ESO+ and you

Melivar · January 2022

30 day membership

30 day now. I used to be on the 180 plan but makes it much harder to vote with the wallet when things don't make me happy if I have already paid for 3 more months.

Dark_Lord_Kuro · January 2022

180 day membership

Zuboko wrote: »

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

I would go for the year long but in my country for some reason the yearly one is more expensive than twice the 6 month one, heck it even more than 4x the 3 month!!!
1 month:19,99x12= 239,88$
3 month:41,99$x4=167,96$
6 month:77,99$x 2= 155,98$
12 month=172,99$
I see no reason to justify that 20$ out of my pocket so i stick to 6 month

@Dark_Lord_Kuro Your prices seem to be a bit off.
From the ESO store directly

From the Steam Store

They might have changed since you last looked at them.

From the psn in canada

Mayrael · January 2022

30 day membership

Mostly because of some "brilliant" ideas that combat team used to have, I just like to have an option to vote with my wallet.

Kiralyn2000 · January 2022

I don't use it at all (i use it only when it's free)

Kessra wrote: »

So, ESO+ is convenient but is for sure not the most cost-effective method on how to play the game

<goblin>Time is money, friend</goblin>

(seriously, all the juggling you'd have to do with those banks; plus the way crafting mats automatically go to, and are pulled from, the craft bag... it's not worth the supposed "savings" you're claiming. It's also ignoring that if you're using these 5 private guilds for bank space, you're not in any 'real' guilds. Not a problem for me, but seems like it would be for most.)

LashanW · January 2022

30 day membership

I choose the minimum option. There are times when I don't have anything to look forward to in ESO. Which is usually when my trial guild takes a break, and PvP being in the current state it is.

So gotta be always ready to pull the plug.

JJOtterBear · January 2022

30 day membership

i only do 30 days at a time. its much easier for figuring out my budget month to month. also its a lot easier to drop $15 than it is $100+.

captainwolfos · January 2022

365 day membership

I prefer to pay for a year in advance, but I'm currently getting a monthly sub because I couldn't afford to get the yearly one when I needed to update my sub, so it's slightly more manageable for me right now, even if it technically isn't cheaper.

Lysette · January 2022

90 day membership

SilverBride wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I prefer 1 month because if I do 3 months like I used to I use my crowns too fast and then have a long wait before I get more. I know I can purchase crowns but I've only done that a handful of times and don't want to make it a habit.

There is a solution to it, which I am using - a prepaid non-reoccurring payment method - you get all the crowns immediately after paying and it simply adds the time to your already running ESO+ time - it is very convenient. It doesn't fix the using crowns too fast effect though, I have normally used mine pretty much the day after already - but that is ok, I can add more ESO+ time anytime and get crowns, if I need some - and spending them is enhancing my gameplay and enjoyment of the game - having them on the wallet though does not.

Like I had no crowns left and then I came across that snow globe house - hm, a unique idea for a house and it isn't too big on the inside, but on different floor levels, and so I added 3 months ESO+ to my already existing 2+ months and got me that house, which is getting really nice and cosy - I'm nearly done decorating it - a jewelry station is missing still, but I will get one soon to make it complete (for my purposes).

That would just make things worse. If I did 3 months, used up the crowns in a week, added 3 more months to my existing sub then used those crowns up in another week then I'd have 6 months to wait for my next crowns. And every time I did that it would extend my wait time by 3 more months.

I am much better off doing monthly and using my self control to try not to use them up so fast.

what wait time, there is none - you can add eso+ time this way at any time and it just adds it to your remaining days - it is the most convenient way, if you don't count that you have to actually buy it every time by hand - as it is non-reoccurring.

Just to be clear, I did not suggest to use it in addition to a reoccurring sub - but instead of it. This way your self-control issue is helped as well, as you need to get the prepaid code (or whatever it is) first - that is time for you to think about, if you really want to do it or not.

I was without ESO+ for a short while, missed costume dyes, DLC access - crafting bag was not an issue for the time being, but that I have to take out those 3 extra ingredients by hand to complete alchemy writs was annoying - it is automatic with ESO+ - and gathering stuff is more fun if is immediately going to the crafting bag - my characters are quite full inventory-wise without ESO+, but need just about 30-40 slots with ESO+ each - so yeah, ESO+ is great and imo a fair offer as it is - the service costs money and someone has to pay for it.

Sarannah · January 2022

365 day membership

365 days as it is the cheapest, and allows me not to worry about when it expires. As long as ZOS does nothing drastic to ruin my overall enjoyment of the game, I'm not going anywhere.

PS: ZOS please fix the 1 second delay when unsheathing weapons, currently this is the most annoying thing in the game!
PPS: Currently the second most annoying bug is the dual wield skill shrouded daggers, it does not bounce off of dying targets. So please lower the cost to 1/3rd to compensate, atleast until the bug is fixed.

_adhyffbjjjf12 · January 2022

I paid a year in advance, with my current sub running out in August. However ZOS showed zero respect for paying customers by removing my primary content - objective based PVP so last year will be the last time I invest as I no longer trust their development approach.

Kessra · January 2022

tmbrinks wrote: »

I definitely go through that many resources, doing writs on 18 (or 36 characters that I did for years) grinds though those mats. With the material return of doing writs, much of it goes right back into the craft bag, but to actually use 10k materials without the replacement (at an average of about 40 per character per day) only is a few days. It's a waste of game time (and real life time) to buy those materials, deposit into guild banks, move them around (especially on my "main" account which is in trading guilds, trials guilds, etc, so wouldn't be in all 5 "guild bank guilds")

If you have 10k materials stored and do crafting dailies on each of your 18 toons each day, that stock lasts you for two weeks at least if you don't replensih your resources. With all those surveys you got for turning in those that demand though is easily collectible though in my experience. As such, if you collect those surveys once a week i.e. the demand for the whole week is probably covered easily. 5k burn per ore/wood/fabric would be 25 stacks, making up 100 necessary inventory/bank/guild bank space required for those 4 crafting professions. If you add up alchemy, enchanting and cooking there is still room in a guild bank to store additional items.

As mentioned multiple times now, it is mostly convenience. You don't need to take care of storing those items explicitely somewhere and can directly craft out of your bag and you don't need to spend a thought about how much space those materials might require. But with the right organization (i.e. through addons) it's not like that kind of management would take years.

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It's also ignoring that if you're using these 5 private guilds for bank space, you're not in any 'real' guilds. Not a problem for me, but seems like it would be for most.)

And trading guilds are "real" guilds in that case? At least those tradeguilds I have been in the only conversations was like: MM for item X please.

In the end it's the players decision on how they want to play the game

Some people here don't get the point what I was trying to show up. They reduce my post obviously to a "that's a better way to play the game" which was never my intention. It was just a food of thought. I'm not sure why everyone things their kind of gameplay is the only valid one. If you don't like it it's fine, just move on and do what you enjoy

Lalocat · January 2022

I decided to go with the one month. Why am I sharing this fascinating information with the forums? I will tell you:

When you try to "downgrade" a subscription for example go from 3 months to 1 month they charge you the difference. So, for example, I have two days left on my sub, I go to the website to resub and immediately get a notification that someone is trying to take one euro (€1) out of my bank account. What. Why?? I paid for those three months (or two days, depending on how you look at it) already. Why on earth would I be charged extra for the current time remaining when trying to buy more time for the future?

Anyone know if you get an immediate refund on current time if you make your sub longer? ...

aurorable · January 2022

365 day membership

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

From the psn in canada

That's so weird, did someone mess up on the pricing? Or is there some kind of discount on psn? Here's steams:

Kiralyn2000 · January 2022

I don't use it at all (i use it only when it's free)

Kessra wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It's also ignoring that if you're using these 5 private guilds for bank space, you're not in any 'real' guilds. Not a problem for me, but seems like it would be for most.)

And trading guilds are "real" guilds in that case? At least those tradeguilds I have been in the only conversations was like: MM for item X please.

Trial guilds, pvp guilds, social guilds, trade guilds... all those things people keep making "we need MOAR GUILD SLOTS!" thread about. /shrug

In the end it's the players decision on how they want to play the game Some people here don't get the point what I was trying to show up. They reduce my post obviously to a "that's a better way to play the game" which was never my intention. It was just a food of thought. I'm not sure why everyone things their kind of gameplay is the only valid one. If you don't like it it's fine, just move on and do what you enjoy

I didn't say you were saying "better way", or "not valid", or that "my way" (whatever that is) is "the only valid one". I was objecting to your saying it was more "cost effective". Because time is a cost, too, and your method involves a lot of time juggling banks/accounts/etc. Yes, it's cheaper from a strictly $ standpoint. But I don't think it's necessarily cheaper when you include all factors. Difference of opinion. Eh, whatever.

Elsonso · January 2022

365 day membership

Lalocat wrote: »

I decided to go with the one month. Why am I sharing this fascinating information with the forums? I will tell you:

When you try to "downgrade" a subscription for example go from 3 months to 1 month they charge you the difference. So, for example, I have two days left on my sub, I go to the website to resub and immediately get a notification that someone is trying to take one euro (€1) out of my bank account. What. Why?? I paid for those three months (or two days, depending on how you look at it) already. Why on earth would I be charged extra for the current time remaining when trying to buy more time for the future?

Anyone know if you get an immediate refund on current time if you make your sub longer? ...

That is a "test charge" to make sure that the payment method is valid. Typically, this charge will be "pending", meaning it is logged against any limits, but not something you have to pay. It goes away after a few days.

When you buy ESO Plus, there are no refunds or credits applied if you change your mind. If you switch to a different subscription, the current one continues and when it renews, it renews with the new subscription.

tmbrinks · January 2022

365 day membership

Kessra wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

I definitely go through that many resources, doing writs on 18 (or 36 characters that I did for years) grinds though those mats. With the material return of doing writs, much of it goes right back into the craft bag, but to actually use 10k materials without the replacement (at an average of about 40 per character per day) only is a few days. It's a waste of game time (and real life time) to buy those materials, deposit into guild banks, move them around (especially on my "main" account which is in trading guilds, trials guilds, etc, so wouldn't be in all 5 "guild bank guilds")

If you have 10k materials stored and do crafting dailies on each of your 18 toons each day, that stock lasts you for two weeks at least if you don't replensih your resources. With all those surveys you got for turning in those that demand though is easily collectible though in my experience. As such, if you collect those surveys once a week i.e. the demand for the whole week is probably covered easily. 5k burn per ore/wood/fabric would be 25 stacks, making up 100 necessary inventory/bank/guild bank space required for those 4 crafting professions. If you add up alchemy, enchanting and cooking there is still room in a guild bank to store additional items.

As mentioned multiple times now, it is mostly convenience. You don't need to take care of storing those items explicitely somewhere and can directly craft out of your bag and you don't need to spend a thought about how much space those materials might require. But with the right organization (i.e. through addons) it's not like that kind of management would take years.

I'm very aware of the materials used in doing daily writs crafting

I've even done it w/o plus on the alt account, which could be in 4 storage guilds that I couldn't do on my main. So I have absolutely zero questions or need how the process works explained.

It's simply not worth the time (to me), as I mentioned multiple times, for something that costs less than 3 hours of work a year, and comes with many, many, many other benefits.

The OP was asking "ESO+ and you" implying how I use ESO+, I've answered that.

peacenote · January 2022

365 day membership

I only have time to play one MMO at once. So a yearly subscription is more cost effective. I like the benefits of ESO+, wouldn't say no if they added more, and would be kind of disappointed if the model was eliminated and I had to go back and buy that stuff separately. Even though I know it is a "rental," I have been Subscribing for so long that it would almost feel like bait and switch if I had to then buy the DLCs and craft bag and whatnot. Unless they made it REALLLLLLY cheap. Or gifted them to longtime subscribers or something.

Even with ad hoc Crown purchases I kind of "subscribe." I buy them when they go on sale and typically don't make any impulse purchases throughout the year.

HyekAr · January 2022

30 day membership

I only use it once, and only 1 month, cz I bought whole dlc and part directly

Dark_Lord_Kuro · January 2022

180 day membership

aurorable wrote: »

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

From the psn in canada

That's so weird, did someone mess up on the pricing? Or is there some kind of discount on psn? Here's steams:

It been like this for years so that would be a loooong discount

ive_wonder · January 2022

365 day membership

So from statistics so far, players mostly play with sub.
Which raises the question: why in oblivion crown crates are still in the game?

tmbrinks · January 2022

365 day membership

ive_wonder wrote: »

So from statistics so far, players mostly play with sub.
Which raises the question: why in oblivion crown crates are still in the game?

I think a majority of forum users sub (I know there are many who do not before somebody says something). Forum users tend to be those that are more invested in the game.

I would guess the players not on the forums are less likely to be subs.

Elsonso · January 2022

365 day membership

tmbrinks wrote: »

ive_wonder wrote: »

So from statistics so far, players mostly play with sub.
Which raises the question: why in oblivion crown crates are still in the game?

I think a majority of forum users sub (I know there are many who do not before somebody says something). Forum users tend to be those that are more invested in the game.

I would guess the players not on the forums are less likely to be subs.

My impression is that ESO Plus is used by considerably more than half of the players. I also think that usage of ESO Plus is more stable outside of social media influences, so less "rage quit' situations due to social suggestion.

ive_wonder · January 2022

365 day membership

tmbrinks wrote: »

I think a majority of forum users sub (I know there are many who do not before somebody says something). Forum users tend to be those that are more invested in the game.

I would guess the players not on the forums are less likely to be subs.

Why would anyone not invested in the game choose to put money into a crown crates?
Especially in amounts that justify said crates existence

BlueRaven · January 2022

365 day membership

A lot more people have the year long sub option than I expected.