Heavy Armor And Shield: Nearly Unkillable At High Champion Levels

sabresandiego_ESO

Can sit there holding block forever against 1-3 enemies.

olsborg

That permblock again. Such a bad gamemechanic.

Soulac

Fortunately there are block breaking abilitys and you won't kill anything with holding block.

You want to hold block all the time, it's your choice.. Do it.

prototypefb

i hope at least zos will address block casting which will fix it, blockinjg should be powerfull means of protection, give great survivability, even vs multiple targets, tho it shouldn't allow MR Turtle to kill off his opponents easily while doing it XD

olsborg

360 blocking tho, stupid. "Im holding a shield infront of my face, and my ass gets the same kind of protection" Its a game, yes, but man....bleh.

aco5712

you do realise that the tank will tank 3 people pretty easily otherwise your a *** tank lol. and like mentioned above, some moves go through block. if you can tank 3 people perma blocking, you dont have much specced into dps because your built to take damage.

BoloBoffin

OK, I wasn't blocking - but I just got one-shotted in Cyrodiil.



With a light attack, no less. What the what?

BoloBoffin

And this time for 1.4 million damage.

BoloBoffin

And finally, 7.4 million one-shot:



With that kind of possible damage out there, how can a tank do anything but block?

kkampaseb17_ESO

BoloBoffin wrote: »

With that kind of possible damage out there, how can a tank do anything but block?

Tell me this is some kind of funny post? You do understand this is bug right?

BoloBoffin

kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »

BoloBoffin wrote: »

With that kind of possible damage out there, how can a tank do anything but block?

Tell me this is some kind of funny post? You do understand this is bug right?

Good!

McDoogs

Soulac wrote: »

you won't kill anything with holding block.

Oh yeah?

Armitas

As long as there is a trade off to permablocking i'm ok with it. That trade off being completely useless to your alliance because you show up and just hold block.

But if it's got to be fixed I think it would be far easier to put in a PvP constellation or moon within the CP system that gives PvPers the ability to deal with this. Adding block penetration against players or increased damage to blockers (a la temp). This way tanks won't have to get 1 shotted while taunting a boss in PvE because they can no longer block cast their essentials.

Orchish

So what you are saying is a tank should not be able to tank 3 enemies? despite the fact you stand no chance of killing them unless you're a light armour tank with shields stacked of course. If a tank can only tank 1 enemy then why even have tanks at all?

LtCrunch

olsborg wrote: »

360 blocking tho, stupid. "Im holding a shield infront of my face, and my ass gets the same kind of protection" Its a game, yes, but man....bleh.

It is kinda lame but due to latency it needs to be in there.

Oughash

Armitas wrote: »

As long as there is a trade off to permablocking i'm ok with it. That trade off being completely useless to your alliance because you show up and just hold block.

But if it's got to be fixed I think it would be far easier to put in a PvP constellation or moon within the CP system that gives PvPers the ability to deal with this. Adding block penetration against players or increased damage to blockers (a la temp). This way tanks won't have to get 1 shotted while taunting a boss in PvE because they can no longer block cast their essentials.

Once people are able to traverse deeper into the CP constellations and get the block cost reduction perks, I think you will see a new PvP build: DK, sw/sh, permablock, w/ the Alliance War skill that grabs projectiles. i.e. a true PvP tank. While this character will not do much damage, the amount of mitigation will make it priceless for group play.

McDoogs

Honestly I feel like having unkillable pvp tanks is terrible for pvp gameplay, especially when they are unkillable just because they hold down one button and periodically apply a self heal or damage shield. It's an incredibly easy way to play, with almost zero ways to counter (NB and WW fear are the only things I know of that penetrate block).

NoRefunds

petrify and spear shards can penetrate block aswell now,without champ points block cost is pretty high but with full champ points you can block forever

Jitterbug

BoloBoffin wrote: »

And this time for 1.4 million damage.

obviously you should have brought a friend and charged up a heavy attack.

scrub...

LtCrunch

McDoogs wrote: »

Honestly I feel like having unkillable pvp tanks is terrible for pvp gameplay, especially when they are unkillable just because they hold down one button and periodically apply a self heal or damage shield. It's an incredibly easy way to play, with almost zero ways to counter (NB and WW fear are the only things I know of that penetrate block).

Ground based AOE is no longer unlockable, and I believe Agony and Rune Prison also penetrate block now.

LtCrunch

Ishammael wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

As long as there is a trade off to permablocking i'm ok with it. That trade off being completely useless to your alliance because you show up and just hold block.

But if it's got to be fixed I think it would be far easier to put in a PvP constellation or moon within the CP system that gives PvPers the ability to deal with this. Adding block penetration against players or increased damage to blockers (a la temp). This way tanks won't have to get 1 shotted while taunting a boss in PvE because they can no longer block cast their essentials.

Once people are able to traverse deeper into the CP constellations and get the block cost reduction perks, I think you will see a new PvP build: DK, sw/sh, permablock, w/ the Alliance War skill that grabs projectiles. i.e. a true PvP tank. While this character will not do much damage, the amount of mitigation will make it priceless for group play.

This would be great. As it stands right now a true tank isn't really required in PVP and it's largely pointless to be specced in such a way. I would love to see tanking become a useful role in PVP. It adds another layer of strategy to Cyrodiil. Imagine how useful such a spec would be for keep defense or for storming into breaches! An Emp with such a spec would be awe-inspiring.