didn't is say 2 pm at first and then get changed too 6 pm?

We can expect them to be professionals at server swaps, right?

Well, as much a I want to jump on the server. I know exactly how hardware changes can go....

Not to plan...

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

@lurkin777 Yes, the time was updated to 6pm. This is a difficult process, so we appreciate everyone's patience as we work through maintenance. We'll update if times changes or we are opening to players. Thanks, all.

Sorry I missed the header on the expected time frame. While we all strive for perfection as Mr. Smith does, we all cant seem to find it. I appreciate your response to the timely process ZOS_Kevin. Will TRY to be more observant. Many Thanks.

@Platemale

I don't get the the people who slam on ZOS for incompetence, not giving an eff, whatever. ZOS is a business. They stay in business by making money. Like businesses all over the world, they offer something in the hopes that enough people will like what they offer enough to hand over some cash. Other than microsoft, who has a virtual monopoly, businesses don't tend to stay in business if their model is "screw over the customer, make them mad at us, and don't give an eff about the product." I have no doubt the fine people working for ZOS care as much, and probably a heck of a lot more, about this game than any of you do. For many of them, this is probably a dream job. I would imagine for most or all, it's more than "just a job." I am sure the extended down time is as unwelcome for them as much as it is for you. Maybe instead of sitting on the message boards complaining, you could, I don't know, go experience the real world this afternoon. Or go play another game. Read a book. Talk to another live, in-person, human being. Be creative. But let's stop the incessant whining about employees who are doing their best to give you a product you are willing to pay for.

Tell me you don't work in IT without telling me you don't work in IT.

Really, apologists should stop making excuses for the dev team. They have an obligation to be able to do these things without booting out paying customers during prime time. How about a side-by-side server setup that you switch folks over to while you update the idle system(s)? that's pretty common in the dev ops world.

tauriel01 wrote: »

I don't get the the people who slam on ZOS for incompetence, not giving an eff, whatever. ZOS is a business. They stay in business by making money. Like businesses all over the world, they offer something in the hopes that enough people will like what they offer enough to hand over some cash. Other than microsoft, who has a virtual monopoly, businesses don't tend to stay in business if their model is "screw over the customer, make them mad at us, and don't give an eff about the product." I have no doubt the fine people working for ZOS care as much, and probably a heck of a lot more, about this game than any of you do. For many of them, this is probably a dream job. I would imagine for most or all, it's more than "just a job." I am sure the extended down time is as unwelcome for them as much as it is for you. Maybe instead of sitting on the message boards complaining, you could, I don't know, go experience the real world this afternoon. Or go play another game. Read a book. Talk to another live, in-person, human being. Be creative. But let's stop the incessant whining about employees who are doing their best to give you a product you are willing to pay for.

[snip] I don't disagree with everything you have said but I certainly don't agree with it all. I'm certainly not going to digress, and cherry pick it.
I am 71 years old and have been in IT longer than you have been alive twice over I would wager. [snip]
Also notice by looking at my profile just how much time I spend on the forums...which is very little.
I've played this game since July of 2014 because it gives me great joy as I suffer from a terminal illness and approach the final days of my life.

[snip]

Platemale

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SeaGtGruff wrote: »

trem3c wrote: »

Really, apologists should stop making excuses for the dev team. They have an obligation to be able to do these things without booting out paying customers during prime time. How about a side-by-side server setup that you switch folks over to while you update the idle system(s)? that's pretty common in the dev ops world.

I think people should stop complaining for two years about how we were all promised server upgrades that never happened, and then complain all day when the long-awaited server upgrades finally happen. But that's just my opinion.

And if saying "Thank you" to the people who worked hard all day on implementing those upgrades, and who worked behind the scenes for the last two years or more on this, makes me some kind of "apologist" in your book, then all I can say is thank you very much for recognizing that I actually appreciate the people who work hard to bring me a game that I love to play.

Okay but this isn't the upgrades we're waiting for to be clear. Us "complainers" are waiting for the code rewrite. I don't really care how "stable" the server is if the code is still too spaghetti for anything to work end game wise. I highly doubt whatever it is they did today will improve performance in pvp, or the fact that now at 1am my time (the DEADZONE for the server.) dungeons are stuttering the whole group (all in different places in the world). Ya know...since this isn't even gonna improve performance apparently according to the man himself.

I appreciate the workers too, I don't appreciate a large company acting like they are working harder than they are tho. The workers themselves: Totally get it. But to act like them doing their job is some gold star achievement is pretty ridiculous imo. Its their job. You don't see surgeons getting a gold star for every surgery they do.