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So this is made to be so hard dungeon that its impossible to complete it with casual players. you ahve to brake the game mechanics at the boss for able to kill them. ''like sorceres pet tanking Pinaccle fire boss the whole fight'' also finding the group for this is impossible cos no one whats to even try taht cos ITS IMPOSSIBLE. i ahve killed it only ones with no healm drop. our group was me with 336cp and others had more than me but why you have even someone with less cp . you are [snip]!!! TY cos making this BIS helmet farming impossible for most of the pll ^^
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Edited by ZOS_Racheal on 30 October 2015 21:01 [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
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FalconstarSoul ShrivenYeah.. right now casual should go to normal mode instead of vet.. V15 and V16 difference isn't that big for the boss helm with v16 shoulder from undaunted chest. It will be nerved soon or later.. Maybe a while after Orsinium.Here, have a fishy stick. -
Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭The trick to doing this dungeon is that everyone who is in your group has to know their build inside and out, what does what how to handle mobs, bosses, damage...how to heal effectively and most importantly (for me) how to hold a boss without dying.
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HellarSoul ShrivenYou can have 1k CPs and it wont help you if ppl cant play and follow tatcics. Its not a hard dungeon imo. But its true that its hard with randoms. My advice is to use TS and dont give up and try to run it with same ppl. When you get used to it its a cake!Hellar | Altmer | Templar | Healer
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Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭Working for achievement is among the greatest satisfactions a player can experience. Making hard content results in some players being incapable of completing it while making content easy dissatisfies a larger half of the populace who want to strain their nerves, wrack their brains and test their skills. White-Gold Tower is hard content meant to do just that. It should, under no circumstance, be dumbed down or made easier.
The power fantasy is not satisfied just by being overwhelmingly powerful - it can be satisfied by being overwhelmingly underpowered and still coming out on top. (e.g. Dark Souls)"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Also. I still think Sorc Pet Tanking is more clever than game breaking, it doesn't work on Kena or anything. Just the Inhibitor.
@shadesofkin -NA Server.
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✭I really wish ZOS would just come out and say it. Normal = casual. Veteran = hardcore. Like it should be. -
I have cleared it atleast 70x,. it is not that hard,.. It does not need to be nerfd at all,. just practise.
It is part of the hardest content in game, your supposed to find it a challenge,. There is no reason why it should be a face roll for everyone...and if your wondering,. i only have 292 cp,
So i suggest you stop complaining and go get some friends and practise like we did,.. our 1st attempt we took 6h to complete. now we do 30min runs. -
Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can have 1k CPs and it wont help you if ppl cant play and follow tatcics. Its not a hard dungeon imo. But its true that its hard with randoms. My advice is to use TS and dont give up and try to run it with same ppl. When you get used to it its a cake!
The biggest issue with this is that I've had pug players refuse flat out to be in TS with us, so we end up having to kick them and wait for another chance to find a player. Thankfully more and more of our guildmates are getting brave enough to try it.@shadesofkin -NA Server.
Tier 2 Player.
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Wolfster✭✭✭smokebudsb16_ESO wrote: »I have cleared it atleast 70x,. it is not that hard,.. It does not need to be nerfd at all,. just practise.
It is part of the hardest content in game, your supposed to find it a challenge,. There is no reason why it should be a face roll for everyone...and if your wondering,. i only have 292 cp,
So i suggest you stop complaining and go get some friends and practise like we did,.. our 1st attempt we took 6h to complete. now we do 30min runs.
Pretty much agree with this. It's absolutely not impossible.
Find a half-decent guild and don't expect to PUG what is supposed to be the hardest content in the game right now. -
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✭Shadesofkin wrote: »You can have 1k CPs and it wont help you if ppl cant play and follow tatcics. Its not a hard dungeon imo. But its true that its hard with randoms. My advice is to use TS and dont give up and try to run it with same ppl. When you get used to it its a cake!
The biggest issue with this is that I've had pug players refuse flat out to be in TS with us, so we end up having to kick them and wait for another chance to find a player. Thankfully more and more of our guildmates are getting brave enough to try it.
Biggest issue are randoms... -
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✭✭✭Shadesofkin wrote: »You can have 1k CPs and it wont help you if ppl cant play and follow tatcics. Its not a hard dungeon imo. But its true that its hard with randoms. My advice is to use TS and dont give up and try to run it with same ppl. When you get used to it its a cake!
The biggest issue with this is that I've had pug players refuse flat out to be in TS with us, so we end up having to kick them and wait for another chance to find a player. Thankfully more and more of our guildmates are getting brave enough to try it.
Biggest issue are randoms...
Biggest issue is that non randoms have left the game.
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Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
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More to goShadesofkin wrote: »You can have 1k CPs and it wont help you if ppl cant play and follow tatcics. Its not a hard dungeon imo. But its true that its hard with randoms. My advice is to use TS and dont give up and try to run it with same ppl. When you get used to it its a cake!
The biggest issue with this is that I've had pug players refuse flat out to be in TS with us, so we end up having to kick them and wait for another chance to find a player. Thankfully more and more of our guildmates are getting brave enough to try it.
Biggest issue are randoms...
Biggest issue is that non randoms have left the game.
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Get your tank to swap to dps gear, no tank required for this fight.
Everyone should be using Harness Magicka (Light armor skill) to mitigate damage while they have the boss on them.
Tip - Dont start dpsing the boss before the pinion is closed for the 1st time, or the dot tick on the 1st person will overwhelm the healer.
Follow order of group to take pinions 1-2-3-4 (skipping the person on portals)
Pinion - The person who is next on the pinion should be waiting near the middle to take it,. must be closed a.s.a.p.
Portals - Stay close to middle only spinning 360 degrees to close them, only range dps the portals.
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alfoner✭✭dark souls is for pll who whats to find something hard. and the problem is not tath its not hard to me its hard cos yiou ahve to find 3 more pll? i would love to play tath dungeon solo even it would be hard i love hard wehn it come to the playing video games but when its up to 3 other pll as well . i feel like getting their addresses and going to punch them in a face!
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✭dark souls is for pll who whats to find something hard. and the problem is not tath its not hard to me its hard cos yiou ahve to find 3 more pll? i would love to play tath dungeon solo even it would be hard i love hard wehn it come to the playing video games but when its up to 3 other pll as well . i feel like getting their addresses and going to punch them in a face!
uhhhh... your playing an mmo remember? Join a guild or something -
Lol did you just say people that want something hard need to play a different game?
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✭✭I know it is being nerfed a little when Orsinium comes out, and the gear drop rates are being buffed. It is in the latest PTS patch notes. They gave it extremely high difficulty and extremely low drop rates to keep us busy until new content came out. And when Thieves Guild comes out in February or whatever, they will nerf Maelstrom Arena a bit. And so it goes. The circle of (MMO) life. -
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✭problem is all of my PVE guild are bad or there are not enoght players also i ahve tryed to find good pve guild with 0 success 0 forum answer-es and this ESO that dead??? cos i really want to be part of hardcore guild cos i ahve done hard core gaming sence burning cruisade WOW
If you're on the NA server hit me up, my name's in my sig. We'll chat about guilds.@shadesofkin -NA Server.
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ginoboehm✭✭✭✭✭So this is made to be so hard dungeon that its impossible to complete it with casual players. you ahve to brake the game mechanics at the boss for able to kill them. ''like sorceres pet tanking Pinaccle fire boss the whole fight'' also finding the group for this is impossible cos no one whats to even try taht cos ITS IMPOSSIBLE. i ahve killed it only ones with no healm drop. our group was me with 336cp and others had more than me but why you have even someone with less cp . you are [SNIP]!!! TY cos making this BIS helmet farming impossible for most of the pll ^^
go normal stop destroying the game just because you think you have to finish all content without getting good at the game
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Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭VWGT isn't that hard. Unless you have bad dps. Then it's hard. Not standing in damage and playing smart make this place a cake walk.
Really even one weak player can tip things, we had this tank...oooh boy, did not understand that one does not spam Steel Tornado when one is trying to gain Aggro.@shadesofkin -NA Server.
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✭✭Shadesofkin wrote: »VWGT isn't that hard. Unless you have bad dps. Then it's hard. Not standing in damage and playing smart make this place a cake walk.
Really even one weak player can tip things, we had this tank...oooh boy, did not understand that one does not spam Steel Tornado when one is trying to gain Aggro.
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✭✭Its not that hard but it is the current end game, if your group sucks, you will not finish. There are always guilds recruiting so try joining one of those and you might find a better group. -
Love_Chunks✭✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »Shadesofkin wrote: »VWGT isn't that hard. Unless you have bad dps. Then it's hard. Not standing in damage and playing smart make this place a cake walk.
Really even one weak player can tip things, we had this tank...oooh boy, did not understand that one does not spam Steel Tornado when one is trying to gain Aggro.
Bahaha, I've seen that a few times.
Last day of 1.6, I was in a pug with tank using a bow and when i asked them wtf they were doing they replied " i use volley then sneak around and aggro the toughest one". Healer was using dual daggers, BoL was criting for 3.5k, and we wiped on trash before the second boss in v14 fungal. Rage quit group.Me: It's[WB spamming DK] a really cheesy build
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Daveheart✭✭✭✭Unfortunately for those of us who already found the dungeon a bit too easy, they're already nerfing monster damage in vWGT and vICP next week with the Orsinium update. That being said, even now, there are videos of the dungeon with everything you need to know to burn through it.
Also, cheating the mechanics is unnecessary. If something saves you 5-10 seconds, and you've cleared the fight 200 times already, by all means go ahead and have your sorc pet tank something or whatever. However, that doesn't change the fact that Kena and the Planar Inhibitor are relatively easy with reasonably efficient builds* and knowledge of the fights' mechanics.
*reasonably efficient builds. You do not need min/maxed builds to complete these dungeons.Daggerfall Covenant (PC-NA)
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