Slight problem with Double Bloody Mara

Loralai_907

I've been wanting my wood elf to be a WW for a while now. If she could be a WW but look like this, I would call it a win personally.

Ilsabet

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Ilsabet wrote: »

I think I'm confused about how the stages work.

Is stage 1 or stage 4 the "highest" possible stage? I thought you started with stage 1 and then progressed to stage 4 and then had to keep feeding if you wanted to maintain stage 4. I think I might have it backwards.

Stage 4 is the highest, but vampirism in the Elder Scrolls universe works backwards to the way it is usually portrayed. Feeding makes you more human, meaning that you appear less vampiric but also have weaker powers. A vampire that starves itself by choosimg not to feed cannot hide its vampiric nature, but is also much much stronger than one who stays fed.

Huh. So... what's the point to feeding, if it's more beneficial to be lazy? Just not having to look like you've been swimming in a vat of flour?

And why include a perk in a gold beverage that's actually counterproductive to making you powerful?

SolarCat02

Ilsabet wrote: »

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Ilsabet wrote: »

I think I'm confused about how the stages work.

Is stage 1 or stage 4 the "highest" possible stage? I thought you started with stage 1 and then progressed to stage 4 and then had to keep feeding if you wanted to maintain stage 4. I think I might have it backwards.

Stage 4 is the highest, but vampirism in the Elder Scrolls universe works backwards to the way it is usually portrayed. Feeding makes you more human, meaning that you appear less vampiric but also have weaker powers. A vampire that starves itself by choosimg not to feed cannot hide its vampiric nature, but is also much much stronger than one who stays fed.

Huh. So... what's the point to feeding, if it's more beneficial to be lazy? Just not having to look like you've been swimming in a vat of flour?

And why include a perk in a gold beverage that's actually counterproductive to making you powerful?

There are downsides to the higher stages... Much lower health regeneration (my vampire has about 105 regeneration) and an increasing weakness to fire. So it's tradeoffs, but if you can handle your own healing competently stage 4 is much better.


Back on the topic of this thread, has anyone with a non-werewolf bosmer tried the drink? Or a non-bosmer werewolf? Or is it an issue only for bosmer werewolves?

ZOS_GinaBruno

We did some investigating, and did find that werewolves who drink the Double Bloody Mara will get the appearance of a Vampire and will receive the negative effects, but will not have access to the skill line. As this seems to be a permanent change, we suggest you get in touch with our Support Team so they can remove it for you.

@BlueViolet Go ahead and submit a ticket, then send me the number and I'll make sure it gets to the right folks.

ZOS_PeterT

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Artis

It's awesome, please don't fix it Stage 1 is the best looking and we don't have a skin

I mean if you want to have stats on a non-vampire character you will use blue food anyway, since it gives more magicka

SanTii.92

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Why the hell would anyone want to be stage 1?

stage 1 is pretty useless but there is a lot of gain on staying at stages 2 or 3.

bryanhaas

Kemono wrote: »

HA, so we getting proof how useles this potion is: it drop you from stage 4 right in stage 1, and lock you there for 4 hours, no matter what.
how is that a legendary potion?
btw stats on Bloody mara are WAY WORSE then on crafted blue Cp150 food !!!

btw this effect can actually be usefull to RP circles as "fake vampirism for short time" disguise

Well actually you can't exactly compare it to blue food because it gives more than 2 buffs. Max mag, Max health, counts as feeding.

Lexxypwns

Kemono wrote: »

HA, so we getting proof how useles this potion is: it drop you from stage 4 right in stage 1, and lock you there for 4 hours, no matter what.
how is that a legendary potion?
btw stats on Bloody mara are WAY WORSE then on crafted blue Cp150 food !!!

btw this effect can actually be usefull to RP circles as "fake vampirism for short time" disguise

It's a drink so it procs the "while a drink is active" sets I'd say less health and mag while gaining Stam and Stam regen isn't a bad deal for Pvp and you can use vamp skills to get back to stage 4. OP just has no vamp skills so he's stuck at stage 1

AzraelAcid

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,

A friend of mine has been struggling to get this fixed since the hotfix, through Customer Support. They keep giving her generic answers, like "reload your ui", and the latest one attached below. She's extremely frustrated. Can you have someone please contact me to give a name to her so she can get this resolved once and for all?

Thank you very much.

Lilianne

AzraelAcid wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,

A friend of mine has been struggling to get this fixed since the hotfix, through Customer Support. They keep giving her generic answers, like "reload your ui", and the latest one attached below. She's extremely frustrated. Can you have someone please contact me to give a name to her so she can get this resolved once and for all?

Thank you very much.

I am the Friend of Azrael that is having the problems can you please contact me to help me because customer support isnt helping at all

ZOS_GinaBruno

Yep, we'll get you straightened out @lilianne.

SamuraiJohn

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Can someone please help/contact me about the same problem? I've had stage 4 vampirism with only debuffs and no buffs on my main character for 5 days now that is irreversible.
I haven't heard back from anyone from the ticket i submitted.

spirosxtreme0

I have the same problem , I send a ticket to support about the double bloody Mara and the fake vampirism to remove it and they answer me that they can't restore items that is destroyed deconstructed or altered

raidentenshu_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did some investigating, and did find that werewolves who drink the Double Bloody Mara will get the appearance of a Vampire and will receive the negative effects, but will not have access to the skill line. As this seems to be a permanent change, we suggest you get in touch with our Support Team so they can remove it for you.

@BlueViolet Go ahead and submit a ticket, then send me the number and I'll make sure it gets to the right folks.

I think you have something there. Give us PvE players an expansion to our imagination for once let us become a hybrid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ClBYdlPe4


Molag bal and Hircine would approve.

Crimsonwolf666

I too am having this problem on my Main character who is a WW. Drank that potion, but then it turned him into the look of the vampire with the debuffs and weaknesses. THis is B.S. Probably should be a warning on those Double Bloody Mara's to not drink if you are a WW. All I have to say is, it better get fixed. I did submit a ticket too, waiting for the reply.

AzraelAcid

@ZOS_GinaBruno You are the best! Thank you for being so awesome.

SamuraiJohn

So,
It's now been around 10 days since this bug happened to my character. I'd like to think I've been decently patient after sending in a report considering it's a pretty substantial debuff. And on top of the now minute health regen along with +fire dmg (nuthin to sneeze at) of a fake stage 4 vampire that I'm at the mercy of, my poor Templar looks perpetually awful. (And yes I know about the disguises covering it. It's the only way I can look at her now.)

@ZOS_GinaBruno I don't see much point sending in another report. It should be in the system. And from the looks of it, all ppl keep getting is canned responses anyway. Please, can I get some sort of assistance? Thank You

P.S. I've cured myself of the WW scratch when trying to cure the initial vamp bug when I noticed it.

Crimsonwolf666

The debuff was fixed but my main character STILL looks like a Stage 3 vampire. I even tried the curing the WW and then reinfecting myself with Lycanthropy (which I am still owed the gold and crowns back for the Support Staff suggesting it too me). The "hotfix" patch today was supposed to fix the vampire skin still sticking around issue. It did not. Reloaded UI and relogged on again. NOthing, no change.

ZOS_GinaBruno

If anyone is still having an issue with this after submitting a ticket with Support, please PM me your ticket number. Thanks!

SamuraiJohn

Apparently I can't PM because my status on forums is still Soul Shriven?
I've only used the forums just recently for information about this bug; I haven't had to use it until now.
My ticket number is: 161015-001347
Sorry if I'm being a nuisance, I'm just frustrated and don't use forums very much...
Thank you

SamuraiJohn

Really? Even after having to get to a one star status on this thing in order to pm my ticket number to somehow make it official, nothing is done. Two weeks my character has been like this at least. Absolutely mind boggling. I'm not rerolling, and I'm not going to just deal with this problem that wasn't caused by any action of mine.

Do I need to just continually send reports and pm's until this is resolved? Is that really what I need to do in order for my main to be fixed? Why is this like pulling teeth with you people? I did everything by the book to get this looked at and get absolutely nothing for it. My toon is now technically BROKEN because of the dev team or whatever's inability to test stuff like this before it's released.

SamuraiJohn

Another maintenance, and still my character is a 'fake' stage 4 vampire, debuffs and all. 11 days since I first made a post on this thread and the false infection from that drink was 4-5 days before that.

Is anyone else also dealing with this nonsense still? I surely can't be the only one. Guess I'll be making another bug report so I can get a canned response in order to update the fact that this is still somehow an issue. I mean for Kyne's sake the Halloween event should technically be over now if it wasn't for the plunder skull bug? Beyond frustrated.

Crimsonwolf666

My WW characters debuff was fixed but he still looks like a Stage 3 vampire. I have done all the little suggestions by the support staff, but nothing has worked. Is there an ETA on a patch that will fix this. Afterall I buy those cosmetic things from the crown store mostly for my main character, and they, especially tattoos, look like crap on a vampire. Plz fix my main Character. I did spend crown in changing his appearance when that first came out, and I will want money back if he is stuck in this Vampire Stage 3 look.
Any update to this at all? Is it being worked on? @ZOS_GinaBruno

SamuraiJohn

Yep I got the debuff taken off but my Templar STILL looks like a reject from a Blade movie. If you guys can't remove the damn issue at the moment can you at least crank the 'look' of it to stage one so she at least doesn't look like a raging undead crackhead (stage 4)? What really irks me as well is even when I got a reply about the debuff I didn't even get an ETA on when this is finally going to be fixed.

I drank the stupid stuff like two days after the event started, and it's already into November. AND no maintenance on monday.
And I'm with ya, spending crowns for this character and not only that but a hefty sum of gold to buy motifs and pages of motifs to make her look how I'd like. All to cover it up with a disguise (that isn't dyeable) so she doesn't look like some fugly dead thing. Even if they refunded the money (which I doubt), she's my main crafter as well and has titles/trophies etc that make me even more attached to her, since they refuse to make ones like Daedric Lord Slayer and Enemy of Coldharbor account wide. So that still would not be acceptable.

Now with the extended event I'd still be wearing a disguise cause the skelly thing got a bit old for me after the first week. But it's over in two days. Then what? We just sit on our hands and hope that at some point in the future this is rectified? @ZOS_GinaBruno

SamuraiJohn

Crimson have you sent in a bug report recently? Have you gotten any communication about the issue? I was fed a line about how it's being worked on and it'll be fixed at some later patch. When even is the next patch? Jan? Feb?

Also, I'm curious if the other players that have posted on this thing about the problem were actually helped and it get reverted. Did they actually get it sorted, or are they in the same boat? If not then it's bs that they were told it would be fixed and it didn't , OR they did somehow get it fixed and to that I say.. what the actual eff.

Crimsonwolf666

SamuraiJohn wrote: »

Crimson have you sent in a bug report recently? Have you gotten any communication about the issue? I was fed a line about how it's being worked on and it'll be fixed at some later patch. When even is the next patch? Jan? Feb?

Also, I'm curious if the other players that have posted on this thing about the problem were actually helped and it get reverted. Did they actually get it sorted, or are they in the same boat? If not then it's bs that they were told it would be fixed and it didn't , OR they did somehow get it fixed and to that I say.. what the actual eff.

Yes, I was told that they would have it fixed in some major next patch waaaaayyyyy in the future.... I am not sure if only a few ppl ended up getting stuck with the vampire look while only the debuff was fixed or if EVERY WW character that drank a Bloody Mara is stuck looking like a vampire. Haven't heard much from other ppl about having this issue.

Crimsonwolf666

Want to add something interesting that I have noticed. If you put on a disguise like the "Monk's Disguise" or "Servants Outfit", things like that, then I can see my main character get his normal skin tone back and he no longer looks like a vampire, but when the disguise runs out or is taken off then the vampire skin comes back....was kinda hoping when I saw that, that it would knock that bug out and my ww character would lose that damn vampire look. Something to maybe pass on to the tech or support staff @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

Crimsonwolf666

Was hoping this patch would have fixed the Vampire skin issue on Werewolves....apparently I have too much faith in ZOS....

SamuraiJohn

Crimson I noticed awhile back about the disguise thing 'masking' the bug. My character has been running around with one on since the bug happened. Which is awesome considering how many motifs and dyes I have unlocked and enjoy using. Especially on my main.

I'm still not letting this issue just get pushed down till either it gets buried or ppl give up. Cause this wasn't our mistake. Nowhere did it ever say 'Don't drink if already infected as another beast' etctec. It's plainly a bug that's their fault that could have been easily prevented if tested properly. Regardless if my temp had a scratch (yep, not even a full blown WW. I fell onto a pack whilst running around questing) before I decided to chug that stuff to see if the magicka regen was worth. And ya when they had an emerg type of maintenance I was hoping it was resolved as well. I honestly can't even try to fathom why this is such a massive issue in the first place. Not only that but it's been an ongoing issue since before mid OCTOBER.

I mean jesus at this point just wipe my characters damn face and skin and randomize it. I'll remake her look. I even considered spending the money to race swap and see if that would fix it. But knowing my luck the bug would still persist, cause why not.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Other than getting this issue 'escalated' and told essentially 'Maybe at some point it might be fixed', that's all that's happened. Then ignored. No updates on the problem. Nothing. Gunna keep posting and doing what I have to until this is actually looked at.