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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/684716

Is ESO stealing my money?

Royalbadass
Hello people.
I have had my subscription cancelled for a while now, but still on my bank it says reservation for Elder scrolls online and then the amount that is reserved.
I have 5days left before my account gets frozen. So what will happen? Will they just withdraw the money, even though i have already cancelled?
I have read a reply from a staff member, i will post below, but it still annoys me that the money is still reserved. Its been weeks now.

We would like to clear up some misinformation on the forums regarding cancellation of recurring subscriptions.

If you selected a recurring subscription payment method – such as a credit card – your card will not be charged until your 30 days of access included with the purchase of the game expire. If you cancel your subscription at any time before the expiration of your included 30 days, your card will not be charged.

Some forum users have noted language in the Terms of Service (TOS) requiring users to cancel 30 days prior to the end of the current subscription period in order to avoid continuing charges. However, the TOS also provide that a specific web service – such as ESO – can have different terms that will apply to that service. In the case of ESO, as clearly stated in the ESO store pages, you can cancel your subscription at any time.

So for someone who activated a 30-day recurring subscription plan on April 5:
  • You will have 30 days of gameplay included with purchase of the game and you will not be charged for a subscription payment until May 5, immediately upon expiration of the 30 days.
  • If you cancel your subscription at any time prior to May 5, you will not be charged for a subscription payment. You will continue to have access to the game until expiration of your 30 days included gameplay.
  • If you cancel your subscription after May 5, say on June 9, you will be charged for the May and June 30-day billing cycles. After that you will not be charged for a subscription payment. You will continue to have access to the game until expiration of your 30-day June billing cycle.

We look forward to seeing you in Tamriel!
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  • GossiTheDog
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    Your bank handles pre-authorisation changes - Zenimax has no control over it, as bank deals with 'em. Phone your bank.
  • Loxy37
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    I think it should release after 30 days but I would call your bank and get them to speed it up. This is why I like PayPal because I can cancel direct from them regardless of if I've set up a sub with any firm, they will just get a declined if I do so. I've used PayPal since its inception as I will never have a credit card because they are the route to evil but that's a story for another time.
  • Saerydoth
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    Loxy37 wrote: »
    I think it should release after 30 days but I would call your bank and get them to speed it up. This is why I like PayPal because I can cancel direct from them regardless of if I've set up a sub with any firm, they will just get a declined if I do so. I've used PayPal since its inception as I will never have a credit card because they are the route to evil but that's a story for another time.

    If it's a credit card the bank has up to 30 days to release the funds. If it's a debit card, the rules are different, they generally have 3 business days.
  • Royalbadass
    Thanks alot for all the good answers! :)
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  • Moiskormoimi
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    Your bank handles pre-authorisation changes - Zenimax has no control over it, as bank deals with 'em. Phone your bank.

    False. The merchant submits authorization generally through an automated system. When they send in their final request, it gives an expiration date of the hold. This is why you're seeing the difference across consumers. Depending on when and who placed the hold, the dates vary. Some have their dates set two months out. Bank hold policies generally range from 3-5 days. The only time the bank will ever use their own hold policy is in the event that the merchant does not submit the final authorization which places the date on the transaction, like when you go to purchase gas at the pump and it swipes your card for a dollar authorization. Those generally do not have dates on them. Most people usually purchase gas on a Thursday or Friday and that dollar falls off on a Monday or Tuesday (though the merchant can and will still process payment subs that collect for the full amount).

    If the money is still held after two weeks, you need to contact customer support for the company you made the transaction through.
  • GossiTheDog
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    @amber_picchiottino_ESO - Zenimax use Global Payments merchant and don't set an authorization window. They need to phone their bank. There's been many topics on this before.
  • Moiskormoimi
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    @amber_picchiottino_ESO - Zenimax use Global Payments merchant and don't set an authorization window. They need to phone their bank. There's been many topics on this before.

    Yes merchants do set the auth window. You don't understand how pre-auth transactions work. It's not a one step fits all situation.
    When a merchant swipes a customer's credit card, the credit card terminal connects to the merchant's acquirer, or credit card processor, which verifies that the customer's account is valid and that sufficient funds are available to cover the transaction's cost. At this step, the funds are "held" and deducted from the customer's credit limit (or bank balance, in the case of a debit card) but are not yet transferred to the merchant. At the end of the day, the merchant instructs the credit card machine to submit the finalized transactions to the acquirer in a "batch transfer," which begins the settlement process, where the funds are transferred from the customer's accounts to the merchant's accounts. Contrary to popular belief, this process is not instantaneous: the transaction may not appear on the customer's statement or online account activity for one to two days, and it can take up to three days for funds to be deposited in the merchant's account.
    The above explains how the process works on the merchant's end. Again, if they do not submit a date, the bank will adhere to their own hold policies per law. If they do submit a date, it will hold for that time frame.

    I've had to instruct bank tellers on how to get the hold removed via the merchant. If there's a date, the only way to get it released is to have the merchant release the transaction. This typically involves a three-way call between the merchant, myself, and the client. They also wouldn't have sent in a ticket for the op upon examining this thread like they did if it was a bank side issue.
    Edited by Moiskormoimi on 6 May 2014 19:14
  • Rhoric
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    No they don't. My pre auth was released after 2 weeks. That is how my card issuer has it set.
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