Do you Believe Lack of Inventory Space May Cause Some Cancellations?

DarkWombat

Lets face it; this is the bottom line. If people unsub for something like this and Zenimax loses money, it will be fixed.

What Zenimax has failed to understand is that we all get that they placed a soft cap on professions by limiting inventory space. I get this for EACH character. But it makes no sense for shared storage. Shared storage should have hundreds of empty slots.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

No

Are you kidding? There is so much potential space its not even funny. People need to manage there junk better not add more slots, when you have bag improvements, bank improvements, horses out the ass, you have plenty.

DarkWombat

Yes

People want to play an MMO, not play inventory Tetris.

DarkWombat

Yes

And my poll question isn't based on if YOU will cancel. Read it again. DO you think OTHER players will cancel? So choose carefully because if you were honest and saw all the complaints this should be an 80% figure.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

No

DarkWombat wrote: »

People want to play an MMO, not play inventory Tetris.

You want an easy mode no intelligence needing mmo. Sorry but this isnt an mmo for your typical wow-clone lover.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

No

DarkWombat wrote: »

And my poll question isn't based on if YOU will cancel. Read it again. DO you think OTHER players will cancel? So choose carefully because if you were honest and saw all the complaints this should be an 80% figure.

No it isnt you asked will it cause cancellations

Brennan

Maybe

I like how you bias the poll with your commentary. At any rate, if people cancel their sub over the inventory then that is as it should be. It is not possible to make everyone happy especially in the community of MMO gamers. Those who can deal will stay and those who can't deal will move on to something that better meets their needs. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

MysticAura

If it does, those people have issues. Not to mention it's very early in the games life and I'm sure there will be more storage available later on. It may be a challenge trying to stay organized, but to quit a game over something so small, is rather extremist and self defeating.

DarkWombat

Yes

You want an easy mode no intelligence needing mmo. Sorry but this isnt an mmo for your typical wow-clone lover.

And there it is, how cliche of you. Through the years I have discovered that the people who tell other people "go play wow" are actually less intelligent.

Since when does bag space = an intelligent MMO. Your comments are the worst I have seen in 20 years of internet messages boards, and that is saying something.

DarkWombat

Yes

No it isnt you asked will it cause cancellations

My point still stands, I never said "WILL YOU CANCEL"

Mansome

Yes

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Are you kidding? There is so much potential space its not even funny. People need to manage there junk better not add more slots, when you have bag improvements, bank improvements, horses out the ass, you have plenty.

If we are doing it wrong then please enlighten us as to how we should do our inventory then? I have a main and 6 alts I am using as mules just to hold most of the stuff. I have bought all the upgrades I can afford for my level of income and still there is no where near enough room. I am about to start an 8th character just to try to get more space.

Mansome

Yes

DarkWombat wrote: »

People want to play an MMO, not play inventory Tetris.

agreed, managing inventory takes so much of my time now that I really cant quest for long periods of time before I have to shuffle everything again.

Mansome

Yes

I wont cancel but I definitely think some people will. Crafting mats need to either be separate or the bank base amount needs to a massive increase. This is just insane.

LadyInTheWater

No

I clicked "No" on the poll, but I'll explain that:

My true answer is actually "Maybe". Yes, maybe people will cancel their sub because of bank space. It's wholly possible. Heck, it's even possible that people will cancel their sub because they love the bank space, but they're sick of seeing threads about people wanting more bank space.

Yes, anything's possible.

Why did I click "No"? Because I follow a lot of politics. And there's nothing worse than a blanket poll like this. If there are enough "Maybe" and "Yes" votes, people would (mistakenly) use that as "evidence" that the community needs more bank space, and that's just not true. The bank/bag space is fine (I haven't even upgraded my bags/bank yet), and the people who leave are people who are more interested in their items than their community. I honestly won't mind seeing them go.

I've seen/heard/read enough political rhetoric in my time to recognize a flawed poll when I see one. Very manipulative.

Brennan

Maybe

LadyInTheWater wrote: »

I clicked "No" on the poll, but I'll explain that:

My true answer is actually "Maybe". Yes, maybe people will cancel their sub because of bank space. It's wholly possible. Heck, it's even possible that people will cancel their sub because they love the bank space, but they're sick of seeing threads about people wanting more bank space.

Yes, anything's possible.

Why did I click "No"? Because I follow a lot of politics. And there's nothing worse than a blanket poll like this. If there are enough "Maybe" and "Yes" votes, people would (mistakenly) use that as "evidence" that the community needs more bank space, and that's just not true. The bank/bag space is fine (I haven't even upgraded my bags/bank yet), and the people who leave are people who are more interested in their items than their community. I honestly won't mind seeing them go.

I've seen/heard/read enough political rhetoric in my time to recognize a flawed poll when I see one. Very manipulative.

I would add that a poll on these forums is not indicative of an accurate sampling. The people on the forum are people with something to complain about and those of us that defend the status quo. My guess is that most people are actually playing the game rather than complaining about inventory space and are largely getting along fine with it as is.

DarkWombat

Yes

I would add that a poll on these forums is not indicative of an accurate sampling. The people on the forum are people with something to complain about and those of us that defend the status quo. My guess is that most people are actually playing the game rather than complaining about inventory space and are largely getting along fine with it as is.

Oh I see it the other way around. Losing those "silent" subscribers is where it hurts the most. I am sure there are plenty of players who aren't on these forums who have thought that the lack of inventory space as an issue. Common sense has to tell us this. It is a very obvious issue. ESPECIALLY for Elder Scrolls fans who are used to hoarding a lot. I mean, to limit inventory in an MMO game is bad enough but an ELDER SCROLLS game? Where there are boxes, chests, drawers everywhere to loot? Bad idea.

Imryll

Maybe

LadyInTheWater wrote: »

If there are enough "Maybe" and "Yes" votes, people would (mistakenly) use that as "evidence" that the community needs more bank space, and that's just not true. The bank/bag space is fine (I haven't even upgraded my bags/bank yet), and the people who leave are people who are more interested in their items than their community. I honestly won't mind seeing them go.

Right. Something isn't important to me so folks don't need it. Guess that means we don't need Adventure Zones, because Imryll isn't particularly interested in them. Or maybe, just maybe the game needs to include content that serves different types of players.

Abeille

Yes

I do, which is not the same as saying that I think it is a good reason for it.
Some people are just like that. If they find something that they dislike in a game, they leave, no matter how minor that thing might be.
Also, what is minor for you and me might be a huge deal for someone else. For example, I seriously doubt that anyone else hates the limitations on hair colors as much as I do and they probably think that I am a whiny brat for complaining about it all the time.

DarkWombat

Yes

I've seen/heard/read enough political rhetoric in my time to recognize a flawed poll when I see one. Very manipulative.

No you've maybe seen too much of it to where it has flawed your thought process and you think all polls are wrong. You are over-thinking it.

Xnemesis

No

All the people who are saying it will cause people to cancel are probably the same ones who have a bank full of provisioning items, trait stones, and racial stones lol SMDH keep what you need and loot what you need. Why do you have iron bars when you are crafting ebony items? Clean it out from time to time and you wont have these issues!

Brennan

Maybe

Imryll wrote: »

LadyInTheWater wrote: »

If there are enough "Maybe" and "Yes" votes, people would (mistakenly) use that as "evidence" that the community needs more bank space, and that's just not true. The bank/bag space is fine (I haven't even upgraded my bags/bank yet), and the people who leave are people who are more interested in their items than their community. I honestly won't mind seeing them go.

Right. Something isn't important to me so folks don't need it. Guess that means we don't need Adventure Zones, because Imryll isn't particularly interested in them. Or maybe, just maybe the game needs to include content that serves different types of players.

Inventory space is not content. No one will ever make everyone happy. People will have to choose whether this is something they can deal with and stay on board or decide that it just isn't worth their $15.00/mo and go somewhere else that meets their inventory space needs.

People want to be able to choose to hold on to every thing they pick up. What they're upset about is the consequences of that choice.

gothickaiserub17_ESO

No

Kind of a Loaded question, do I think someone will claim its there reason for quitting "Yes" do I think if their are a million plus subs, half a dozen people might quit, "sure" but at the same time is the question do i think they would stay and be full time active productive players who would have absolutely called this MMO there home otherwise (some might say yes) but honestly "No" even if it is true on the crazy chance (those people might have some other problems) it will be what maybe 2 or 3 of thousands to millions?

Had the question been "A relevant number of people" the answer is "No". However making a pull that asks such a question if people answer honestly "Sure Someone might leave for that reason" then you have "Facts" to point to your loaded poll to try n tell Zenimax that its "clearly" the reason and it needs fixing.

Also as a Side note they didn't fail to realize anything, they FULLY INTENDED you to not do all professions at once, so that you had to mingle with players in their worlds, its an MMO.

AresSilverthorn

Yes

DarkWombat wrote: »

People want to play an MMO, not play inventory Tetris.

If I were to make an argument using a metric to show if this is a problem, then I'd use the time spent in the game JUST FUTZING with inventory space. And the result, is, an unqualified YES, I do spend too much time managing inventory. Now, I do participate deeply in crafting; Clothing, BS, Alch, Wood, Cooking. So that tells you right there I am going to have a nightmare with space. But if we're going to be allowed to level all crafts, then I have to be afforded some feasible inventory system, even though I think it's fine to require players to spend gold to increase it. But here's the problem - I've been selling items, including motifs and drops, to support one habit and one habit only - space. Tens of thousands of gold, all my first gold, has gone to ONE piece of this game, getting more space. That's it. If one simple change was made to help out, I think we'd be ok, and that's not requiring shared bank space between toons. I want a shared space I can pick up items between toons, but sharing the total space is really stupid imo. I am also not cool with being forced to spend all my first gold into space if I want to craft moderately or more simply because I won't want to farm the old low level areas later on simply because space didn't allow for it.

I really like this game, and if I didn't, yea... the space nightmare would make me cancel my sub.

flameweaver

Yes

I voted yes, partially because I know people have already left because of this, partially because I've frequently criticised the "porting" of a single player mechanic into an MMO forcing the need to micro manage inventory and partially because it is one the of my personal considerations in deciding to renew my 6 month sub or not. I'll give it till then for this to be fixed.

Imryll

Maybe

Of course inventory space is content--just like hairstyles and dungeons are content. You think maybe it's chopped liver? It's even relatively inexpensive content. Being unable to please everyone doesn't mean that developers should ignore opportunities to make their game more enjoyable.

I'm not aware of anyone who wants to hold on to everything they pick up. Certainly, I don't. Meaningless generality is meaningless.

Cascade_V

Yes

Some people like to play Storagecraft...

I don't.

Brennan

Maybe

Well to those that leave because they find it too difficult to manage their inventory I will just say, "Have fun playing whatever game you choose to play after you leave and good luck!"

Imryll

Maybe

Brennan wrote: »

Well to those that leave because they find it too difficult to manage their inventory I will just say, "Have fun playing whatever game you choose to play after you leave and good luck!"

You're almost there! Just change "too difficult" to "tedious" ...

huntgod_ESO

Maybe

I said maybe...

Storage space is too tight at the moment, and though there is the option of increasing it a bit, it still caps at a claustrophobic level.

Even if I wanted to throw additional gold at it I couldn't.

I'd also like to see the guild space pushed back up to 1000, I help run a relatively large and generous guild, I spend an hour each night cleaning up the bank since items often do not stack and have to be withdrawn, combined and redeposited. I get to play maybe 3-4 hours if I am lucky and 1 third of that time is managing personal and guild inventories.

Thechemicals

No

if you have the potential to quit because of inventory space than you will eventually just quit no matter what the issue is. Find another game.

Santiago

Yes

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Are you kidding? There is so much potential space its not even funny. People need to manage there junk better not add more slots, when you have bag improvements, bank improvements, horses out the ass, you have plenty.

Never ceases to amaze me how people feel the need to brown nose the developers and at the same time show their complete ignorance of how things really work.

As for the OP, great poll. Inventory slots are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to issues that will seriously harm long term playability and general enjoyment of the game. I don't know of one person that hates the inventory system in the game.

Add to that the armor degrading system, lack of a decent UI for the marketplace, guild management, no quest history, very very poor rate of return on deconstructing epic items (1 purple refine out of 10 items is effing absurd) and all the rest....

I think that Zenimax/Bethesda thinks this is Skyrimm and that player expectations should be the same. Well it's not, it's an MMO, and players are not going to settle for these overly frustrating design decisions. It's these things that take a potentially great game and turn it into a game where players go from "awesome" to "this sucks" very quickly.

It's the little things and Zenimax needs to take a serious look at how the little things are causing lot's of player frustration early on in the life of the game. Personally I love the game but I want to see these things addressed so that I can continue to enjoy it and not give up in frustration one day.