Templar v14 -100500% spellcost xD

B11zzard

ThatHappyCat

Teach me your secrets, oh master.

Gyudan

Or maybe a lot of spell cost reduction, including spell symmetry.

Heavy armor VR8 templar with no magicka cost reduction at all:

B11zzard

Thank you for basic cost. Tried to find it!

Gyudan

B11zzard wrote: »

Thank you for basic cost. Tried to find it!

It actually includes the 4% cost reduction from "Restoring Spirit" passive, sorry.

Soris

slipperypickle

i want that cat it is so cool

CPT_CAPSLOCK

63 Points Jewelry Glyphs - Breton 3% - Seducer 8% - Arch Mage 8% - Templar passive 4% - light armor 21% - Spell Symmetry 28%

B11zzard

You will not receive 96 by using all those. You can try.

Gyudan

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

63 Points Jewelry Glyphs - Breton 3% - Seducer 8% - Arch Mage 8% - Templar passive 4% - light armor 21% - Spell Symmetry 28%

You can add worm cult to the list (just an ally standing next to you).

B11zzard

Yeah.

Also, I found interesting thing. I had arch-mage blue v12 neck, legendary v14 aether healer ring (weekly reward) and epic v12 aether healer ring. All with epic cost enchants (-20). My breath costed 234 (arch-mage+seducer my usually equip).

Then i made 3 legendary enchants, but breath was still 234. (213 with worm cult, 96 with spell symmetry).

Yesterday i received second v14 legendary aether healer ring. So i enchanted it by kuta (21) and change my v12 epic ring by v14 legendary. And then suddenly i saw my breath cost 232. (212 with worm cult but still 96 with spell symmetry).

So, it looks like legendary enchant don't work by 100% on epic ring.

Gyudan

B11zzard wrote: »

Yeah.

Also, I found interesting thing. I had arch-mage blue v12 neck, legendary v14 aether healer ring (weekly reward) and epic v12 aether healer ring. All with epic cost enchants (-20). My breath costed 234 (arch-mage+seducer my usually equip).

Then i made 3 legendary enchants, but breath was still 234. (213 with worm cult, 96 with spell symmetry).

Yesterday i received second v14 legendary aether healer ring. So i enchanted it by kuta (21) and change my v12 epic ring by v14 legendary. And then suddenly i saw my breath cost 232. (212 with worm cult but still 96 with spell symmetry).

So, it looks like legendary enchant don't work by 100% on epic ring.

Thanks for the numbers. I never bothered enchanting endgame rings with anything other than a Kuta, but it's strange to see that there's no difference between epic and legendary glyphs :<

Did you try eyes of mara instead of seducer for healing staff abilities? I'd like to know how low combat prayer and healing springs can go, both with and without spell symmetry.

B11zzard

I never even crafted mara. Necrotic rules on mobs group, so spring's spellcost isn't important. Maybe mara helps at HM AA , but i never had troubles here.

Sorcer has "unholy knowlerge" passive, so i can't make the "lowest cost ever" even if i want.

Magdalina

Gyudan wrote: »

B11zzard wrote: »

Yeah.

Also, I found interesting thing. I had arch-mage blue v12 neck, legendary v14 aether healer ring (weekly reward) and epic v12 aether healer ring. All with epic cost enchants (-20). My breath costed 234 (arch-mage+seducer my usually equip).

Then i made 3 legendary enchants, but breath was still 234. (213 with worm cult, 96 with spell symmetry).

Yesterday i received second v14 legendary aether healer ring. So i enchanted it by kuta (21) and change my v12 epic ring by v14 legendary. And then suddenly i saw my breath cost 232. (212 with worm cult but still 96 with spell symmetry).

So, it looks like legendary enchant don't work by 100% on epic ring.

Thanks for the numbers. I never bothered enchanting endgame rings with anything other than a Kuta, but it's strange to see that there's no difference between epic and legendary glyphs :<

Did you try eyes of mara instead of seducer for healing staff abilities? I'd like to know how low combat prayer and healing springs can go, both with and without spell symmetry.

Healing springs -105 on breton sorc with Mara, epic reduce spellcost enchants and spell symm...not that I use it, but out of curiosity xD
Rapid regeneration - 57 ahahaha.
Combat prayer - 114.

No ally with full Wormcult

Yolokin_Swagonborn

I was curious about whether arch-mage + seducer was worth it. Don't you have to run 1H&S or DW to make that work?

itsBishop

Magdalina wrote: »

Healing springs -105 on breton sorc with Mara, epic reduce spellcost enchants and spell symm...not that I use it, but out of curiosity xD

Factor in the 26 magicka return each for up to 3 allies affected by healing springs and that cost drops down to 27.

Back in the day when healing springs would return magicka for 6 allies affected it was costing me around 52 magicka per cast as a Breton with 2x legendary spell cost reduction glyphs. Essentially an infinitely spammable area heal. Solo healing AA (including solo novaing the final mage burn) was no issue.

Gyudan

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

I was curious about whether arch-mage + seducer was worth it. Don't you have to run 1H&S or DW to make that work?

Yep, I forgot that Arch-mage has no rings. No super cheap healing springs I guess :<

Tankqull

Gyudan wrote: »

B11zzard wrote: »

Yeah.

Also, I found interesting thing. I had arch-mage blue v12 neck, legendary v14 aether healer ring (weekly reward) and epic v12 aether healer ring. All with epic cost enchants (-20). My breath costed 234 (arch-mage+seducer my usually equip).

Then i made 3 legendary enchants, but breath was still 234. (213 with worm cult, 96 with spell symmetry).

Yesterday i received second v14 legendary aether healer ring. So i enchanted it by kuta (21) and change my v12 epic ring by v14 legendary. And then suddenly i saw my breath cost 232. (212 with worm cult but still 96 with spell symmetry).

So, it looks like legendary enchant don't work by 100% on epic ring.

Thanks for the numbers. I never bothered enchanting endgame rings with anything other than a Kuta, but it's strange to see that there's no difference between epic and legendary glyphs :<

Did you try eyes of mara instead of seducer for healing staff abilities? I'd like to know how low combat prayer and healing springs can go, both with and without spell symmetry.

the enchants work 100% - the math behind the calculations made it look as not as effective.
(base value-jewel value) - %reduction

Magdalina

On a side note, does anyone know if Worm Cult bonus stacks? Someone told me Ebon does, but Worm? If it does that'd be soooo OP...just find 10 ppl with full Worm, send them into Trial and have free spells for everyone:D

Kuratius

Hm.... anyone care to try whether you can get necrotic orb to a point where it grants you free magicka if you manage to hit at least 3 or 5 mobs? I could imagine all the healers spamming necrotic orb and healing springs together and never running out of mana in trials.
Edit: Actually, make that all the healers and magicka based casters spamming necrotic orb, should be interesting. Might also open the way for unlimited dps, who knows?