If the style of armor means that much to you, take the time to level your crafting and create whatever style of armor you want, or find someone that can craft it for you. Letting everyone switch armor style to whatever they want all the time defeats the purpose of crafting in specific styles.

@the two respondees:
Well, crafting is nice (and I am leveling it) - but obviously I would like to wear the stuff I get as quest rewards and loot too. Following your "just craft it" logic we could completely erase quest rewards and loot from the game, no!?

Okawango wrote: »

@the two respondees:
Well, crafting is nice (and I am leveling it) - but obviously I would like to wear the stuff I get as quest rewards and loot too. Following your "just craft it" logic we could completely erase quest rewards and loot from the game, no!?

Well, as a crafter, I'm wholly comfortable with PvE armor/weapon loot rewards being erased from the game. It's an absolutely horrible idea, and I hope the devs never even consider such a thing, but I wouldn't complain. I could care less about PvE looted gear. Unlike a lot of other posters here, at least I'm able to admit when something's a bad idea, even when I like it.

As for your logic, are you implying that (since dropped loot will probably be better than crafted loot) that we erase crafting from the game?

That's a rhetorical question; Simply making the point that your example is a bit extreme. In most of the MMOs I've seen, when people are moving from one tier to the next in raiding, their armor most often looks a bit haphazard and messy. But those people inherently care more about the stats than the looks.

I am making the same mistakes over and over again when I post these comments; I (mistakenly) assume people will use a little basic common sense when reading (and replying) to my comments.

Normally, at this point, I would try to clarify my comment with an exacting amount of detail, covering each and every pedantic counter-argument that could possibly be posed, so that there would be no confusion as to the point I was originally trying to make.

Unfortunately:
1) People who respond would most likely "quote" me out of context, fail to understand the big picture, and use either opinions or flat-out insults to undermine my statements

2) It's late, and I feel like playing (and enjoying) the game instead of attempting to argue with anyone at this hour. I'm sure I'll come back here and chime in with more detail tomorrow or the next day. Either that, or I'll get bored with the topic as a whole, and ignore it.

LadyInTheWater wrote: »

Well, as a crafter, I'm wholly comfortable with PvE armor/weapon loot rewards being erased from the game. It's an absolutely horrible idea, and I hope the devs never even consider such a thing, but I wouldn't complain. I could care less about PvE looted gear. Unlike a lot of other posters here, at least I'm able to admit when something's a bad idea, even when I like it.

May not be a great idea to implement in a game like this, but it can work very well in a game which is designed this way from the start. Personally I would love to see another good MMO where everything is crafted and there are no world drops.

As it stands, I don't use most dropped gear in this game at the moment, I don't really need it for the stats, and I would rather have a matching set of armour

While I am a big fan of vanity and customization in games, the way presented above is not the way to do it. A simple 'convert to x' would make motif books absolutely useless and probably annoy a large portion of crafters trying to collect those sets. However, a better way could be to allow a 'Reconstruct Style' option within the crafting menus, which would still require the knowledge of motif books and the correct type of item to do so (aldamite, nickel, flint etc). And should be available early on crafting ie. Not requiring skill points. And racial style would depend upon the item level so you arent stuck with just the first styles.
Still may not be perfect but would certainly give everyone the option to change their gear without making part of the game useless imo. Would also not force anyone to set points in crafting to change the styles on dropped gear.

I would love to be able to "reforge" existing items to have a new look...

Until we can craft cloth jerkins, YES, I want to be able to change the style of dropped items.
In the rare occasions when I drop a cloth jerkin I would like to pick the style.

What I'd like is the ability for crafters to change an item into a different style, it costs resources to do, but we can do it. How my character looks is always a big issue for me in MMOs, dunno why it just bugs me if they look like a rainbow.

It wouldn't hurt to allow us to keep an item style as well, the mid level Imperial chest and shoulders looked great mixed with wood elf feet, legs and arms. The latter imperial stuff just looked naff though, I really didn't like it.

This is why you level crafting, and make your own armor

its just too bad that some set items are kinda much better than crafted set items... something they need to set out to change fast.

I don't think the imp edition should have had that feature either. The items that drop in the world or are gotten from quests need to stay just how they look and remain unchangeable.

A dye system would be nice however.

I haven't explored everywhere yet, but I think I would like to see a vendor (or dare I say cash shop) where you can buy costumes akin to some of the disguises we wear, but themed around an armor type, tier, and racial style.

I mentioned this to my guild, I would like to be able to change to any style I currently own, but a lot of people disagree and I respect that opinion and do not expect ZOS to cater specifically to my wants/needs.