DKs nerfed way too hard in 1.6. Templars = jack of all trades and OP.

monkeymystic

DKs really got a big nerf across the board for 1.6, too much in my opinion (they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)
At the same time they buffed Templars even more (what? they were already strong).

Templars on PTS are:
The best healers.
The best DPS (and they are not limited to melee range, they can choose..)
The best tank.
The new execute ability is so unbalanced its a joke.


Balance 1.6 please, before everyone has rerolled templar..

Panda244

Except a Templar can't Dragon Leap, and Dragon Leap OP. So we're all good.

Kuro1n

Oh so you mean they are essentially what DK was in 1.5? Well... -shrugs- one overlord or another to rule over us mortal classes, who gives even a slight ***. I am mostly sad that they can't seem to fix the NB issues that are plaguing us, cloak being completely useless for example.

EDIT: Judging from your posts you are a vamp DK or something, welcome to how it has been for the rest of us (although I think DK is still stronger than both NB and sorc).

Panda244

Kuro1n wrote: »

Oh so you mean they are essentially what DK was in 1.5? Well... -shrugs- one overlord or another to rule over us mortal classes, who gives even a slight ***. I am mostly sad that they can't seem to fix the NB issues that are plaguing us, cloak being completely useless for example.

EDIT: Judging from your posts you are a vamp DK or something, welcome to how it has been for the rest of us (although I think DK is still stronger than both NB and sorc).

Just to clarify, I'm going to have to add that into my signature xD.

Every class come 1.6 has gotten some pretty substantial nerfs, Templars included. Nothing about DKs will change aside from their ability to drop an Ultimate every 10 seconds, or ever 5 seconds when they were Emperor. But yeah, one overlord to rule us all eh? I'd rather it be the healers, than the damage dealers

Kuro1n

Panda244 wrote: »

Kuro1n wrote: »

Oh so you mean they are essentially what DK was in 1.5? Well... -shrugs- one overlord or another to rule over us mortal classes, who gives even a slight ***. I am mostly sad that they can't seem to fix the NB issues that are plaguing us, cloak being completely useless for example.

EDIT: Judging from your posts you are a vamp DK or something, welcome to how it has been for the rest of us (although I think DK is still stronger than both NB and sorc).

Just to clarify, I'm going to have to add that into my signature xD.

Every class come 1.6 has gotten some pretty substantial nerfs, Templars included. Nothing about DKs will change aside from their ability to drop an Ultimate every 10 seconds, or ever 5 seconds when they were Emperor. But yeah, one overlord to rule us all eh? I'd rather it be the healers, than the damage dealers

Hehe well the biggest issue I personally had with DK was the combo of vamp + talons + reflective because you couldn't fight them on range or close by. Now this seems to be taken care of and I am pretty happy.

We will see what the actual overlord will be but my bet is on DK with some other build or a templar (most likely).

GreyRanger

Well we can all rest easy that the new over lord won't be a NB or Sorcerer. We have that going for us.

Teargrants

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Panda244

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Gyudan

monkeymystic wrote: »

they are useless healers

Can you tell me which other classes have access to the Major Mending buff? (+30% healing done)

The answer is simple: none.

DKs will have the strongest healing springs in update 6.

Teargrants

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Obsidian Shards offers utility in that it has a 3 second knockdown + 5% stam back w/ Helping Hands.
Chains works as a gap closer in 1.6, pulling you to them if they are CC immune. Ofc it's not a dps skill it's utility, that would be like me complaining that Bolt Escape is bad dps.
Dragon Leap has range, that's why I listed it, didn't say anything about it being a ranged sustained dps. It too is all about utility, resources back w/ Battle Roar + 106% dmg shield for 6 sec.

My point was, of course DKs lack range, they are a melee class by design just as sorcs are a ranged class that is lacking in melee by design. The part in OP about DKs being useless healers and lacking utility is total rubbish.

You can have my desk, but only if you can catch my blinky blink.

manny254

As soon as you said Templars are the best dps you lost any credibility or legitimacy of your complaints. What you think does not = The Truth.

Cody

"the best execute ability" can be stopped with interruption abilities. Venom arrow spam is constant, and once the majority of the player base learns this executes weakness, it will become really hard to effectively use this execute.

other than that; yes, templars will be the new "overpowered" class. If y'all thought blazing shield spam was bad in 1.5, y'all are in for a nightmare:/

It will not make DKs weak as heck though. It just means templars will start being quadruple teamed like DKs were:D It will be glorious. so many dead templars... (and no, I will not complain about blazing shield spam; I never have and never will, AOE root spam will always be my complaint)

oh and the best DPS, in my opinion, will go to stamina build NBs. again, that is my opinion, feel free to debate that as y'all wish. Sucks NBs still don't have a good self heal or a class based damage shield; maybe i should put up a thread describing my siphoning shield idea...

lets see... there was something else I wanted to say......

oh! i remember now; I am amazed you did not mention the RS nerf; that is what DKs complain about nowadays(and with good reason)


It will be interesting to see how DKs function as tanks in PvP will this unnecessary nerf to RS.

Cody

and I will NEVER re-roll templar!!! NUNCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NIGHTBLADE FOR LIFE!!!!!!! DOWN WITH THE TEMPLAR, DRAGONKNIGHT, AND SORCERER HEATHANS.

/observes the huge hypocrisy in the comment and laughs, preparing to get back on his lvl 22 DK:D

Panda244

Teargrants wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Obsidian Shards offers utility in that it has a 3 second knockdown + 5% stam back w/ Helping Hands.
Chains works as a gap closer in 1.6, pulling you to them if they are CC immune. Ofc it's not a dps skill it's utility, that would be like me complaining that Bolt Escape is bad dps.
Dragon Leap has range, that's why I listed it, didn't say anything about it being a ranged sustained dps. It too is all about utility, resources back w/ Battle Roar + 106% dmg shield for 6 sec.

My point was, of course DKs lack range, they are a melee class by design just as sorcs are a ranged class that is lacking in melee by design. The part in OP about DKs being useless healers and lacking utility is total rubbish.

You can have my desk, but only if you can catch my blinky blink.

If I catch your blinking arse do I have permission to /pushups and pilfer 10 tripots from your person?

I wear the Engine Guardian set in Medium Armor, so with GDB up I have about 126 stamina recovery, with one stamina cost reduction enchant, and usually, not always, but I'd say 3/4 of the time a Sorcerer streaks away from the fight, I'll purposefully chase them down and catch them because I have about 50 speed pots at all time for these occasions. Most of the time I'll catch up and kill them because they've wasted magicka running, sometimes they'll turn around and fight for a little bit then run away again, but usually I catch them. It's when they dodge behind rocks and use dark exchange that I don't catch them, but at that point I know they have no intention to ever turn around, they're recharging their magic to run like hell away from the DK that somehow caught up.

There was this one time though, I had just got done doing DSA and Extended Changes was on my bar because I have to yank in the adds right? I hopped off the east gate and started making my way to Bloodmayne (Chillrend, map was all blue) A Sorcerer decided he wanted to try ganking me with a 2H, so he gets me down to 30ish percent. (I had my soda in my hand ) Then healed and nearly killed him, and so began the bolt escape. Switched bars, saw chains, yanked him back and killed him with a Flame Lash xD

Cody

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Obsidian Shards offers utility in that it has a 3 second knockdown + 5% stam back w/ Helping Hands.
Chains works as a gap closer in 1.6, pulling you to them if they are CC immune. Ofc it's not a dps skill it's utility, that would be like me complaining that Bolt Escape is bad dps.
Dragon Leap has range, that's why I listed it, didn't say anything about it being a ranged sustained dps. It too is all about utility, resources back w/ Battle Roar + 106% dmg shield for 6 sec.

My point was, of course DKs lack range, they are a melee class by design just as sorcs are a ranged class that is lacking in melee by design. The part in OP about DKs being useless healers and lacking utility is total rubbish.

You can have my desk, but only if you can catch my blinky blink.

If I catch your blinking arse do I have permission to /pushups and pilfer 10 tripots from your person?

I wear the Engine Guardian set in Medium Armor, so with GDB up I have about 126 stamina recovery, with one stamina cost reduction enchant, and usually, not always, but I'd say 3/4 of the time a Sorcerer streaks away from the fight, I'll purposefully chase them down and catch them because I have about 50 speed pots at all time for these occasions. Most of the time I'll catch up and kill them because they've wasted magicka running, sometimes they'll turn around and fight for a little bit then run away again, but usually I catch them. It's when they dodge behind rocks and use dark exchange that I don't catch them, but at that point I know they have no intention to ever turn around, they're recharging their magic to run like hell away from the DK that somehow caught up.

There was this one time though, I had just got done doing DSA and Extended Changes was on my bar because I have to yank in the adds right? I hopped off the east gate and started making my way to Bloodmayne (Chillrend, map was all blue) A Sorcerer decided he wanted to try ganking me with a 2H, so he gets me down to 30ish percent. (I had my soda in my hand ) Then healed and nearly killed him, and so began the bolt escape. Switched bars, saw chains, yanked him back and killed him with a Flame Lash xD

extended chains OP

Cody

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Obsidian Shards offers utility in that it has a 3 second knockdown + 5% stam back w/ Helping Hands.
Chains works as a gap closer in 1.6, pulling you to them if they are CC immune. Ofc it's not a dps skill it's utility, that would be like me complaining that Bolt Escape is bad dps.
Dragon Leap has range, that's why I listed it, didn't say anything about it being a ranged sustained dps. It too is all about utility, resources back w/ Battle Roar + 106% dmg shield for 6 sec.

My point was, of course DKs lack range, they are a melee class by design just as sorcs are a ranged class that is lacking in melee by design. The part in OP about DKs being useless healers and lacking utility is total rubbish.

You can have my desk, but only if you can catch my blinky blink.

If I catch your blinking arse do I have permission to /pushups and pilfer 10 tripots from your person?

I wear the Engine Guardian set in Medium Armor, so with GDB up I have about 126 stamina recovery, with one stamina cost reduction enchant, and usually, not always, but I'd say 3/4 of the time a Sorcerer streaks away from the fight, I'll purposefully chase them down and catch them because I have about 50 speed pots at all time for these occasions. Most of the time I'll catch up and kill them because they've wasted magicka running, sometimes they'll turn around and fight for a little bit then run away again, but usually I catch them. It's when they dodge behind rocks and use dark exchange that I don't catch them, but at that point I know they have no intention to ever turn around, they're recharging their magic to run like hell away from the DK that somehow caught up.

There was this one time though, I had just got done doing DSA and Extended Changes was on my bar because I have to yank in the adds right? I hopped off the east gate and started making my way to Bloodmayne (Chillrend, map was all blue) A Sorcerer decided he wanted to try ganking me with a 2H, so he gets me down to 30ish percent. (I had my soda in my hand ) Then healed and nearly killed him, and so began the bolt escape. Switched bars, saw chains, yanked him back and killed him with a Flame Lash xD

I once chased a BEing sorc a good distance; she hid behind these rocks and tried to heal, I reached her, and she turned around to me fearing and sniping her to death.

I LOVE sniping BEers... its such good fun!!! you should try it if ever you decide to abandon your filthy and disgusting magicka build.

Panda244

Cody wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)

Wat.

- Igneous Shiled boosts healing done by 33% for 6 sec.
- DKs are built around melee, even so they have a number of semi ranged abilities: Dragon Leap, Obsidian Shard, Petrify, Chains.
- As I recall, DKs still pull the highest dps on PTS.

Obsidian Shard deals relatively no damage, costs a lot, and the animation is clunky.
Chains is chains. Horribad for DPS and the utility part hardly works in PvP.

Dragon Leap IS AND ULTIMATE when people use that as an excuse to explain DKs have ranged abilities I want to facedesk so hard... Lend me your desk Tear, I don't want to break my own as I repeatedly beat my head against it.

As far as being useless healers, when done correctly they have decent heals and high utility heals, but nothing like the almighty divine Breath-O-Life

Obsidian Shards offers utility in that it has a 3 second knockdown + 5% stam back w/ Helping Hands.
Chains works as a gap closer in 1.6, pulling you to them if they are CC immune. Ofc it's not a dps skill it's utility, that would be like me complaining that Bolt Escape is bad dps.
Dragon Leap has range, that's why I listed it, didn't say anything about it being a ranged sustained dps. It too is all about utility, resources back w/ Battle Roar + 106% dmg shield for 6 sec.

My point was, of course DKs lack range, they are a melee class by design just as sorcs are a ranged class that is lacking in melee by design. The part in OP about DKs being useless healers and lacking utility is total rubbish.

You can have my desk, but only if you can catch my blinky blink.

If I catch your blinking arse do I have permission to /pushups and pilfer 10 tripots from your person?

I wear the Engine Guardian set in Medium Armor, so with GDB up I have about 126 stamina recovery, with one stamina cost reduction enchant, and usually, not always, but I'd say 3/4 of the time a Sorcerer streaks away from the fight, I'll purposefully chase them down and catch them because I have about 50 speed pots at all time for these occasions. Most of the time I'll catch up and kill them because they've wasted magicka running, sometimes they'll turn around and fight for a little bit then run away again, but usually I catch them. It's when they dodge behind rocks and use dark exchange that I don't catch them, but at that point I know they have no intention to ever turn around, they're recharging their magic to run like hell away from the DK that somehow caught up.

There was this one time though, I had just got done doing DSA and Extended Changes was on my bar because I have to yank in the adds right? I hopped off the east gate and started making my way to Bloodmayne (Chillrend, map was all blue) A Sorcerer decided he wanted to try ganking me with a 2H, so he gets me down to 30ish percent. (I had my soda in my hand ) Then healed and nearly killed him, and so began the bolt escape. Switched bars, saw chains, yanked him back and killed him with a Flame Lash xD

extended chains OP

please nerf? @Cody

RinaldoGandolphi

Poor sorcs, all we wanna do is blink ,:)

Cody

woodsro wrote: »

Poor sorcs, all we wanna do is blink ,:)

don't make me use the dark side of the snipe on you.....

my 8-even 9K snipes in 1.6 will enjoy tearing y'all up as y'all streak away! muhahahahah!

Tonnopesce

My healing springs crit for 360 hp and my Blessing of Restoration crit nearly 1 k on live no templar can do it and i do belive that with the right choices in the ch pionts the number will increase moooore.
I'm doing the dk healer from 5 days now and i've already healed tru all the engame except trials....

Panda244

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

My healing springs crit for 360 hp and my Blessing of Restoration crit nearly 1 k on live no templar can do it and i do belive that with the right choices in the ch pionts the number will increase moooore.
I'm doing the dk healer from 5 days now and i've already healed tru all the engame except trials....

Aye, DKs are technically the second best healers in the game... The only reason they aren't the best, is because they don't have Purifying Ritual or Breath of Life.

Vis

No more nerfs. If you do not like where your class stands relative to other classes, ask for specific changes within your class.

Disclaimer: my main is a sorc and not a dk.

Xexpo

monkeymystic wrote: »

DKs really got a big nerf across the board for 1.6, too much in my opinion (they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)
At the same time they buffed Templars even more (what? they were already strong).

Templars on PTS are:
The best healers.
The best DPS (and they are not limited to melee range, they can choose..)
The best tank.
The new execute ability is so unbalanced its a joke.


Balance 1.6 please, before everyone has rerolled templar..

LOL/Disagree

f047ys3v3n

monkeymystic wrote: »

DKs really got a big nerf across the board for 1.6, too much in my opinion (they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)
At the same time they buffed Templars even more (what? they were already strong).

Templars on PTS are:
The best healers.
The best DPS (and they are not limited to melee range, they can choose..)
The best tank.
The new execute ability is so unbalanced its a joke.


Balance 1.6 please, before everyone has rerolled templar..

Do you know why any change in relative balance bothers DK's? It's because people who rolled DK's never bothered to roll another toon because they actually were .....
The best DPS
The best Tank
The second best heals (though none of them even bothered leveling this to find out the power of their passives)

Seriously though, I kind of agree with you. If your going to make Templars to excellent DPS we should all be able to do excellent heals. It's not like they had trouble finding work. It wasn't the class I would have buffed. I have some crazy talk, how about we buff Sorcs and NB's so you can actually find them in Cyridill to complete your kill quest. It would also be nice if I could get my sorc in a Sanctum group once a week to get his coffer. Seriously, 52 completes last Sanctum week and only 54 total Sorcs. So broke, so very broke. But it's not that big an issue. Why, you ask? Because there are no end game players left with only sorcs. They all rolled second toons or quit.

Templar's, you want an execute, how about my sorc gets a push button powerful group heal. I would also like: a weavable high dps skill, good aoe skill, or at least some utility like chains, igneous weapons, or corrosive armor, that is good enough for a group to need to drag us along. Incidentally, whose utility's were those I mentioned? DKKKKKKKKK for the domination of the world, only class you need, we can do AA in 9min all by ourselves, forever and always the best at everything, 10k+ dps on Sanctum trash pull, please don't nerf us because we are not overpowered, WINS. I would complain more but now I am a DK as well. I'll try not to cry in my soup while I laugh maniacally and burn the world down. And yes, I crafted my DK's armor on my Sorc, so he helped, sort of.

Tonnopesce

Panda244 wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

My healing springs crit for 360 hp and my Blessing of Restoration crit nearly 1 k on live no templar can do it and i do belive that with the right choices in the ch pionts the number will increase moooore.
I'm doing the dk healer from 5 days now and i've already healed tru all the engame except trials....

Aye, DKs are technically the second best healers in the game... The only reason they aren't the best, is because they don't have Purifying Ritual or Breath of Life.

You can easy replace the cleansing with the pvp cleanse, if you do group play with a guild on ts when the others call the purge tou heal them a lot more than a purifing.

Yes we do lack of breath of life but comeon.... is like playng easy mode, the worst thing is that most of the groups are used with templars and they dont know how to handle a dk healer

manny254

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

My healing springs crit for 360 hp and my Blessing of Restoration crit nearly 1 k on live no templar can do it and i do belive that with the right choices in the ch pionts the number will increase moooore.
I'm doing the dk healer from 5 days now and i've already healed tru all the engame except trials....

Aye, DKs are technically the second best healers in the game... The only reason they aren't the best, is because they don't have Purifying Ritual or Breath of Life.

You can easy replace the cleansing with the pvp cleanse, if you do group play with a guild on ts when the others call the purge tou heal them a lot more than a purifing.

Yes we do lack of breath of life but comeon.... is like playng easy mode, the worst thing is that most of the groups are used with templars and they dont know how to handle a dk healer

He may be talking about ritual as a HoT. It is very underrated skill.

Digiman

monkeymystic wrote: »

DKs really got a big nerf across the board for 1.6, too much in my opinion (they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)
At the same time they buffed Templars even more (what? they were already strong).

Templars on PTS are:
The best healers.
The best DPS (and they are not limited to melee range, they can choose..)
The best tank.
The new execute ability is so unbalanced its a joke.


Balance 1.6 please, before everyone has rerolled templar..

I agree that the new execute ability needs to be toned down, I mean sorcerers only works when its 20% I can't see why they can't do something similar.

But disagree that DK are nerfed hard. They are balanced now, they aren't going to suffer when tanking and they won't be god mode in PvP either.

JLB

Monkey Monkey, back to your old ways again?
You forgot to say your main is a Templar this time

Cinbri

DK balanced now and templars are nerfed to the underground. All strong dk who thought to reroll into templars, already changed their mind. In several words: l2p coz thread is stupid.

Asgari

Dk is balanced. Not nerfed. They got brought into line where they should be. Wish i could say the same for my sorc.

Alcast

monkeymystic wrote: »

DKs really got a big nerf across the board for 1.6, too much in my opinion (they are useless healers, and lack range dps/utility as a class)
At the same time they buffed Templars even more (what? they were already strong).

Templars on PTS are:
The best healers.
The best DPS (and they are not limited to melee range, they can choose..)
The best tank.
The new execute ability is so unbalanced its a joke.


Balance 1.6 please, before everyone has rerolled templar..

Please explain to me where you got these infos from? DKs are still the TOP DPSers.Otherwise enlighten me with your secret about temps doing OP dps