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[Bug] Health Set 5 Piece Bonus Using Weapon Swap. Green Pact, Plague Doctor

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I'm talking about Green Pact or Plague Doctor 5th piece bonus. If you use the weapons and shield for this set and want the 5th piece Health Bonus on both bars it doesn't work. The bar swap resets the health bonus and then you have to regen the health back. So every time you swap bars you lose the bonus.
  • whitebeard00
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    Yeah, sucks... had the same thing happen on a new build. Every time I swapped (using Trainee/Plague) I went from 70k health to 55k health (though my character stats remain constant). Any news on this zos?
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Split the weapons up. 4 body (minus head and shoulders for monster set) and 3 jewellery 1 body. Then do one of each set for the weapons. That should stop that from happening.
  • code65536
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    This isn't new. Nor is it unique to these sets. And it's a pretty well-known problem.

    Bar swapping works by un-equipping the weapons/shields on your first bar and then equipping the weapons/shields on your back bar. This means that you are, for a brief moment, losing all of the bonuses conferred by your weapons/shields. This includes set bonuses and enchantments.

    As a result...
    1. You cannot use Twice-Born Star on a weapon/shield slot because you'll lose your second Mundus stone on bar swap and will then have to go physically reacquire it.
    2. Any max health/mag/stam set bonuses and enchantments will be lost and then re-acquired, causing a loss in current resources that must then be regenned back (or healed back). This is more noticeable with large bonuses like Plague Doctor, Hulking Draugr, or Necropotence.
    3. You should never use Ebon weapons/shields because you'll be subjecting your entire group to this problem each time you bar swap.

    The way bar swaps work in ESO is stupid, but it's not an easy problem to fix because it means completely reworking how bar swaps work. It's why this problem has been around since time immemorial. Just be careful when planning your builds that you avoid certain types bonuses for weapons/shield slots.
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  • sebban
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    code65536 wrote: »
    1. You should never use Ebon weapons/shields because you'll be subjecting your entire group to this problem each time you bar swap.

    The problem is even bigger with Ebon, since the group buff is only active on one bar. It works on yourself on both bars, but only on one bar for the rest of the group.
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  • Universe
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    I have encountered this bug(while using Plauge Doctor set).
    5x health bonus of Plauge Doctor set gets reset when the player swap weapons.
    If this happens during combat, it is very difficult to recover.

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can you please fix it ?
    It would be appreciated.
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  • Waffennacht
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  • Duukar
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    Same thing happened to me with my trainee sets. I wish I had done some reasearch before wasting my time getting these.
  • Carl-lan
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    I've just run into this same problem and also reported this bug.
    code65536 wrote: »
    1. You cannot use Twice-Born Star on a weapon/shield slot because you'll lose your second Mundus stone on bar swap and will then have to go physically reacquire it.
    2. Any max health/mag/stam set bonuses and enchantments will be lost and then re-acquired, causing a loss in current resources that must then be regenned back (or healed back). This is more noticeable with large bonuses like Plague Doctor, Hulking Draugr, or Necropotence.

    I just tested Twice Born Star using the same set-up - 4 on body, 1 on each weapon. I ran max stam mundus and stam recovery mundus. When I bar swapped, I didn't lose any of them. Both numbers on character sheet were exactly the same and the buffs were indicated as being active. You'll lose it if one of the weapons is not twice born star, but running both TBS on front and back does not remove the effect when swapping, which is the way the other sets should work as well.

    You shouldn't lose 5k health if you're running the exact same 5 piece on both bars.
  • Kronos_Ice
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    Hello,

    I am also having this problem.

    I thought I'd optimize my tank and spend nearly 100k getting new stuff, including plague doctor.

    Little did I know your 5 set piece bonus removes and resets at every weapon swap. What a pointless build.

    I hope this is a bug.
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  • EvilEmpire
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    holy ***, this sucks. I just revived my tank, and am using training/plague all golded out.
    I'm even using the exact same wep/sheild on both bars (one of each set). @ZOS_JessicaFolsom is this even being looked at?

    I get what other people are saying where it's technically unequipping then re-equpping, but this is a ridiculous mechanic especially when so noticable.
  • AzuraKin
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    code65536 wrote: »
    This isn't new. Nor is it unique to these sets. And it's a pretty well-known problem.

    Bar swapping works by un-equipping the weapons/shields on your first bar and then equipping the weapons/shields on your back bar. This means that you are, for a brief moment, losing all of the bonuses conferred by your weapons/shields. This includes set bonuses and enchantments.

    As a result...
    1. You cannot use Twice-Born Star on a weapon/shield slot because you'll lose your second Mundus stone on bar swap and will then have to go physically reacquire it.
    2. Any max health/mag/stam set bonuses and enchantments will be lost and then re-acquired, causing a loss in current resources that must then be regenned back (or healed back). This is more noticeable with large bonuses like Plague Doctor, Hulking Draugr, or Necropotence.
    3. You should never use Ebon weapons/shields because you'll be subjecting your entire group to this problem each time you bar swap.

    The way bar swaps work in ESO is stupid, but it's not an easy problem to fix because it means completely reworking how bar swaps work. It's why this problem has been around since time immemorial. Just be careful when planning your builds that you avoid certain types bonuses for weapons/shield slots.

    lol i have used tbs on weapons and have not lost the mundus stone, you only lose 5p effect if you go from 5p to 4p. i.e. dw/sb to 2hd weapon.
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  • Cimadon
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    I posted in another thread, but this is really annoying and I want to see it fixed. At least make us bat swap without switching weapons then.
  • StormAdvisory
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    I golded out both plauge doctor and green pact, then figured this out... kinda pisses you off and makes the sets useless.
  • Altercator
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    ouch.
  • Cimadon
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    Iv'e altered my build a little, so I don't have to switch bars. Hurts a little because I have to choose between heroic slash and backlash. :/
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