Any chance for a flying blade rework on this patch ?

Sarousse · July 2020

A few patches ago Flying Blade was changed, to a totally unpractical skill :

"Fire a secret dagger from your sleeve at an enemy, dealing 509 Physical Damage and marking them for 5 seconds. If the enemy hit is casting an ability they are interrupted, set Off Balance, and stunned for 3 seconds. While an enemy is marked, reactivating this ability on them allows you to jump to them, dealing 509 Physical Damage and grants you Major Brutality, increasing your Weapon Damage by 20% for 40 seconds."

Very few players are using it (in PvP at least).

Any chance for it to be reworked so we get a real spammable for the dual wield branch ? That would add another option other than using Dizzy Swing.

tsaescishoeshiner · July 2020

DW already has Flurry as a spammable. What's wrong with Flurry, and/or why have two spammables in a skill line if Flying Blade were also a spammable?

I used to use the old Flying Blade as a spammable and I really miss it, especially the bounces that increased damage. That was fun. The range on the skill doesn't help THAT much, since you can't light attack weave with it unless the enemy is in melee range, anyway.

Sarousse · July 2020

Flurry is totally useless in PvP, though it's a powerful PvE skill.

There's no real alternative to wrecking blow in PvP right now, too powerful, too many side effects.

Lolnado is very clunky, + it's AoE damage. In PvP, 50% of the time either it doesn't hit targets or just it doesn't fire, and is highly mitigated thanks to major evason.

Dual wield needs a real monotarget spammable with high damage and useful side effets.

Mayrael · July 2020

Sarousse wrote: »

Flurry is totally useless in PvP, though it's a powerful PvE skill.

There's no real alternative to wrecking blow in PvP right now, too powerful, too many side effects.

Lolnado is very clunky, + it's AoE damage. In PvP, 50% of the time either it doesn't hit targets or just it doesn't fire, and is highly mitigated thanks to major evason.

Dual wield needs a real monotarget spammable with high damage and useful side effets.

Actually flurry is used pretty often and it is very dangerous skill, I've seen many great players use this skill.

Sarousse · July 2020

In battlegrounds maybe. In Cyrodiil, I think I've seen it twice in 6 monthes in my death recap.

I'd be curious to seen ZoS stats on this skill use.

kalunte · July 2020

would be something like "this skills is working as intended". in facts you may not like flying blade, your claim about flurry is wrong, you just dont like flurry neither while this skill and morph have very ok-ish dmg + benefit from a passive against CC'd target + execute that no other skill in game as.

Vevvev · July 2020

Seems to me they reworked it into a gap closer that gives the major brutality buff for 40 seconds which is pretty neat. Two handed has critical charge so giving dual wield a gap closer seems like a good idea. If you want the spammable version there is Shrouded Daggers.

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shrouded+Daggers

ssewallb14_ESO · July 2020

Yeah why is there a gap closer that takes two casts and has no other advantages besides major brutality? This seems deliberately terrible.

Finedaible · July 2020

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Yeah why is there a gap closer that takes two casts and has no other advantages besides major brutality? This seems deliberately terrible.

Yep. Meanwhile Two-Hander be pre-buffing from stealth for major Brutality while also gaining minor endurance, because rogues obviously want to use heavy, clunky, noisy two-handers for assassination. Yet they took minor endurance from Grim Focus as well. Make sense much?

Sarousse · July 2020

I've tried many times to use it, but It's totally clunky, unpractical, useless in any situation in Cyrodiil. Damage is low, other melee moves will proc unbalance in better ways, , double cast is terrible and major brutality comes from better sources.

It definitively needs a rework, especially as the fifth skill from the dual wield skill line, it's supposed to be the "strongest" skill, but it's the worst.

HowellQagan · November 2020

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

DW already has Flurry as a spammable. What's wrong with Flurry, and/or why have two spammables in a skill line if Flying Blade were also a spammable?

I used to use the old Flying Blade as a spammable and I really miss it, especially the bounces that increased damage. That was fun. The range on the skill doesn't help THAT much, since you can't light attack weave with it unless the enemy is in melee range, anyway.

The other morph bounces between targets though.

Firstmep · November 2020

HowellQagan wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

DW already has Flurry as a spammable. What's wrong with Flurry, and/or why have two spammables in a skill line if Flying Blade were also a spammable?

I used to use the old Flying Blade as a spammable and I really miss it, especially the bounces that increased damage. That was fun. The range on the skill doesn't help THAT much, since you can't light attack weave with it unless the enemy is in melee range, anyway.

The other morph bounces between targets though.

Sold necro.

On the topic of flying blade, with the new arena dw I've been able to pull some pretty good numbers from shrouded daggers, highest was 12k crit, but you can probably go higher even.

ESO_Nightingale · November 2020

while this post was necroed, i thought i'd post my take. personally i think the idea for flying blade is interesting, but it fails in a few areas. throwing a projectile to mark the target with the jump is extremely slow, having to re-aim onto the target in order to activate the teleport is slow and annoying, and the jump itself feels laggy. overall it's just too slow. if the dagger projectile was instead an instant application such as like with elemental drain, and you could recast the skill at any time to teleport, you could use the skill to juke, and it would honestly be quite good. however, i don't think that the flying blade skill is quite the right target for this kind of idea.

YandereGirlfriend · November 2020

I had the Vateshran DW drop for me and wanted to try it out since I barely ever have used this skill.

In PvE it was actually kind of interesting to use as a spammable. Its damage surpassed Flurry at something like something like ~75% of boss HP and it became ridiculously cheap to cast once the boss dropped under 50%.

Of course, before that its cost is crazily high for a spammable, but overall it worked better than I figured that it would.

In PvP though, this skill is still a huge mess.

The gap-close morph should honestly be on the first cast and Major Brutality should be moved to the base morph of the skill.