NB- Elude + Mirage

morvegil

Any run this combo in PVP? good bad or meh?

Jacques Berge

dodge and miss don't stack. Having both is useless. Blur is by far the worst Nightblade move.

morvegil

Well they don't stack...but I tested in pve and one does dodge while the other does miss

Jacques Berge

morvegil wrote: »

Well they don't stack...but I tested in pve and one does dodge while the other does miss

Right, it's effectiveness is entirely chance, you could theoretically avoid up to 30% of attacks, with a minimum of 15%. That, to me is pointless, and not worth a skill slot.

Cody

They don't stack. One is a miss chance, the other is a dodge chance. Two different mechanics.

Blur is without a doubt one of the worst NB skills in the entire game(possibly one of THE worst skills in the entire game). The miss chance skills of the other classes are at least twice as much as Blur.

If it was not for the NB skill Agony, Blur would without a doubt be the worst NB skill in the game.

Yusuf

Jacques Berge wrote: »

dodge and miss don't stack. Having both is useless. Blur is by far the worst Nightblade move.

You can build quite a good tanking-build in medium armor so it's not useless.
That's coming from pve though, i'd never use that combination pvp and if, i would use Double Take (Morph of Blur) over Elude to save some precious stamina.

Jacques Berge

Yusuf wrote: »

Jacques Berge wrote: »

dodge and miss don't stack. Having both is useless. Blur is by far the worst Nightblade move.

You can build quite a good tanking-build in medium armor so it's not useless.
That's coming from pve though, i'd never use that combination pvp and if, i would use Double Take (Morph of Blur) over Elude to save some precious stamina.

Dodge tank is cool... But bosses are immune to miss chance... Making miss chance skills useless.

Yusuf

No they're not... i tanked City of Ash on veteran in 7/7 medium last night.
And my add-on tells me "dodged" when i dodge and "missed" when blur procced, it works on bosses as well

Jacques Berge

Yusuf wrote: »

No they're not... i tanked City of Ash on veteran in 7/7 medium last night.
And my add-on tells me "dodged" when i dodge and "missed" when blur procced, it works on bosses as well

Your add on is lying to ou then, bosses are immune to miss chance, can I get some one else to chime in? Regardless, if you're still successfully tanking vet CoA I don't think it matters that much.

Lynx7386

Jacques Berge wrote: »

Yusuf wrote: »

No they're not... i tanked City of Ash on veteran in 7/7 medium last night.
And my add-on tells me "dodged" when i dodge and "missed" when blur procced, it works on bosses as well

Your add on is lying to ou then, bosses are immune to miss chance, can I get some one else to chime in? Regardless, if you're still successfully tanking vet CoA I don't think it matters that much.

bosses are immune to debuffs (which must be applied to them) which increase their miss chance. They're not immune to buffs a player applies to himself which may affect the boss' ability to hit him or her.

LegacyDM

Yusuf wrote: »

Jacques Berge wrote: »

dodge and miss don't stack. Having both is useless. Blur is by far the worst Nightblade move.

You can build quite a good tanking-build in medium armor so it's not useless.
That's coming from pve though, i'd never use that combination pvp and if, i would use Double Take (Morph of Blur) over Elude to save some precious stamina.

Double take morph doesn't last long enough to be viable in pvp. When you add up the cast time animation + the timer length it is useless.