R.I.P. stamina players

trimsic_ESO

There were not that much stamina players in Cyrodiil, but NB.
With the update 7, ZOS welcomes you to Elder Magicka Online, where being a stamina player will make no sense if you're not a night blade.

- No more stamina regen while blocking
- 33% extra cost when dodging twice or more
- No more 30% extra stamina regen if you are a WW, unless you slot the WW ultimate (R.I.P. WW)

Night Blades:
- 20% cost reduction of class skills based on stamina - suprize attacks fest land
- various buffs to NB class skills

Isbilen

Unless you're a DK, in which case stamina will be the only option.

Alcast

GG to repentance working with stamina now, here come the Stamina templars

and its only a 33% extra roll cost, so just stack regen to 4k and no problemo

Jakeol

The 30% nightblade stam regen passive is being changed to 15% to all 3 (magicka, stam, health). The 20% reduction is awesome because most stam NBs use their class abilities anyway.

Vampires are also losing their regen unless they have an ability slotted.

There is now a stam regen mundus stone.


It's win some lose some. It's all still in testing I can't wait to play with it

FENGRUSH

Stam sorcs can finally blossom in cyrodiil

Thundering Presence (Lightning Form morph): This ability is now a Stamina morph.

Prepare to be shredded by PBAOE stam damage ticks every few seconds.

HeroOfNone

Isbilen wrote: »

Unless you're a DK, in which case stamina will be the only option.

How do you see that? Still no stamina execute, no nerf to silks of the sun/Valkyn Skoria, 2handers still not getting any sustained damage buff, reduction to damage shields, etc. Battle roar for stamina was the only real beneficial thing of note for us, but still not sure how this will play out for the none burst kill debuff that they are applying to Cyrodiil.

GreenSoup2HoT

I use bat swarm anyway's with Surprize Attack.. so being a vampire is still fine for me.

ShedsHisTail

Oh, is the sky falling again?

*grabs umbrella and hardhat*

trimsic_ESO

Alcast wrote: »

GG to repentance working with stamina now, here come the Stamina templars

and its only a 33% extra roll cost, so just stack regen to 4k and no problemo

4k - so if I do understand you well, we should focus on the stamina regen and forget about the other stats to reach that 4k goal, thus gimping ourselves. Stamina melee classes, but the NB, are already laughable. They are just a joke in this new update 7 release.

Kloud

Stam got hit to hard imo sorcs and magika nbs is all you gonna see

OtarTheMad

stamina builds will be just fine. Just have to learn to adjust to changes, stamina has more than one build.

Daveheart

I have to give a great big thank you to all who bitched about werewolf giving stamina regeneration out of the werewolf form. Thanks a lot guys. You're the best. /s

TheBull

I indeed looks pretty bad for stam builds. On top of what's listed caltrops no longer count as a melee attack, thus no more Redguard adrenalin rush....

BRogueNZ

Hardly. They needed to pull their heads in a bit anyway.

Takllin

Daveheart wrote: »

I have to give a great big thank you to all who bitched about werewolf giving stamina regeneration out of the werewolf form. Thanks a lot guys. You're the best. /s

Yes because when there is zero drawbacks to making a decision like that it's completely balanced...

kkampaseb17_ESO

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Stam sorcs can finally blossom in cyrodiil

Thundering Presence (Lightning Form morph): This ability is now a Stamina morph.

Prepare to be shredded by PBAOE stam damage ticks every few seconds.

Irony or....is it actually that good?

FENGRUSH

kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Stam sorcs can finally blossom in cyrodiil

Thundering Presence (Lightning Form morph): This ability is now a Stamina morph.

Prepare to be shredded by PBAOE stam damage ticks every few seconds.

Irony or....is it actually that good?

Havent tested it. Its probably like using caltrops except you have to be standing at an arms reach - and it doesnt have any side effect minus a chance to disintegrate!

Daveheart

Takllin wrote: »

Daveheart wrote: »

I have to give a great big thank you to all who bitched about werewolf giving stamina regeneration out of the werewolf form. Thanks a lot guys. You're the best. /s

Yes because when there is zero drawbacks to making a decision like that it's completely balanced...

Is it a bit silly to not have a drawback? Sure. However, why not just add a drawback? Make the poison vulnerability persistent. Before, the only reasons not to be a werewolf were for RP (or vamps). Now, you're gimping your build to get the regen (by slotting the werewolf ult instead of a better choice for DPS).

Do I think any of these changes are "end of the world" level for any of my stam builds? Not at all. I do think that there are a lot of unnecessary changes in todays patch notes that stem from people who complain about features that should be on the extreme low end of the priority list. Can you honestly say that there isn't a fix that didn't make it into the patch notes that should have been a higher priority than removing a source of stamina regeneration?

Sharee

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

- No more 30% extra stamina regen if you are a WW, unless you slot the WW ultimate (R.I.P. WW)

It is a 15% bonus, not 30%.

Rinmaethodain

ZOS officially hates stamina regeneration?

They cripple every ESO tank taking away stam regen while blocking.
They almost take away stam regen from WW.
I can see the next step. No more stamina regen while using heavy attacks. From now on stamina will regenerate only when you log out from game for at least hour.

MrBeatDown

MaximusDargus wrote: »

ZOS officially hates stamina regeneration?

They cripple every ESO tank taking away stam regen while blocking.
They almost take away stam regen from WW.
I can see the next step. No more stamina regen while using heavy attacks. From now on stamina will regenerate only when you log out from game for at least hour.

You still have Evasion and Block Mitigation and Reduced block cost to fall back on.

Its not like they completely *** stamina users anyway. 5 piece heavy armor set is 20 or 25% (forgot) reduced cost of blocking (Unfortunately a shield does not count as heavy armor)

5 piece hist bark now Cast Evasion

5 Piece Footman looks like it will still mitigate after this update.

And then you can go the Vamp route for more damage mitigation since WW is now utterly useless garbage.

leepalmer95

Kloud wrote: »

Stam got hit to hard imo sorcs and magika nbs is all you gonna see

sorc's and nb's is all you see anway. Just buff the most well of class, gg Zos.