Medicinal Use still broken

Usara

Crafting & Economy
Alchemy
Fixed the Medicinal Use passive so it once again improves the duration of consumed potions.

So, Medicinal Use is fixed, but somehow, something still doesn't work : Potions timer are 30% weaker than they used to (36.6 seconds for spell power/weapon damage with 3/3 Medicinal Use instead of 47.5 sec before when everything worked)

Latios

Medicinal use is not broken. However, it seems we have another problem.
If you pop a potion while the effects are still up(they should last 47 seconds, while the pot CD is 45), any effects like major endurance or major expedition will get refreshed for only 11 seconds. I didn't notice a problem with Major brutality or savagery on this, though.
So you need to wait for the effect to wear off for this bug not to occur. Perhaps that's what you were getting?

Rohamad_Ali

Troneon

Usara wrote: »

Crafting & Economy
Alchemy
Fixed the Medicinal Use passive so it once again improves the duration of consumed potions.

So, Medicinal Use is fixed, but somehow, something still doesn't work : Potions timer are 30% weaker than they used to (36.6 seconds for spell power/weapon damage with 3/3 Medicinal Use instead of 47.5 sec before when everything worked)

It is fixed, but they broke the tooltip...

Before patch tooltip told the truth but buff timer was bugged....

Now buff timer works and tooltip is bugged..

Pomaikai

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

Rohamad_Ali

Pomaikai wrote: »

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

This is why I drink Mountain Dew .

What's going on in that Dev room ? Is everyone hungover from making E3 community fun videos ?

Autolycus

Tired of not getting the full effect of my potions and passives. Top priority fix.

Usara

@Latios

All I know is we could be permanently under the buffs before if using the pots on CD. Now, I (and others) only get major buffs for 36+ sec, instead of 47+ sec, with a 45 sec CD unchanged.

@Troneon

Well, it's not just a tooltip/display bug, I DO have 36 sec buff (as showed in Srendarr, Character sheet active effects display and Weapon Damage and/or Spell Damage display) instead of 47 sec.



So if Med Use was fixed, then they broke the pots.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Whatzituyah

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

This is why I drink Mountain Dew .

What's going on in that Dev room ? Is everyone hungover from making E3 community fun videos ?

Gotta love the throwback stuff man...

Xundiin

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

This is why I drink Mountain Dew .

What's going on in that Dev room ? Is everyone hungover from making E3 community fun videos ?

Dr. Pepper

Rohamad_Ali

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

This is why I drink Mountain Dew .

What's going on in that Dev room ? Is everyone hungover from making E3 community fun videos ?

Gotta love the throwback stuff man...

Real Sugar . Someone should send a case to ZOS .

SwaminoNowlino

From today's patch notes:

Crafting & Economy
Alchemy
Potion tooltips will not currently display the improved duration from Medicinal Use passive. This is a display issue only.

Pomaikai

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

They hoped no one would notice the change?

Why does this feel like when Coca Cola came out with New Coke, which was completely horrible, then withdrew it and released Coke Classic, which wasn't the original Coke? All it really ever was, was a way to switch from real sugar to HFCS in order to save money without the majority of their customers ever noticing.

This is why I drink Mountain Dew .

What's going on in that Dev room ? Is everyone hungover from making E3 community fun videos ?

Gotta love the throwback stuff man...

Real Sugar . Someone should send a case to ZOS .

I'd prefer someone sent them some cajones. Maybe we should bring them a platter of Rocky Mountain Oysters to the QuakeCon Q&A session?

Troneon

Usara wrote: »

@Latios

All I know is we could be permanently under the buffs before if using the pots on CD. Now, I (and others) only get major buffs for 36+ sec, instead of 47+ sec, with a 45 sec CD unchanged.

@Troneon

Well, it's not just a tooltip/display bug, I DO have 36 sec buff (as showed in Srendarr, Character sheet active effects display and Weapon Damage and/or Spell Damage display) instead of 47 sec.



So if Med Use was fixed, then they broke the pots.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Srendarr is wrong then.....it's your addon...

My addon shows buff at 47+ secs....so does my character stats screen...

EDIT :Just double checked and IT IS WORKING CORRECTLY, tooltip is bugged though.

Usara

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

From today's patch notes:

Crafting & Economy
Alchemy
Potion tooltips will not currently display the improved duration from Medicinal Use passive. This is a display issue only.

@SwaminoNowlino

Like I said in an earlier post, I don't (and other players in my guild) still don't have the whole duration for pots.

Pomaikai

Has anyone actually just popped a potion and used a physical stopwatch to time the darned thing?

Troneon

Usara wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

From today's patch notes:

Crafting & Economy
Alchemy
Potion tooltips will not currently display the improved duration from Medicinal Use passive. This is a display issue only.

@SwaminoNowlino

Like I said in an earlier post, I don't (and other players in my guild) still don't have the whole duration for pots.

It's your addon giving you false information.

It is fixed.

Mine shows full 47+ sec cooldown and buff and I keep my spell damage for the full amount of time in character select screen.

SwaminoNowlino

@Pomaikai @Usara

@Troneon did appear to test it and confirmed its the tool tip that's bugged. I don't know one way or the other and meant to mention that in my post. I read this then read the patch notes and didn't see that part at the bottom mentioned here.

I'm all on board the ZOS borderline incompetence train, so I'm not saying it's fixed. Just adding that note to the conversation.

Editing to add that while I am generally on board that train, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom is doing one heck of a good job and should be commended on it as such.

Usara

@Troneon

Not my addon Add ons - or at least the ones I have - don't change the info on the character sheet.

@Pomaikai

Yes, I poped a pot and checked - with a timer IG and a stopwatch IRL - the time my weapon/spell damaged were buffed on my character sheet.

Troneon

Usara wrote: »

@Troneon

Not my addon Add ons - or at least the ones I have - don't change the info on the character sheet.

Your saying your addon is telling you the potion buff is not lasting longer than 36 seconds? I am telling you it is giving you the wrong information....

The addon I use and my character sheet shows the potion buffs are fixed and lasting for the correct time of 47+ secs...

Usara

Troneon wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

@Troneon

Not my addon Add ons - or at least the ones I have - don't change the info on the character sheet.

Your saying your addon is telling you the potion buff is not lasting longer than 36 seconds? I am telling you it is giving you the wrong information....

The addon I use and my character sheet shows the potion buffs are fixed and lasting for the correct time of 47+ secs...

Yes, my ad on shows the same info than the actual buff on my character sheet - which is not modified by any add ons.

Just tested for the sake of the argument with no add ons : 36 sec of spell power buff.

UltimaJoe777

Potions in general are screwy. After all Alchemical Acceleration doesn't work at all despite the tooltip and probably isn't fixed with DB (I'll know in 48- hours).

Troneon

Usara wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

@Troneon

Not my addon Add ons - or at least the ones I have - don't change the info on the character sheet.

Your saying your addon is telling you the potion buff is not lasting longer than 36 seconds? I am telling you it is giving you the wrong information....

The addon I use and my character sheet shows the potion buffs are fixed and lasting for the correct time of 47+ secs...

Yes, my ad on shows the same info than the actual buff on my character sheet - which is not modified by any add ons.

Just tested for the sake of the argument with no add ons : 36 sec of spell power buff.

Well it is working for me...

Itoq

Y'all are arguing over this but it may be that because you are using different potions you are getting different results - as in perhaps some potions are still broken and some are not.

Troneon

Itoq wrote: »

Y'all are arguing over this but it may be that because you are using different potions you are getting different results - as in perhaps some potions are still broken and some are not.

It was never the potions that were broken, it was the passive skills of all kinds that increased duration that failed to do so.