Halfwitte wrote: »

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

Yakidafi wrote: »

Is a PvE player, go and tries the new PvP content instead of the PvE content...

Isnt all the new pve content pvp enabled except dungeons?

Affirmative.

And OP ZOS is currently giggling at the predicament you face, because they have already stated they intended it be a adrenaline pumping gank fest.

yep i agree, they stated that and laughed about it, but iam affaird they are not getting what they want, last night i was in and all i seen was trains running around, that what simple happens when you incourage ganking like zos has

JD2013 wrote: »

Nephys wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Everyone calm your jimmies. Orsinium will be here in time for Christmas and you can PVE again.

I think you have missed the point. A large percentage of the complaints have nothing to do with this being a PvP DLC, but the way ZoS have dealt with the non-dungeon PvE elements of it. Frankly they might well have done better leaving PvE elements out of IC completely, but ZoS giggling like juvenile fools when talking about it did not help the situation.

Then if I may ask, with all total respect of course, how would you personally have implemented PVE in the piddle of a PVP zone?

It is exactly the same as Cyrodiil normal quests. You have the same threat of being killed doing those as you do in IC.

i would say do what other mmo's do, have a flagging system and flag ur self for pvp or not

Syntse wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

And I keep hearing about this giggling dev video, but have no idea what people are talking about.

Guess this would be it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8_KGHqmO4

I've seen that before. There is supposed to be one from a game stream where devs are giggling about how IC will be a gankfest slaughterhouse. Or so people keep saying.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

i would say do what other mmo's do, have a flagging system and flag ur self for pvp or not

^THIS! In DCUO, you could flag yourself as PvP in open world or unflag to just PvE without threats of being attacked. This allowed BOTH types of players to enjoy content THEIR WAY. This was supposedly how the Justice system was supposed to work- but apparently they can't figure out how to implement PvP in PvE areas... they must not understand the whole 'flag' option that other MMOs offer. This would solve the problem in Cyrodiil by offering players options of whether to participate in the PvP aspect or just the PvE content if they wished. However, I believe the PvP side is so lacking in player population, that they are doing whatever they can to try and force more players into it, hoping that some will try it and like it. I don't see that happening, in fact, quite the opposite. By not giving players options and instead trying to funnel them into content they don't enjoy, will drive them away from that content even more.

While I am all for PvP getting new content, I, personally, am looking forward to future PvE content. From all indications of future titles coming to ESO, I don't see anything for PvP in the immediate future- perhaps next fall? Unless they throw PvPers a bone with some content in Brotherhood or Thieves Guild; perhaps that is when they will finally get the Justice system working 'as intended'.

ADarklore wrote: »

^THIS! In DCUO, you could flag yourself as PvP in open world or unflag to just PvE without threats of being attacked. This allowed BOTH types of players to enjoy content THEIR WAY. This was supposedly how the Justice system was supposed to work- but apparently they can't figure out how to implement PvP in PvE areas... they must not understand the whole 'flag' option that other MMOs offer. This would solve the problem in Cyrodiil by offering players options of whether to participate in the PvP aspect or just the PvE content if they wished. However, I believe the PvP side is so lacking in player population, that they are doing whatever they can to try and force more players into it, hoping that some will try it and like it. I don't see that happening, in fact, quite the opposite. By not giving players options and instead trying to funnel them into content they don't enjoy, will drive them away from that content even more.

While I am all for PvP getting new content, I, personally, am looking forward to future PvE content. From all indications of future titles coming to ESO, I don't see anything for PvP in the immediate future- perhaps next fall? Unless they throw PvPers a bone with some content in Brotherhood or Thieves Guild; perhaps that is when they will finally get the Justice system working 'as intended'.

You are assuming that there was a requirements phase where they did a survey of common problems of other MMOs before entering that market. I have counted numerous cases where hard fought lessons learned by others could have helped...

I'm laughing and waiting till CC'd enemies that slide around the battlefield gets more press... How was that assassin able to drag talons 30 feet?

ADarklore wrote: »

This was supposedly how the Justice system was supposed to work- but apparently they can't figure out how to implement PvP in PvE areas... they must not understand the whole 'flag' option that other MMOs offer.

When they talked about the PvP aspect of the Justice System they talked about Enforcers wearing a special tabard. If you commit a crime and get a bounty, you would be flagged for Justice System PvP. If you are an Enforcer with your tabard on, you would be flagged for PvP.

As for Cyro, the premise is that to get there you sign up for the army of your Alliance. You aren't a civilian. If you don't want to be a target stay out of the war zone. There is one zone and one minizone for PvP, the rest of the game (including all known/hinted at future expansions) are PvE.