Nightblade Healer, possible?

Fidelio

Hey guys,

while we have downtime i wanted to finally know, whether its possible to be a full healer as a nightblade or not. Has anyone got any experience with it?

I've got my Nightblade to Level 20 now, and so far, the resto staff seems pretty powerful especially with light armour, but in a dungeon?

Looking forward to some serious answers, since fast fighter AND the second role as healer have always been my favorite combinations (e.g. WoW the monk, Rift Bard/Assa)

Thank you!

Kaluu

I'm also experimenting with this. Only up to lvl 8 so far. I'm sure some variation of it will be viable if the first attempt is insufficient. I'm looking at something like this:
http://skills.tesotools.com/#4og93ey09aq502o

It's less direct healing and more debuff and heal over time. If Force Siphon is not as powerful as it sounds, it may need to be swapped for Blessing of Protection, or other 'direct' heal.

Demonsthere

Hey!
From what I have seen and read on reddit, Nightblade can be actually one of the best healers, given the fact that he can shadow cloak his aggro and regain his magicka pretty fast by siphoning attacks.
A sample build (the spell configuration) could look like this:

http://esohead.com/calculator/skills#cczzvehgP18heai8heRa8hgSV8hesk8Ir4c8IOWl8IPnB8IfmY8IPyL8IrtE8IPwM8L7JcdoQr6MdoQF6MdoQC6MdoQK6MdoQJ8v7CIanU6NanW6banQ6IanX6banS8D7DNzdm6bbMz6MIsaM6MIrEh6bzdR8F7JqzrJ6bzrO6Ibut6Ibux6MIPAT6MIPAv6MIPAh8O7R68zc7zzgeXm

Fidelio

Now that certainly does look interesting, looking forward to trying something like this on my first dungeon run. Thank you!

jordan_hoffmanb14_ESO

I healed 6 dungeons repeatedly as my Argonian Nightblade healer. 12-15 dungeons and the 20-23 dungeons. About to start on the next ones. I recommend being at least minimum level so the mobs dont hit you as hard but I did heal the first dungeon at level 11

Brasseurfb16_ESO

I don't understand why people always take siphoning attacks in their nightblade Healing build?

Yes it increases your Stamina/Magicka recovery, but most of their Healing utilities are over time and low cost wich allows them to recover mana with healing staff heavy attack. not to mention siphoning attacks decreases your damage output by a multiplicative value, decreasing both the value of healing dealt with Funnel Health and restauration staff heavy attack.

Now I haven't done any elite group dongeons yet, but for what I saw, restauration staff is pretty much the only thing you need for constant magicka recovery.

Kyubi_3002b16_ESO

totaly possible i run one lvl 20

Self1sh

I might give this a try with my Argonian... Is there any general healing tips for all healers? I'm mostly curious about going full on support with only heals/CC or adding a skill or two for some added damage.

Or is the damage from the Restoration Staff going to be good enough?

Also, what armor? All light?

Fidelio

Well, i've had the pleasure of healing now 5 dungeons and it was pretty awesome. Once you have enough points into light leather and the resto staff it works quite well, only look out for light eq with magic on it.

Tip: Try to have your HOT up all the time, it costs almost no mana and heals quite a bit + attack with your staff, since magic is restored faster.

Overall its a combination of healing and moving with some attacks in between and a lot of fun!

derry

Can anyone compare a NB healer to a Templar healer?, im really not sure which to go with for dedicated dungeon healing.

Harkrider

I've played Nightblade healer for months on beta/PTS and now live, and it's undeniable that at lower levels, NB heals are amazing.

However, once you start getting into higher level content, the severe lack of burst healing becomes an issue. I'm currently at level 37 and my largest heal (Blessing of Protection) only restores ~170 health. This is roughly 10% of a tank's max health. In addition, it is cast in a frontal cone. This means that once DPS decide to start running around because something is attacking them, it becomes impossible to heal 2 or 3 locations simultaneously.

Compare that to Templars, whom at the same level, have a spammable 28 meter ranged heal which restores 450-500 health and has no frontal aiming requirement. The 'justifaction' is that this spell is expensive, however 60% of the cost is regenerated when used on targets below 50% health (which is the ONLY time the spell gets used anyways).

I'm not saying NB healer is useless, because our endurance and group heals are top notch. But we have no burst healing, which is becoming more and more of a problem as we level up and enemies begin hitting for much more damage.

jmido8

derry wrote: »

Can anyone compare a NB healer to a Templar healer?, im really not sure which to go with for dedicated dungeon healing.

If you want to be dedicated solo heals, play a templar healer. If you want to be an offhealer/support/dps, then go NB. Harkrider actually says it pretty well, NB isn't bad at healing and it can do fine, especially at lower levels, but the templar healing skill line is really powerful and breathe of blessing (powerful burst heal) makes the templar shine when it comes to dungeon healing.

At lower levels, people find templar healing hard because it's magicka hungry compared to a resto healer and is just as effective. However, once you start leveling up, managing magicka becomes really easy and templars start to shine.

Kevaliji

Lvl 47 Nightblade here, i run duel weild/Resto staff. Great single target dps with heals that can get you out of trouble. I love this build so far and plan on keeping it forever.

moowi

@Harkrider At 37, it can be hard to see how a healing build would turn out for a NB, but I promise you it gets better. You just have to layer Healing Springs or Grand Healing and do Combat Prayer or BoP.

I've played as a vampire Nightblade Healer on PTS for months now and gotten up to VR8. I'm currently VR4 on live and just healed veteran Banished Cells. If anyone has any questions, please let me know.

My PTS build can be found here: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/immoortal-a-nightblade-healer-vampire-build/

Edit: I forgot that Phazius recorded our BC run last night, so it can be found here: http://www.twitch.tv/phazius/b/518787681 and it's at 1:02:30. Then we ran it a second time right after. It was my first time ever doing vet BC, but I've healed all the dungeons from 12+ and vet FG and Spindleclutch as well.

Sgtsuspect

What would be the earliest level a nightblade could heal a dungeon? And if you don't mind, what build would that be?

Kyubi_3002b16_ESO

Templar healer my BLEEP I can heal twice as better as they do and I solo heal my instance as a nightblade! Burst heals are a waste of magicka by all mean run heal over time and shields.

Lvl 48 and still healing. my build is on the wiki AND here... I subjest you read about the blood mage because if you still think Templar is the only dedicated healer you clearly haven't seen a competent one yet x.x

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/66403/bloodmage-build-nightblade-healer#latest

http://esobuild.com/?MwbgbCCskgjAhgOlgdkY4AjEAWAZgFxiIDGsi88AHAAzAEBMNF1VApgeZSY8mGJgadEeErgZ5YVHCQyQ2DHAE4GySJOmzg8xSqAAAA==


Both the path and healing springs are good but I prefer the path as it last 10 second versus the 3 of the springs (spring better for alliance war however due to the magicka recovery)

As early as banished cells... grab yourself a restoration staff and start doing the job while laughing at those Templars who constantly waste magicka on full healing that heals way above the full health of their target and hardly prevent damage with their fully instantly healed amount wich overheal way past 100% and cost way to much magicka for nothing. My build overheal but also prevent that damage over time as eventual damage is healed during the spell duration (no magicka goes to waste!)

You need a MMo comparison to nightblade healing? The world of warcraft druid is the ideal as Nightblade is a Healing over time user wich specialise into stacking it up to the point you don't loose health at all or nearly from damage taken.

Moowi your build look quite much like a alliance war healing build mixed up with a melee attacker x.x its original but as I look it up it looks more like an assist healer with damaging purpose then a main single dungeon healer. I don't use most of the ability you listed there and run entirely on health regeneration aka Funnel health refreshing path and rapid regeneration. Rest is done with healing ward while I nuke it all with devouring swarm

90% of the damage is done with funnel health, path invigorating drain or sap essence while the major nuking is done with devouring swarm wich cooldown is ridiculously low. Considering a good half of the skill you listed there don't even heal to begin with I cant realy think of it as more then an assist healer in a dungeon party. On the other hand about every single skill on my spell bar actualy heals the team or do both damage and healing.

The moment you can cast both funnel health and regeneration you are officialy viable as a healing build. Add healing spring to that recipe and your good to go for about 99% of the in game dungeon while trolling the templars. The healing shield comes in later along with refreshing path and then you got your full build the moment you have your vampire elite skill and can nuke stuff around (yes devouring swarm isn't a support ability but its more usefull to the party then soul siphon due to its very low ultimate cost (80 versus the 150 of soul siphon) and the fact it relieves the team from summons and trash group. Of course if you wanna run soul siphon instead be my guest I just never happened to need it as my team is constantly on the overhealed mode.

Wants a healer that TRULY feels vampiric? Then try that...