So I'm trying to honestly wrap my head around the current changes made to the class with these patch notes. (I will preface what is being stated here that it will be from a PvP perspective)
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
If the update is to go live as is, this will mean that Templars will be the
only class to not have any kind of working burst ability. I've gone on the PTS and checked. Against mobs where
no battle spirit is present, the skill is capable of doing what it describes. When
battle spirit is involved, it continues to do no damage. What are these changes going to do for the health of this class when you're giving an easy source of
Major Berserk to then cause DKs to just start spamming Chains per this update with
Rush of Agony, hitting Talons, and then a leap all with Major Berserk on, which will be extremely disruptive on top of the fact that this ability cannot be dodged or reflected. Is stuff not being considered prior to hitting the pts? Is nobody aware that Rush of Agony does not activate any CC immunity? How is that just constantly being overlooked in terms of what you're capable of doing with it? When I even say this, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who isn't usually on the receiving end, but for entry level PvPers, casuals, or even some competitive groups, this being overlooked while baking in more damage for DKs in this instance is going to do more harm than good.
Try to help me understand...
Nightblades can do 5 light attacks,
get free weapon and spell damage, and have a burst ability with a crazy tooltip with their Merciless Resolve.
Dragonknights can cast 3 Ardent Flame abilities and have their Molten Whip get a very good tooltip. Don't forget they're getting
extra weapon and spell damage per stack.
Wardens? I think we're all aware of what wardens burst ability through Sub Assault/Deep Fissure can do
Necromancers even can get a decent tooltip on their Blastbones.
Sorcs can build into crit/crit damage and still have something of a working combo that can actually do some damage.
Templars? While it was hitting very hard prior to Firesong dropping, now through Firesong and as this PTS currently stands, are we as templars being told that we're not allowed to have any degree of burst damage like the other classes?
How does this make sense when we're being told to
"Play how we want", yet none of the methods of doing so seem to work. Is the damage that templar will be losing over last year and probably going into this year (based on previous updates) mean that the new class will get our old damage just like Wardens got templars access to major mending? I love the game. I play it all the time. I take time to coach RPers, PvErs, and PvPers in what happens in PvP. I'd do it for free, 80 hours a week. People with zero experience on this game, returning players who play templar, or even existing players who want to try this class out are not going to use it. If this was my first class trying out this game and I went into PvP with Backlash, I'd just delete the character because it's not capable of competing with the other toons in terms of burst.
There have been countless threads posted providing feedback relating to how Templars are feeling and this for sure feels like a slap in the face on top of the multiple slaps in the face Templar mains have gotten over the most recent updates. I'm all for change, scaling down some damage here and there, whatever. This just 100% doesn't make any sense.
Unlike a lot of others on the forums, I'm fully aware that there will be no rework to the Jabs animation, I doubt there will be any additional adjustments made to burning light at this. I can go on all day about this and you can even check my comment history on the forums. I've pretty much only started using the forums Post-Firesong and I've been on this game since 2014. I'm just trying to
"Play how I want" and seemingly am being told through these updates to just play another class, quit, or suffer.
Some Threads:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/621126/templar-underperforming/p1https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/621581/purify-power-of-the-light-u36/p1https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/625273/templar-feels-incredibly-bleh-anyone-have-a-fun-effective-build/p1https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/625384/burst-damage-and-healing-templar-stam-maghttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/615702/jab-puncturing-sweep-is-useless-in-pvp-because-of-snare-duration-nerf-damage-nerf/p1https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/622843/templar-identityhttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/623771/suggestion-for-the-backlash-templar-skill-and-burning-light
Meme for additional context: