Poll - Item limits in housing needs to be addressed (Please listen ZOS!)

Elara_Northwind

I have had to repost this from https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4403141#Comment_4403141 because I mentioned the 'P' Word

Hello! Good evening to my fellow Tamriel Decorators! First off, I would like to say that I know not everybody enjoys or sees the point in housing in eso, which is fine, and a personal choice, but this post is strictly aimed at those who place this aspect highly upon their Tamriel adventuring agendas!

Like many others, I have enjoyed and participated in purchasing and decorating homes in eso. I have spent hours farming materials and plans, I have been through the effort and frustration when it comes to trying to decorate seemingly impossible spaces, and have experienced the joy and pride of seeing all of this time, effort and money, both real and in game, paid off in the end when I have a beautiful home to show for it, but ZOS, there is a severe issue in this area of the game which so many of us love and enjoy, which you are neglecting to realise and acknowledge, and this issue is item slots!

When housing first became available, I, like many others, was very excited, and spent allot of time in all of the houses, decorating them and discovering what could be achieved with the amazing and beautiful furnishings you provided us with! Initially, I wanted to purchase Hundings, and anybody out there who has this home will be able to tell you straight away, that the item limit in this home IS NOT ENOUGH! I did not purchase this home myself, despite it being my favourite, because I was really turned off by the idea of buying a home in which I would have to make a conscious decision whether to furnish it either inside or our, or do a mediocre job on each. WE DO NOT SPEND REAL MONEY, AN EPIC AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT COLLECTING MATERIALS AND LEARNING FURNITURE PLANS TO DECORATE A MEDIOCRE HOUSE!

Please, take a look at Cliffshade, a medium home, with 400 item slots available to decorate, it is great! So much creativity and beauty can be found in that home, it can look however you choose it to, decorate to your hearts content, it is actually difficult to fit 400 items in there! Then look at Mournoth keep! The difference in size! The garden! Everything about it! This home has 400 items available also!?!? It makes absolutely no sense at all!

I have been on the pts decorating the new homes, and I started off with the witch house, it was SO MUCH FUN! I could spend hours decorating that place, making it look however I want, it is amazing! BUT… This house has 400 items?? Look at it! It is smaller than most SMALL houses which have 200 (100 for non subs!) Humblemud has 200 items, this has 400? It is tiny! I am not complaining about this 400 item limit, I am relishing in it! It is wonderful! We can be SO creative in this house! We can make it look exactly how we please, so why am I complaining then???

My main excitement about the pts was due to a home which looked GORGEOUS! PHENOMENAL! BEAUTIFUL! This home, was, of course, Linchal Grand Manor. I am not the only person who was excited by this home, many others were too, and I could not wait to see what I could do in this place! So, imagine my disappointment, when I had to remove EVERY SINGLE ITEM from the garden, in order to decorate the interior! This house is crown store only too! Do you expect non subs to accept your ridiculous prices for these crown only homes, when they can use just 350 items in them? It is impossible to decorate them with 700!! You guys have done such an amazing job on thse new homes too, they are gorgeous, the effort that your art teams put into building these really shows, and they looks beautiful, but what is the point in selling gorgeous homes when we can’t make them look great?

When I first saw these new homes, I was convinced that the item limit would be raised for these, to 1000 or so, but they were not, and I spent SO long inside of these, and I can tell you categorically, 100%, that unless you want to live in an empty shell, 700 is not enough items for these new homes! Non-subscribers should not be penalised either, with half item slot limits! They spend the same amount of gold and/or real money to buy these homes as we do, limiting them is utter bollocks! I understand the need for people to want to sub, but the crafting bag alone is reason enough for most of us that that do so, penalising people who have paid the exact same amount of money as everybody else like that is ridiculous! I am almost inclined to make some decorating videos on a non-sub item limit to prove to you that it is impossible!

I have had so many people tell me that they are unhappy with this, I am not the only one. I shall be linking this thread in my new videos, the ones where I had to leave most of the new homes empty in order to furnish the interior to a sub-standard level, and I hope that some other people will come forward to express how against these ridiculous item limits they are!

Lots of love to all of my other Tamrielic Interior Designers out there! Let us hope that ZOS allow us to unleash our creativity and make Tamriel beautiful soon

Shadzilla

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347925/poll-for-zos-are-you-happy-with-the-number-of-housing-slots-to-furnish-your-home#latest

ZOS will probably move this thread from general into housing, but yes more threads the better for this ridiculously low item limit in every house around... Trying to decorate a manor or any big home with 700 slots is equivalent to trying to play in the NBA with a wheelchair. Anything less than tripling the item limit on everything is unacceptable.

Jazbay_Grape

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

The item slots should be increased for both subs and non-subs without question. The newer homes seem to be significantly larger, and yet the item cap doesn't reflect this at all. If you want someone to spend an exorbitant amount of in game gold or actual money on these homes, then at least provide them with the opportunity and the ability to truly utilize the spaces. As things are now, it's having the opposite effect with respect to convincing people to expend the funds to purchase them. I would think that if the caps are increased, then more people would be willing to spend the money and would put more resources overall and time spent on the game.

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Karmanorway

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Try making Earthear cavern look great lol, impossible with 700 slots... and i spent 13 k crowns for it too :S

EmEm_Oh

Seems to me ZOS would be making real money by allowing a ton more items in homes. Limiting the items just makes the homes less attractive. I know I've personally just stopped using mine, and don't care to buy a home, or several homes, if ZOS doesn't allow a lot more items in homes.

More items = More homes = More $$$ for ZOS. It's a win/win. We get to explore our creativity to where we truly can enjoy the homes we buy and ZOS gets a boost in profits.

Minyassa

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I know that it's probably tempting to think of extra housing slots as a perk that people would pay more money for, but the thing is that both subscribers and non-subscribers pay crowns for stuff they want and if they are going to be enticed to spend crowns on housing and housing items, there needs to be a bigger lure. Current housing slots are clearly not cutting it.

jlboozer

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I agree, housing limits should be increased for everyone.

Cpt_Teemo

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Karmanorway wrote: »

Try making Earthear cavern look great lol, impossible with 700 slots... and i spent 13 k crowns for it too :S

Yeah its crazy for the gold manors as well, an extra 100 slots for 2.7m gold crazy

TerraDewBerry

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

ZOS has had more than ample feedback from their player base that we want the housing item limits increased... their response so far as been absolutely no response..

Wreuntzylla

Ahnastashia wrote: »

ZOS has had more than ample feedback from their player base that we want the housing item limits increased... their response so far as been absolutely no response..

Not quite. They said something about seeing the impact on lag and then maybe increasing the limits.

Sheyta

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Well there I voted for a increase of slots for housing. I say let non subscribers have the same amount of slots as subscribers They paid also for the house. Forcing people to pay to have same slot is like you pay rent with real money for a virtual home.

However ZOS there's a another aspect to homestead we want to be able to have vaults in our houses.

Implent a practical use for housing

O allow us to link our houses


I wouldn't mind a ship in my private harbour..

Faunter

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

Zenzuki

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I've basically just started placing everything all over the beach of Topal Island. Won't even bother trying to start a project knowing I'll come up short of completing it and it looking nice. So the island has just become a dumping ground of sorts, unfortunately.

I also bought Hundings. But that one I decided to actually decorate. But only have about 60 slots left and there are a number of barren rooms inside that will unfortunately have to stay that way, as the housing limit wont allow for further build-out. And I've also been holding over a number of slots to "replace" the beach debris that "went missing" and may be given back (but will take up space this time, unlike before)

ZOS needs to bump all the numbers up on all properties by at least two (maybe x3) for both subs and non-subs. (this coming from a day one subber).

C'mon ZOS. . . Let us get our decorator grooves on already!

Iron_Butterfly

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

It really is time ZOS addressed this issue - just not possible to completely decorate the larger houses with 600 or 700 items.

freespirit

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Please, please, please, please and...........

PLEASE!!!

Youmee

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

It has been so long and it is highly demanded, why does the team disregard this issue completely?

notimetocare

I do not believe that we should have an increase in item limits in housing, and this is why...

Slots will never go up. Why can't this topic die? lol

Would be nice to have slots tailored more than blanket sizes, but people should learn to prioritize and not expect a giant boost

Enslaved

I do not use housing since I find little to no benefit for me (read - no stash space included).
On the other hand, since ppl are already spending foolish amount of ingame coin, real life money, time and resources, I fail to see why Zos does not make another D move and simply start to sell house slots upgrades in crown store. What is the space limit now for huge mansions, 600-700? Sell those who want to decorate their houses with numerous details additional slots, it's simple as that. Zos gains more money for their golden toilet seats / ferrari, players gain more space to fill with wax bananas and other tools of torture. It is win-win situation.

Elyhnor

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

They are planning to make the cap higher in the future : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4399024#Comment_4399024

MornaBaine

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Faunter wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

Can "the future" be NOW please? We had to wait so long to even GET player housing because, first, it never occurred to ZOS that players would actually WANT housing and then because they didn't want to release it until they could "do it right."

Um, ZOS... it still ain't "right." Prices are too high for digital items. Especially for what you get. Player caps need to be tripled, at minimum. Item slots need to be doubled, at minimum.

MjolnirVilkas

I do not believe that we should have an increase in item limits in housing, and this is why...

...because housing, as it is right now without offering any storage or at least ways of displaying your weapons or armor, is completely pointless.

MornaBaine

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

MjolnirVilkas wrote: »

...because housing, as it is right now without offering any storage or at least ways of displaying your weapons or armor, is completely pointless.

Those things DO need to happen as well.... but they WILL take up item slots once implemented. So you should be FOR this, not against it.

MjolnirVilkas

I do not believe that we should have an increase in item limits in housing, and this is why...

True enough.


It's just that I'm very negative when it comes to housing in this game, it's one of the few things I really dislike.

Elara_Northwind

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

How anybody could seriously be against this change is beyond me completely, and makes zero logical sense. Even if the item limits were increased to 1000 in the large houses, that alone would allow for more creativity, although ideally I think that all of the item limits should be doubled at least in order for people to really be able to enjoy their houses, and how ZOS expect non-subs to spend money on housing when they are penalised in such a way is beyond ridiculous, and very unfair. Q

If extra item slots are added to the crown store at some stage (Bah!) a non-sub, who spent the same amount of money on their homes as those of us who sub, would have to spend a fortune! I would be disappointed if we were forced to pay to make our houses look better with crowns, but it would be a step in the right direction I suppose...

MercTheMage

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I am unable to sub where im from or buy anything from the clownstore, spent 1.4 mil on hundings hall and the entire inside is empty cause of the 300 item limit. Ridiculous

lamatadita

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

At the very least, some of the homes need their furnishing cap adjusted up or down, and the manor homes need an increase across the board. Grand Topal Hideaway is an amazing home, but I refused to pay that much money for it when I knew I wouldn't be able to decorate it fully with 700 items. The new Nord home looks like a similar situation. So basically what I'm saying is that I refuse to spend money because they won't let me spend *enough* money!

As for smaller homes, trying to decorate Mournoth Keep with 400 items is an exercise in frustration because both the house and the grounds are huge--it clearly needs to be bumped up to 500-600 slots. Meanwhile Sleek Creek House and Cliffshade also have 400 items and it's hard to actually use that many slots in those homes.

Saint Delyn's Penthouse is also about twice the size as the other free inn rooms, yet it has the same amount of furnishing slots, so it's also hard to decorate well. I made it look decently cozy, but there's very little room to add any details, so it should have a limit of at least 50 items. 30 furnishings for that space is utterly ridiculous.

If you're going to release homes as large and EXPENSIVE as Grand Topal Hideaway, Earthtear Cavern, and Hakkvild's High Hall, then you also need to give us enough slots to decorate them in a way that makes it worth it. As expensive as those homes are, if someone's willing to pay that much for them in the first place, then there's a high chance that they're willing and able to spend quite a lot more to fully decorate them.

kylewwefan

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I don't do much with housing. I have the island I bought. Furnished. I wouldn't be able to place much on my island if not an ESO+ subscription.


Anyways, I'd also like to place all my mounts and pets. All of them.

Thank you. That is all.

mateoz

I bought Grand Topal Hideaway and its half way furnished even with empty interiors.
What we need is an increase in slots available, If we want this short term just sell the idea to marketing not the dev.
They should be selling +100 housing slots for 1000 crown 5000 items upgrade max and they would sell tons of it, seriously they could make a fortune.

Saturn

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

I do think that the item limit (which I reached for my large house two months ago) is way too small. If the excuse is that it would be too laggy, then that's pretty silly I think, because even with as many items as possible the performance in a house phase is significantly better than any given zone, and several times that of populated zones. We all know that ESO's bad performance comes from player amount, so it makes sense to have a player cap (although 12 is still too few), but not so much with the item cap, which severely limits creativity. Personally I'd like to see an item cap go all the way to 2000 (possibly even more), the cap increase being purchasable with Gold as well as Crowns, similar to inventory and bank space upgrades. I did think the housing was a nice surprise when it came out, despite not really being one for that kind of MMO fluff, but it's clear that it's way too restrictive.

Tavore1138

It all depends on whether the item limits are arbitrary or whether there is some relation to server performance - although if ZOS were to state the latter is the reason then they could put this one to bed.

Personally I'd like to see the 700 go up to around 1,000 slots OR some way of grouping several items to make them into a single 'stack' to reduce the overall item counts.

It gets a bit depressing doing decorations on a one in, one out basis...

I like the look of that new grand Gold Coast manor - huge garden just crying out for a mad tree frenzy and plenty of interior rooms to play with - but as of now I would simply not buy it because I could not do it justice with the slots I have available.

qsnoopyjr

I believe that we should have the ability to increase item slots in housing for both subscribers and non-subscribers alike, seeing as everybody pays the same amount of money for housing in the game.

Boy,

You have free data storage these days, the cloud is for everyone.
Why they use free stuff and charge us (more space) for the free stuff they have?

Does everything they get for free, do all of those things, must they put on a price tag?