards/discords.

Yamenstein · May 17

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just echoing what others have noted, we will have two new companions in Q4 of this year. We'll have more info to share as we lead up to Q4 as well.

Good to see you guys replying to people …

Blood_again · May 17

Just FYI, there is a poll about it: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/654924/which-class-do-you-think-the-8th-companion-will-be

RaddlemanNumber7 · May 17

There are still 4 playable races unrepresented, so I'm expecting they'll stick to the same tried and [yawn] tested formula they've used already.

DenverRalphy · May 17

I'm more interested their perks.

I'd really like an Eveli clone with a perk that mimics Eveli's uncanny ability to beat you to any locatioin by a healthy margin. So perhaps a perk that grants you the ability to fast travel to any location that's been discovered/completed on the map and not just wayshrines/dungeons. Limit it to once per game day, so basically every 6 hours.

Erickson9610 · May 17

TybaltKaine wrote: »

A Necro companion would be fun, but I imagine it would also be a headache inducing nightmare to have a companion using skills in a town that gets the player a bounty.

Bounty meter appears because a companion used a Necro skill to aggressively target and eliminate a chicken you fired a shot at in passing is going to be a meme all over the various boards/discords.

There's no reason why Companion skills need to be labeled as "Criminal Acts" at all. It wouldn't make sense that the player gets a bounty for something the Companion does. If anything at all, Companion "Criminal Act" skills will likely just be given some proc condition like "Used when the Companion is not in a town" or something similar, to simulate the knowledge that "illegal" spells shouldn't be cast near witnesses.

Lady_Titania · May 18

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just echoing what others have noted, we will have two new companions in Q4 of this year. We'll have more info to share as we lead up to Q4 as well.

I am excited to see what is in store for this years companions! I am looking forward to the in depth look on them!

Araneae6537 · May 18

Lady_Titania wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just echoing what others have noted, we will have two new companions in Q4 of this year. We'll have more info to share as we lead up to Q4 as well.

I am excited to see what is in store for this years companions! I am looking forward to the in depth look on them!

Likewise! The companions introduced with Necrom are my favorites so far!

I’m intrigued to find out if one of the reasons we’re waiting until Q4 has to do with the storyline such that introducing them too early would be spoilery? What possibilities could that open up? An Ayleid companion somehow?

Nerouyn · May 18

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Likewise! The companions introduced with Necrom are my favorites so far! I’m intrigued to find out if one of the reasons we’re waiting until Q4 has to do with the storyline such that introducing them too early would be spoilery? What possibilities could that open up? An Ayleid companion somehow?

An Ayleid companion?

Player : Where are you going?
Torvesard : I still have a task to do. I need to find my Prince. Help her. Restore her to the power that is hers by right. And there are other scions out there. I remember them, too, now. Mortal. Fate's chosen. I expect our paths will cross again.

Perhaps one of the other scions is an Ayleid and following the GR story separates from Ithelia, willingly or not.

Araneae6537 · May 18

Nerouyn wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Likewise! The companions introduced with Necrom are my favorites so far! I’m intrigued to find out if one of the reasons we’re waiting until Q4 has to do with the storyline such that introducing them too early would be spoilery? What possibilities could that open up? An Ayleid companion somehow?

An Ayleid companion?

Player : Where are you going?
Torvesard : I still have a task to do. I need to find my Prince. Help her. Restore her to the power that is hers by right. And there are other scions out there. I remember them, too, now. Mortal. Fate's chosen. I expect our paths will cross again.

Perhaps one of the other scions is an Ayleid and following the GR story separates from Ithelia, willingly or not.

Yes, it is probably more a wish than a likelihood… But a Daedric Prince’s return could make possible what otherwise would not be… It will be interesting to see what comes.

Yamenstein · May 18

Torvesard is going to be the new companion.

Anifaas · May 18

Kind of disappointing that the companions don't launch with the expansion. What's the hold up?

LunaFlora · May 18

Yamenstein wrote: »

Torvesard is going to be the new companion.

existing characters are not gonna be companions so no

LunaFlora · May 18

Anifaas wrote: »

Kind of disappointing that the companions don't launch with the expansion. What's the hold up?

whatever the reason is, update 44 is likely a completely base game update so the new companions would be available to everyone which would be awesome.

AlwaysDancing · May 18

We need an animal companion - along the lines of Dogmeat

freespirit · May 18

LunaFlora wrote: »

Anifaas wrote: »

Kind of disappointing that the companions don't launch with the expansion. What's the hold up?

whatever the reason is, update 44 is likely a completely base game update so the new companions would be available to everyone which would be awesome.

Update 44 is stated to be PVP related I believe,

I suspect the new companion's starter quests will however be located within the bounds of Gold Road, it would be awesome if they were base game though!

Edit:- Ofc they could also be a "new" type of companion available in PVP and their quests could be in Cyrodiil...... the reaction to that would be hilarious!! 🤣

Araneae6537 · May 18

freespirit wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

Anifaas wrote: »

Kind of disappointing that the companions don't launch with the expansion. What's the hold up?

whatever the reason is, update 44 is likely a completely base game update so the new companions would be available to everyone which would be awesome.

Update 44 is stated to be PVP related I believe,

I suspect the new companion's starter quests will however be located within the bounds of Gold Road, it would be awesome if they were base game though!

Edit:- Ofc they could also be a "new" type of companion available in PVP and their quests could be in Cyrodiil...... the reaction to that would be hilarious!! 🤣

Haha

Companions would have to be summonable in Cyrodiil then, which certainly won’t happen for a number of reasons!

vsrs_au · May 18

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I'm more interested their perks.

I'd really like an Eveli clone with a perk that mimics Eveli's uncanny ability to beat you to any locatioin by a healthy margin. So perhaps a perk that grants you the ability to fast travel to any location that's been discovered/completed on the map and not just wayshrines/dungeons. Limit it to once per game day, so basically every 6 hours.

An Eveli companion might have the following perk when you've leveled her up:

Pigtail Whammy
When you turn more than (v) degrees in (w) seconds, you have a (x)% chance to summon spectral versions of Eveli's pigtails, which violently swing around to deal Major (y) to all enemies within (z) metres.