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EP @BRK deliberately disconnected all of DC!!

eternalshockcable
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Hey ZENIMAX,

You need to come into cyrodiil in PC NA GREYHOST and start monitoring this pvp stuff.
People deliberately disconnected the DC that were attempting to take BRK.
Then at Arrius the lag was so bad it was helping EP hold their keep.
Now this wouldn't be a call out but this was the second keep we tried to take from them.
Ping going going to the 300+ and crazy numbers of desync.
All which apparently is only helping the EP.

This comes down to the part if you had game masters,
you could be aware of this and I wouldn't have to make a post.

THE ALT CODE of DC
[snip]

DC ALT CODED
[snip]

RETURNING PROOF OF ALT CODE
[snip]

Now if this isn't an alt code ,
you still see it's a deliberate disconnect by EP on DC.

[Edited to remove Naming and Shaming]
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on 28 March 2021 10:24
Dear Community/Followers,

I want to address recent concerns regarding allegations of inappropriate direct messages and supposed cheating. First and foremost, I want to clarify that I do not admit to any wrongdoing. However, I understand that my actions may have been perceived in a way that caused concern.

As many of you know, I am a disabled veteran who served in Iraq, and I am permanently and totally mentally disabled. My PTSD, which was formally diagnosed in 2013 after being reclassified in the DSM-5, has affected me in ways that are difficult to fully explain. While this is not an excuse, it has, at times, clouded my judgment and impacted my behavior. This condition is something I have lived with for a long time, and it is a daily challenge.

As an influencer, streamer, and game reviewer with over 300 reviews, 800 followers on Twitch, and 1,600 followers on TikTok, I understand the responsibility that comes with my platform. Our role as influencers is to set a positive example, and I want to make it clear that I do not condone actions that go against the Terms of Service (TOS) or End User License Agreements (EULA) of any platform or community. Even though societal norms have evolved, and what was once deemed acceptable behavior in the past is no longer appropriate, I am committed to adapting and ensuring that my actions reflect the values we strive for today.

I want to go forward with a commitment to better representing the disabled members of our community. I recognize that I may never fully "fit in" or be "normal," but I am dedicated to improving and learning from these experiences. It is crucial that we have more flexibility and better support services for disabled veterans like myself, so we can remain active members of our communities without being unfairly limited by our disabilities. These services would help ensure that we can make better decisions and avoid situations like this in the future.

Thank you for your understanding, and I am grateful for the continued support of this community as I work to become a better version of myself.

Sincerely,
theshockcable
  • Sanctum74
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    Game masters can’t fix poor servers and buggy game code. Stop blaming other players for Zos’s neglect.
  • VaranisArano
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    When it comes to discussing this here on the forums,, I have two questions.
    Which platform/server/campaign?
    And...
    How is this different from other completely normal disconnections?

    If you think this was deliberate, I suggest that you A. Make a report to ZOS, B. Include that ticket # here.
  • Sanctum74
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    The first video was the streamers fault. You never ride into a keep under attack or you will most likely get disconnected since all the assets haven’t loaded in yet.

    The second video said ep disconnected all of dc meanwhile there are several dc fighting in the keep.

    The third video showing him load into the game doesn’t show anything at all.

    Sounds like a normal night in cyro and no indication of cheating. This patch brought back disconnects, blue screens, and even more desyncs so no amount of game masters or blaming other players will fix that.
  • eternalshockcable
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    Its not . Buggy code
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The first video was the streamers fault. You never ride into a keep under attack or you will most likely get disconnected since all the assets haven’t loaded in yet.

    The second video said ep disconnected all of dc meanwhile there are several dc fighting in the keep.

    The third video showing him load into the game doesn’t show anything at all.

    Sounds like a normal night in cyro and no indication of cheating. This patch brought back disconnects, blue screens, and even more desyncs so no amount of game masters or blaming other players will fix that.


    First off riding into a keep does not "disconnect you due to all the assets haven't loaded in" .
    The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting.
    The third shows how many EP were unaffected and are possible perpetrators of the incident.


    Look clearly from both your post you have an objective mindset.
    You can't determine which exactly happened, because you're not looking for it.
    You said it yourself in your previous post that you believe its servers.
    We get that you believe that , so no mater how many clips I post you wouldn't believe it.
    This is close minded thinking.
    That being said you should probably leave that kind of determination to professionals.
    Edited by eternalshockcable on 27 March 2021 15:58
    Dear Community/Followers,

    I want to address recent concerns regarding allegations of inappropriate direct messages and supposed cheating. First and foremost, I want to clarify that I do not admit to any wrongdoing. However, I understand that my actions may have been perceived in a way that caused concern.

    As many of you know, I am a disabled veteran who served in Iraq, and I am permanently and totally mentally disabled. My PTSD, which was formally diagnosed in 2013 after being reclassified in the DSM-5, has affected me in ways that are difficult to fully explain. While this is not an excuse, it has, at times, clouded my judgment and impacted my behavior. This condition is something I have lived with for a long time, and it is a daily challenge.

    As an influencer, streamer, and game reviewer with over 300 reviews, 800 followers on Twitch, and 1,600 followers on TikTok, I understand the responsibility that comes with my platform. Our role as influencers is to set a positive example, and I want to make it clear that I do not condone actions that go against the Terms of Service (TOS) or End User License Agreements (EULA) of any platform or community. Even though societal norms have evolved, and what was once deemed acceptable behavior in the past is no longer appropriate, I am committed to adapting and ensuring that my actions reflect the values we strive for today.

    I want to go forward with a commitment to better representing the disabled members of our community. I recognize that I may never fully "fit in" or be "normal," but I am dedicated to improving and learning from these experiences. It is crucial that we have more flexibility and better support services for disabled veterans like myself, so we can remain active members of our communities without being unfairly limited by our disabilities. These services would help ensure that we can make better decisions and avoid situations like this in the future.

    Thank you for your understanding, and I am grateful for the continued support of this community as I work to become a better version of myself.

    Sincerely,
    theshockcable
  • Sanctum74
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    Its not . Buggy cod
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The first video was the streamers fault. You never ride into a keep under attack or you will most likely get disconnected since all the assets haven’t loaded in yet.

    The second video said ep disconnected all of dc meanwhile there are several dc fighting in the keep.

    The third video showing him load into the game doesn’t show anything at all.

    Sounds like a normal night in cyro and no indication of cheating. This patch brought back disconnects, blue screens, and even more desyncs so no amount of game masters or blaming other players will fix that.


    First off riding into a keep does not "disconnect you due to all the assets haven't loaded in" .
    The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting.
    The third shows how many EP were unaffected and are possible perpetrators of the incident.


    Actually you have an already objective mind set. Clearly you can't determine which exactly happened.
    That being said you should probably leave that kind of determination to professionals.

    You must be new here, riding into a keep under attack has caused disconnects for years. Not every time, but it happens often enough that I always dismount before entering to give the game time to catch up.

    The second video shows players on both sides and since you disconnected before you have no idea what really happened.

    Again the third video shows absolutely nothing but you loading your character in.

    Yes I do have an objective mind set. I’ve played the game long enough to see how bad the performance has deteriorated through the years and all the toxicity it has caused with everyone blaming everyone else except zos.

    I do agree to let the professionals handle it though since it’s clearly out of the players hands and not their fault.
  • VaranisArano
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    I dunno about everyone else, but riding into or up to a keep under heavy attack is a pretty frequent disconnect for me. I'm EP on PC/NA, and I swear there's a boundary line north of BRK that as soon as I hit the clear grass around the keep I can be sprinting towards the door but I'm actually already disconnected. Riding into a keep breach is another one - either people don't generate, or they do and I'm moving but accomplishing nothing because I've already disconnected and it takes a bit for my game to recognize it. It's a great time to stop and admire the outfits on everyone else though...
  • XvarleyX
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    @eternalshockcable Lots of people in Craglorn and Murkmire. I think when the server decides it needs to evaluate the number of instances available in PvE, some players take the hit. Be it in PvP, middle of a trial or arena, or searching guild banks etc. Some people get booted and have to relog.

    I honestly think it's far fetched at best to believe people can just remove the opposite faction from a keep/server, and not have this flag up on ZOS' end.

    Game is not very good with heavily populated areas. And people are smashing mobs almost constantly right now during double xp and especially after CP 2.0.

    *tin hat removed*
  • Soul_Demon
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    Its not . Buggy code
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The first video was the streamers fault. You never ride into a keep under attack or you will most likely get disconnected since all the assets haven’t loaded in yet.

    The second video said ep disconnected all of dc meanwhile there are several dc fighting in the keep.

    The third video showing him load into the game doesn’t show anything at all.

    Sounds like a normal night in cyro and no indication of cheating. This patch brought back disconnects, blue screens, and even more desyncs so no amount of game masters or blaming other players will fix that.


    First off riding into a keep does not "disconnect you due to all the assets haven't loaded in" .
    The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting.
    The third shows how many EP were unaffected and are possible perpetrators of the incident.


    Look clearly from both your post you have an objective mindset.
    You can't determine which exactly happened, because you're not looking for it.
    You said it yourself in your previous post that you believe its servers.
    We get that you believe that , so no mater how many clips I post you wouldn't believe it.
    This is close minded thinking.
    That being said you should probably leave that kind of determination to professionals.

    There a a few problems with what you say here is 'proof' ......the most obvious is you on a stream 'saying' something is happening is not proof at all.

    For the other things that dont quite make sense "The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting." So you say after a disconnect the players madly log back in and you and others had to ride all the way back to the keep where EP were waiting, and also where they likely crashed out too----ride in, was already there. You may have also simply 'appeared' where the game last had you as you transitioned into the 'area' of the keep. Regardless, because they were where they crashed out before you, doesn't mean someone pushed some crash button. This is basic crash procedure, force crash game and log back in- 99% of the time you appear exactly where the game last had you located.
  • Prospero_ESO
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    Hey ZENIMAX,

    You need to come into cyrodiil in PC NA GREYHOST and start monitoring this pvp stuff.
    People deliberately disconnected the DC that were attempting to take BRK.
    Then at Arrius the lag was so bad it was helping EP hold their keep.
    Now this wouldn't be a call out but this was the second keep we tried to take from them.
    Ping going going to the 300+ and crazy numbers of desync.
    All which apparently is only helping the EP.

    This comes down to the part if you had game masters,
    you could be aware of this and I wouldn't have to make a post.

    THE ALT CODE of DC
    https://clips.twitch.tv/VastChillySageOSfrog-rr-CFW9oNRSSvyNn

    DC ALT CODED
    https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicBrightInternPartyTime-impkWDtp4PRunhEu

    RETURNING PROOF OF ALT CODE
    https://clips.twitch.tv/HelplessSingleKuduChocolateRain-0Jd_qcMAqHTKb7jT

    Now if this isn't an alt code ,
    you still see it's a deliberate disconnect by EP on DC.


    You say that players from one faction deliberately disconnect players from another faction. Now can you explain on a technical level what leads you to that statement "deliberate" and how one player in the game is able to manipulate the connection of another player whose connection parameters are unknown? I am genuinely interested.
  • master_vanargand
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    Hey ZENIMAX,

    You need to come into cyrodiil in PC NA GREYHOST and start monitoring this pvp stuff.
    People deliberately disconnected the DC that were attempting to take BRK.
    Then at Arrius the lag was so bad it was helping EP hold their keep.
    Now this wouldn't be a call out but this was the second keep we tried to take from them.
    Ping going going to the 300+ and crazy numbers of desync.
    All which apparently is only helping the EP.

    This comes down to the part if you had game masters,
    you could be aware of this and I wouldn't have to make a post.

    THE ALT CODE of DC
    https://clips.twitch.tv/VastChillySageOSfrog-rr-CFW9oNRSSvyNn

    DC ALT CODED
    https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicBrightInternPartyTime-impkWDtp4PRunhEu

    RETURNING PROOF OF ALT CODE
    https://clips.twitch.tv/HelplessSingleKuduChocolateRain-0Jd_qcMAqHTKb7jT

    Now if this isn't an alt code ,
    you still see it's a deliberate disconnect by EP on DC.


    Perhaps the DC ballgroups have gathered too much in one place.
    Or you just attacked EP with DC and AD.
    Cyrodiil creates an insane lag when the three alliances come together in one place.
  • VaranisArano
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    Soul_Demon wrote: »
    Its not . Buggy code
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The first video was the streamers fault. You never ride into a keep under attack or you will most likely get disconnected since all the assets haven’t loaded in yet.

    The second video said ep disconnected all of dc meanwhile there are several dc fighting in the keep.

    The third video showing him load into the game doesn’t show anything at all.

    Sounds like a normal night in cyro and no indication of cheating. This patch brought back disconnects, blue screens, and even more desyncs so no amount of game masters or blaming other players will fix that.


    First off riding into a keep does not "disconnect you due to all the assets haven't loaded in" .
    The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting.
    The third shows how many EP were unaffected and are possible perpetrators of the incident.


    Look clearly from both your post you have an objective mindset.
    You can't determine which exactly happened, because you're not looking for it.
    You said it yourself in your previous post that you believe its servers.
    We get that you believe that , so no mater how many clips I post you wouldn't believe it.
    This is close minded thinking.
    That being said you should probably leave that kind of determination to professionals.

    There a a few problems with what you say here is 'proof' ......the most obvious is you on a stream 'saying' something is happening is not proof at all.

    For the other things that dont quite make sense "The second video clearly shows only a few of us made it back in when i did and all the ep still in game waiting." So you say after a disconnect the players madly log back in and you and others had to ride all the way back to the keep where EP were waiting, and also where they likely crashed out too----ride in, was already there. You may have also simply 'appeared' where the game last had you as you transitioned into the 'area' of the keep. Regardless, because they were where they crashed out before you, doesn't mean someone pushed some crash button. This is basic crash procedure, force crash game and log back in- 99% of the time you appear exactly where the game last had you located.

    Yep. It's my experience that most times I disconnect while inside a keep, I'm still in that keep when I log back in.

    There's been some really awkward moments when I crashed just as EP was making a big push into the inner floor of a DC keep, and then all EP died and DC buttoned the keep back up. Then I'm logging back on and the game plops me into the inside of the now DC-owned inner keep with the door all repaired, and a bunch of DC players looking at me like "WTF is this EP player doing here? Kill them!"

    Whereas if I crash while running to a keep, who knows where my last "known location" was where the game will log me back in? Judging by the frozen players I sometimes run past, I disconnected from the server long before my client recognizes it.
  • L_Nici
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    I am usually AD and a similar thing happened not to long ago near Alessia (Gray Host, EU). The EP Faction zerg came in and at once all AD disconnected, as I relogged AD was on 2 Bars (I guess because Alessia is always a pretty big fight between yellow and red), while DC and EP poplocked, even though it was primetime and all factions were locked just a few moments ago. As the AD were finally in again people complained that they got kicked from the server at Alessia and only those who were at Alessia and Alessia itself of course was red.

    Also there still is this weird slowmotion bug going on, and its usually onesided. I saw it a few times that one faction starts to lag and slingshot back, while the other is completely unaffected. That happened to me also just with EP as enemies, could be pure chance, but there as well it seems like one side is overloaded with Serverinformation on purpose, similar to what ballgroups create by using so many effects at once that in that case everyone in their parameter lags out even the own alliance.
    Edited by L_Nici on 27 March 2021 23:28
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  • Ackwalan
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    Like other people said. When a large fight is in progress, any newcomer to the fight, has to sneak up on the lag monster.
  • JobooAGS
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    So then, if you can't go to a keep without getting disconnected, then what is the solution? Not to go where a fight is? Kinda defeats the purpose don't you think.
  • AureleosRex
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    Welcome to faction stacking and ball groups.
  • Shmoopy
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    This probably would be taken a tiny bit more seriously if it wasn't coming from you, who screams exploit at every opportunity possible.

    I would be very surprised if you weren't put on a blacklist due to the sheer the number of false reports you send in to ZoS on the daily
  • ZOS_ConnorG
    Greetings all,

    After review we have closed this thread as it is not very constructive and has a high potential to devolve into arguments and hostility. Additionally in the event you see someone in game you believe is in violation of our Terms of Service please report them using the in game function for investigation and review. Making accusations against players on the forums is can easily lead to harassment and is in violation of our community rules.

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