Crushing Shock Nerf. Zos you are all idiots, you hate sorcerers, and you all Use dragonknights/Bows

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Title says it all.

WebBull

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Title says it all.

It does. It says you are an immature fool. Now get back to class.

jopeymonster

FYI - Crushing shock is a weapon skill. It equally "nerfs" everyone, not just Sorcs.

prototypefb

This just proves players are scared of change, stuck in mindset of OP builds and don't want to adapt to new awesome changes that will hit live servers.
yeah there are still issues but there is still time to fix those

Iyas

sorc op

Snit

prototypefb wrote: »

This just proves players are scared of change...

I would say it proves that one player, the OP, has not yet learned how to express his opinions in a manner that has any real chance of being well received.

But the Force Shock nerf does matter to magicka sorcs, as it has been our primary DPS skill forever.

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Snit wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

This just proves players are scared of change...

I would say it proves that one player, the OP, has not yet learned how to express his opinions in a manner that has any real chance of being well received.

But the Force Shock nerf does matter to magicka sorcs, as it has been our primary DPS skill forever.

Yeah because its obvious FROM THE NOTES, THEY HAVE NOT ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY PLAYER that plays a sorc. Daedric Summing is utter crap no one asked for this crap skill tree to be re worked. you try playing with half assed mindless daedra that can LITERALLY BE ONE SHOTTED BY PLAYERS.

Then again theres no point in even replying to fools like you, when Zos Devs need to poop you open your mouth and let them crap all over you and rub it all over your face.

Robbmrp

Snit wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

This just proves players are scared of change...

I would say it proves that one player, the OP, has not yet learned how to express his opinions in a manner that has any real chance of being well received.

But the Force Shock nerf does matter to magicka sorcs, as it has been our primary DPS skill forever.

The problem isn't that Force Shock got nerfed. The problem is that ZoS didn't give Sorcerers decent Magicka DPS Spells in their own skill line. Sorcerer's shouldn't have to select a spell outside their skill line to get decent DPS. They also shouldn't have to RELY on Pets for decent DPS.

Armitas

Why open a thread you know will be closed and put no useful information in it?

Snit

Robbmrp wrote: »

The problem isn't that Force Shock got nerfed. The problem is that ZoS didn't give Sorcerers decent Magicka DPS Spells in their own skill line

Oh, I agree. Mage's Fury should be a primary nuke with an execute attached, not just an execute.

Snit

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because its obvious FROM THE NOTES, THEY HAVE NOT...

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that, in the entire history of human interaction, I doubt anyone has changed someone's mind about an issue by starting out with "YOU'RE AN IDIOT." It never works.

Imryll

I'd really rather they give us a class nuke we'd want to use as our primary DPS. It seems like class balance would be much easier if we were less dependent on weapon skills. Not to mention that it's just silly that a class called "sorcerer" doesn't have a non-situational nuke.

WebBull

Armitas wrote: »

Why open a thread you know will be closed and put no useful information in it?

Kids will be kids

Palidon

If it one thing I have learned about ZOS is complaining will get you know where and structured criticism is sometimes listened to and sometime not. ZOS is going to do whatever they want and suits their fancy in the long run. Some areas they have made better and many others worse. In my opinion many of the changes in 1.6 were not needed or warranted and once live will completely restructure the game. Why all the changes? who knows. You will either have to adapt to the new game play and character builds or walk away.

angelyn

Snit wrote: »

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because its obvious FROM THE NOTES, THEY HAVE NOT...

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that, in the entire history of human interaction, I doubt anyone has changed someone's mind about an issue by starting out with "YOU'RE AN IDIOT." It never works.

I am also worried about the changes to crushing shock and agree that PVE sorcerers need looking at(as I've mentioned in a few other threads). I am upset that the only 3 class skills I used and half the skills on my sorc bar were nerfed. I'm worried that light armour scaled in a ratio of 1:2, when heavy/medium scaled in a ratio of 1:4. I'm also worried that due to the way enchants scaled, I will need 3 fire resist glyphs and all 24CPS(which I don't even have because I'm not yet VR14) to get the same percentage of fire resistance in PTS that I had in live. This means that despite the 10% reduction in vulnerability I will take more damage from fire. I'm a dark elf, which I would play even if I wasn't a vampire- their fire resistance on PTS looks very dodgy compared to live so even a possible nerf there. What I'm saying is that I feel I have plenty of reason to complain and can understand how upset you feel.

However, I also agree with @Snit here, that calling the ZOS devs idiots, isn't going to make them want to listen to you regarding issues. In fact it might make them want to disregard what you say entirely, therefore nullifying any hope that they may look into the issue(which isn't what we want).

Robbmrp

Snit wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

The problem isn't that Force Shock got nerfed. The problem is that ZoS didn't give Sorcerers decent Magicka DPS Spells in their own skill line

Oh, I agree. Mage's Fury should be a primary nuke with an execute attached, not just an execute.

Exactly!

Fissh

You catch more bees with honey. Just saying.
Kids open with insults. Maturity opens with constructiveness. But hey, do what you want....Merica!

Robbmrp

angelyn wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because its obvious FROM THE NOTES, THEY HAVE NOT...

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that, in the entire history of human interaction, I doubt anyone has changed someone's mind about an issue by starting out with "YOU'RE AN IDIOT." It never works.

I am also worried about the changes to crushing shock and agree that PVE sorcerers need looking at(as I've mentioned in a few other threads).

However, I also agree with @Snit here, that calling the ZOS devs idiots, isn't going to make them want to listen to you regarding issues. In fact it might make them want to disregard what you say entirely, therefore nullifying any hope that they may look into the issue(which isn't what we want).

Umm, I think you guys need to take a look at the thread below. It could give you a different opinion about things.... LMAO

People are using 2h Weapons with Brawler and getting INSANE 1 shot kills...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/151164/can-we-get-a-hotfix-on-pts#latest

angelyn

Robbmrp wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because its obvious FROM THE NOTES, THEY HAVE NOT...

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that, in the entire history of human interaction, I doubt anyone has changed someone's mind about an issue by starting out with "YOU'RE AN IDIOT." It never works.

I am also worried about the changes to crushing shock and agree that PVE sorcerers need looking at(as I've mentioned in a few other threads).

However, I also agree with @Snit here, that calling the ZOS devs idiots, isn't going to make them want to listen to you regarding issues. In fact it might make them want to disregard what you say entirely, therefore nullifying any hope that they may look into the issue(which isn't what we want).

Umm, I think you guys need to take a look at the thread below. It could give you a different opinion about things.... LMAO

People are using 2h Weapons with Brawler and getting INSANE 1 shot kills...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/151164/can-we-get-a-hotfix-on-pts#latest

I'd just edited my original post which explains that I'm also not happy with some changes that have been implemented, however I probably won't be calling the devs idiots if I want them to read the rest of what I'm saying, but that's just my opinion.

Joy_Division

The guy who thinks Crushing Shock is a sorcerer skill or will only effect sorcerers is calling ZoS idiots. The irony...

joshisanonymous

Snit wrote: »

But the Force Shock nerf does matter to magicka sorcs, as it has been our primary DPS skill forever.

That's most definitely exaggeration. I don't remember seeing this skill ever being used from launch until at least 5 months in (when I stopped playing for a bit). And if you look over on the Alliance War forum, you can find a fairly recent video of Legendary Mage using a build focused on Crushing Shock and even in that thread there's someone saying he's stupid for using just that skill for DPS. The majority are very much in agreement that it works, and a large number of duelers seem to build around it, suggesting it's probably overpowered, but I gather that this is very much a recent phenomenon.

Dracane

I agree, that ZoS appearently does not like Sorcerers or mage's in general.
But they aren't idiots, no need to insult anyone. This is a bit harsh.

Saint_JiubB14_ESO

joshisanonymous wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

But the Force Shock nerf does matter to magicka sorcs, as it has been our primary DPS skill forever.

That's most definitely exaggeration. I don't remember seeing this skill ever being used from launch until at least 5 months in (when I stopped playing for a bit). And if you look over on the Alliance War forum, you can find a fairly recent video of Legendary Mage using a build focused on Crushing Shock and even in that thread there's someone saying he's stupid for using just that skill for DPS. The majority are very much in agreement that it works, and a large number of duelers seem to build around it, suggesting it's probably overpowered, but I gather that this is very much a recent phenomenon.

It wasn't used because it had it's damage nerfed right at the end of beta and then it was buffed, so people actually used it again.

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Joy_Division wrote: »

The guy who thinks Crushing Shock is a sorcerer skill or will only effect sorcerers is calling ZoS idiots. The irony...

Where in my post did i say crushing shock was a sorc spell idiot?

TheBull

#FixCloak

ZOS_TristanK

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