Cloak=useless

Cody · January 2015

Yes, we have all seen this. I am only doing this because the latest thread on it in the alliance war section is old and needs a re-do.

I will continue making these thread's until cloak gets fixed, I don't care if it borders on the edge of trolling/spamming or not.

cloak is useless....broken by almost everything... ect....etc... y'all know the drill.

AlexDougherty · January 2015

Yes, it needs fixing or reworking entirely.

Darthryan · January 2015

I agree. Its crap. Been playing a dk and guess what...... all its ablities work all the time. Haven't been close to death once in pve yet. My nb on the other hand is almost close to death on most fights because of this horrible cloak.

Thejollygreenone · January 2015

I hope it's very possible that some rework/fixing to cloak might come about in 1.6, it's such a large patch and ZoS has mentioned they're trying to look at each and every ability this patch to make sure everything is running with intended effectiveness.

While we can all have our doubts about any of it, at least one can cling to the hope of a best case scenario in which some large improvements are made to cloak in 1.6.

Cody · January 2015

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

I hope it's very possible that some rework/fixing to cloak might come about in 1.6, it's such a large patch and ZoS has mentioned they're trying to look at each and every ability this patch to make sure everything is running with intended effectiveness.

While we can all have our doubts about any of it, at least one can cling to the hope of a best case scenario in which some large improvements are made to cloak in 1.6.

they better have a fix for cloak in 1.6. Otherwise NBs everywhere will not be happy

AlexDougherty · January 2015

Cody wrote: »

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

I hope it's very possible that some rework/fixing to cloak might come about in 1.6, it's such a large patch and ZoS has mentioned they're trying to look at each and every ability this patch to make sure everything is running with intended effectiveness.

While we can all have our doubts about any of it, at least one can cling to the hope of a best case scenario in which some large improvements are made to cloak in 1.6.

they better have a fix for cloak in 1.6. Otherwise NBs everywhere will not be happy

We can but hope, I have just got my nightblade to level 50/VR1, and still haven't use it, because I've read about the bugs.

Cody · January 2015

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

I hope it's very possible that some rework/fixing to cloak might come about in 1.6, it's such a large patch and ZoS has mentioned they're trying to look at each and every ability this patch to make sure everything is running with intended effectiveness.

While we can all have our doubts about any of it, at least one can cling to the hope of a best case scenario in which some large improvements are made to cloak in 1.6.

they better have a fix for cloak in 1.6. Otherwise NBs everywhere will not be happy

We can but hope, I have just got my nightblade to level 50/VR1, and still haven't use it, because I've read about the bugs.

DO NOT use it at it's current state. I have recently dropped it, and I actually do BETTER(at least in PvP) because of it. It breaks at least half the time, and the few times it does NOT break on cast, it will not last the full 2.9(why not just make it 3.... ZOS!!! you confuse me!!1:/) seconds. Use something else until it get's fixed if you want my advice.

AlexDougherty · January 2015

Cody wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

I hope it's very possible that some rework/fixing to cloak might come about in 1.6, it's such a large patch and ZoS has mentioned they're trying to look at each and every ability this patch to make sure everything is running with intended effectiveness.

While we can all have our doubts about any of it, at least one can cling to the hope of a best case scenario in which some large improvements are made to cloak in 1.6.

they better have a fix for cloak in 1.6. Otherwise NBs everywhere will not be happy

We can but hope, I have just got my nightblade to level 50/VR1, and still haven't use it, because I've read about the bugs.

DO NOT use it at it's current state. I have recently dropped it, and I actually do BETTER(at least in PvP) because of it. It breaks at least half the time, and the few times it does NOT break on cast, it will not last the full 2.9(why not just make it 3.... ZOS!!! you confuse me!!1:/) seconds. Use something else until it get's fixed if you want my advice.

I know, as I said I've read about the bugs, and as a result have avoided it completely.

DDuke · January 2015

List of things that break cloak:

DoT effect on enemy. I can confirm atleast for Lethal Injection (Rank 3)
Shielded Assault, Ambush, Critical Rush
Incoming projectiles (randomly happens)
Flag NPCs nearby always break it

All this along with things that are "working as intended":

DoTs (Dark Cloak sometimes negates this, but for instance Velocious Curse still breaks it)
AoE (nothing wrong here IMO, it can be avoided & opponent who breaks it with AoE needs some skill to pull that off)
Magelight/Stealth Detection potions (neither should break cloak in my opinion, leads to "broken" & frustrating gameplay, where you spam cloak only to have it break every time, only draining your magicka - instead of responsive & action/skill oriented gameplay)

I've lost the count of how many months this has been an issue. Could we get an update on the status for fixes, @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

cozmon3c_ESO · January 2015

I recently took up night blades and got him to 24, i pvp on a sorc alot mainly. I have a good way to fix this ability. It needs to act like a dodge roll. All incoming damage misses, like arrows and charges. You should still be hit by aoes like dodge roll and still be uncloaked by dots if you didn't pick the morph that removes a negative effect. I believe this will fix the issues with this ability, as most the time i was uncloaked was by a projectile or charge while I was cloaked for 1 second already while they travel. This will keep the game balanced and fix unblocking from stuff that shouldn't hit you when you put cloak up. If you know you have 2 dots on you, you have to hit shadow cloak twice to get away. It will save my stamina too as I won't have to dodge roll just to hope I dropped those projectiles before I cloak. Just my two cents, seems like an easy fix to me.

AlexDougherty · January 2015

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

I recently took up night blades and got him to 24, i pvp on a sorc alot mainly. I have a good way to fix this ability. It needs to act like a dodge roll. All incoming damage misses, like arrows and charges. You should still be hit by aoes like dodge roll and still be uncloaked by dots if you didn't pick the morph that removes a negative effect. I believe this will fix the issues with this ability, as most the time i was uncloaked was by a projectile or charge while I was cloaked for 1 second already while they travel. This will keep the game balanced and fix unblocking from stuff that shouldn't hit you when you put cloak up. If you know you have 2 dots on you, you have to hit shadow cloak twice to get away. It will save my stamina too as I won't have to dodge roll just to hope I dropped those projectiles before I cloak. Just my two cents, seems like an easy fix to me.

Hist bark set with 5 pieces is your friend there, it has a 10% miss chance for any attack that would hit you. (not sure about spells, but definately weapons).

I just got my Nightblade to VR1 with that and allessia's bulwark for the other four pieces (two pieces of armour and two weapons).

Tamanous · January 2015

Small fights I rarely notice it glitching but against tough mobs that take a while to kill I must day cloak is near useless. It some times take 3-4 casts for it to work where the mob isn't still beating on and facing you.

This is a no dot build.

Lynnessa · January 2015

I wouldn't call it useless... just glitchy. I have used it many times to escape with my life in PvP. And for PvE, like I've mentioned elsewhere, it's pretty essential for the way I play, and I do fine. I really only replace it when I have to provide healing support in dungeons.

Edit: I spend most of my time questing (still only vr6, I haven't even finished Cadwell's Silver yet) or in veteran dungeons. And Cloak stays on my bar almost all the time.