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The Armchair Developer Comes to ESO Live

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Community Manager
Have you ever wished your favorite MMO would implement a certain feature? “Why don’t they do X, it can’t be that difficult!?” is certainly a thought that has come to a lot of minds. It’s a wish we often hear on these forums, too.

In a new segment in our biweekly Twitch show ESO Live called “The Armchair Developer,” we want to take a closer look at these feature requests, explore the pros and cons of implementing them and all the work involved – from concept and artwork, to building and balancing, all the way to the live patch.

This segment can include topics like new weapons (spear, unarmed combat), new emotes, scripted events such as weddings, housing, dying weapons or costumes, new siege weapons (remember the trailer!), new motifs, arenas, dueling, or even a new playable race. Please be aware that all topics discussed are a theoretical exercise only and no indication or guarantee that the feature will be implemented to the game.

Have you ever wondered what it takes to implement one of the above? Do you have a personal feature request? Let us know! We are looking for the first topic for this week’s show when we ask our Armchair Developer the dangerous question: “Wouldn’t it be nice to have...?"
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  • farrier_ESO
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    What a great idea! It might mean that at the very least there are better-informed suggestions posted to the forums.

    The "Auction HoRse" has been a popular one recently, and might be a nice way to start the feature :)

    But there're others that might be a better example of why stuff isn't done, like "Make a PvE version of Cyrodiil for a week to see what would happen".

    [Edited to add: No fair! Germans get all the best words! Their thread for this is titled "Der Stammtischentwickler wird Teil von ESO Live". Stammtischentwickler. That sounds awesome in my head.]
    Edited by farrier_ESO on 23 March 2015 18:57
    Yet another indie games programmer.
    Upvote the change you want to see.
  • Snit
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    That's really interesting. I will tune in for these.
    Snit AD Sorc
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  • robeauch
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    Oh, housing, definitely. And I won't bother with "how hard can it be," because it does seem like a pretty significant development effort. But I'd tune in just to hear the developers bounce it around some.

  • DDuke
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    Great idea for a show.

    I've heard a rumour that 24-man raids (full group being 24) were planned at one time. Would be nice to have these & know what it'd take to implement them.
    Edited by DDuke on 23 March 2015 23:41
  • timidobserver
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    1. Go through all that would be involved in implementing a new class.
    2. We have normal and veteran mode dungeons. What would be involved in implementing insanity mode.
    3. Trials gear is worthelss now. What would be involved in adding new gear to all of the trials in the game.
    4. Race Ultimates
    5. A token system, or something similar, that provides gear based on completing endgame content.
    6. Flying Mounts
    7. Small Scale PvP.
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  • Elsonso
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    Oh wow!

    This is a good idea!

  • Ffastyl
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    There is so much to talk about... D: But I suppose I should start with what is freshest in my mind: One-Hand weapon line.
    I posted a thread on it here. It would also be nice to get some Dev feedback on how balanced my suggestion looks.
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  • newtinmpls
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    DIsmantling classes and having all skill lines available to everyone (granted, some would logically be locked to quests/guild memberships) I could see the various magic skills accessed through the mages guide.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Helluin
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    - Small scale PvP (more battlegrounds/scenarios than arenas)
    - Collisions in PvP (with the many performance issues already in Cyrodiil, it would probably remain just a dream)
    - Double - multiple builds system
    - Hybrid builds and sets more viable
    - Really rare epic random events - quests
    - Calendar with evocations of Daedric Princes and celebration of Aedra/Divines
    - Jewelcrafting
    - Poisons added to Alchemy
    - Chance to recraft gear with a new style
    - Conversion of lesser crafting improvements into better ones (ratio 5:1 for example)
    - Craftable - consumable arrows or quiver with additional effects
    - Two hand weapons counting as 2 pieces for sets or evaluate the introduction of specific items like quivers, scabbards, etc.
    - Catch-up mechanics as already asked in this topic
    Edited by Helluin on 23 March 2015 20:40
    "... and the blue fire of Helluin flickered in the mists above the borders of the world, in that hour the Children of the Earth awoke, the Firstborn of Ilúvatar."
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    i know it might be covered in spellcrafting, but lets talk implementation of necromancy for players
  • EJRose83
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    "Wouldn't it be nice to have..."

    -Spears!! Pleeeassseeee! Two-handed and single-handed (spear and shield) would be great!

    -The ability to wield a normal sized sword with two hands, like a *** sword or a katana. Seriously, I love sword combat but why are my only options for this either sword and board or a giant claymore.... ? You could simply call this the "dueling skill line" if you wanted.
    Edited by EJRose83 on 23 March 2015 20:51
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  • Suntzu1414
    Different LEVEL Cyro Campaigns.

    Following in the steps of BWB (non-vet)

    Level VR1 - VR5 (i particularly like this one)
    Level VR6 - VR10


    So we could level, without doing all the quests again.
    Also, so we could level..the "insane" amount of AP need for AvA skills.


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    DC - NB VR 15 - Wood Elf - S+B / Resto
    DC - TP VR 15 - Brenton - Resto / Dual Wield
    DC - SC VR 12 - High Elf - Desto / Dual Wield
    EP - TP VR 5 - Nord - 2hd / 2hd
    EP - DK 20 - Imperial - S+B / Desto / Bow
  • WraithAzraiel
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    All great suggestions.

    But all I want to know more about and soon, is the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood and their respective gear types.

    When can we expect their introduction into the game?

    Will their gear be available as a motif? As rewards? As a constume? As drops?
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  • C3N50R3D
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    Suntzu1414 wrote: »
    Different LEVEL Cyro Campaigns.

    Following in the steps of BWB (non-vet)

    Level VR1 - VR5 (i particularly like this one)
    Level VR6 - VR10


    So we could level, without doing all the quests again.
    Also, so we could level..the "insane" amount of AP need for AvA skills.


    Kill Well
    ST

    I could deal with the champion grind if AvA unlock of skills like Vigor wasn't nearly impossible trying to level another class.
  • Wakkoo
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    I would like to know about

    - Smallscale PvP (Battleground, Skirmishes)
    - Better support for leveling doing PvP
    - Low level PvP (Posted feedback about it here, really hope you read it Zinemax)
    - PvP Upgrades, such as upgradable keeps for guilds, quests to make friendly guards stronger or spawn soldiers/minibosses to fight the enemy.
    - More support for the crime system. Players can attack traders or become bandits? Players can be "Crimefighters"?
    - More classes
    - Dynamic events/Public quests in the world (Think Guild Wars 2 Dynamic Events)

    What I think is a good idea, people already suggested;

    - A trade system, where you physically carry goods across Tamriel (Like a merchant caravan!) Complete with Bandits (PvE and PvP) and Heroes (PvP and PvE) Think ArchAge or Silk Road Online.


  • EJRose83
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    Hey folks, just a quick note. Some of the replies to this thread, while totally fine questions, are not the intent of this upcoming ESO Live segment. At the heart of it, we will be discussing what it takes to implement a specific type of new feature or system in a game like ESO, not answering whether or not it will ever be in ESO.

    That being the case, what would it take to implement spears into the game? Also, what about the ability to use a normal two-handed sword, such as a katana or a *** sword? I hate big swords and their animations :P

    Thanks!
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  • Ffastyl
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    An idea that I would like to see discussed about after recently perusing the forums is the Auction Horse. The thread goes into detail about how it would work from a player's standpoint, and going over it in this new segment would serve a double purpose: bringing it into more prominent attention with the Devs and showing the difficulties of implementing an Auction Horse (giving us a enough info to guesstimate an ETA (if it is pursued)).
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  • olsborg
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    Spellcrafting, this should have been in from launch, and shouldnt be too hard to implement, and you've already done some of the work. Predefined spells and abilities being the only thing available to your character, is a thing of the past. For the future of gaming, people need to create their own stuff, their own spells, their own techniques. It wont feel "real" without this.

    Its the future of games like these.
    Altmer Sorceror, magicka
    Bosmer Nightblade, stamina.
    Imperial Templar, stamina
    Redguard Warden, stamina

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  • Sacadon
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    Would like to understand what all is involved in:

    - Ensuring mounts move smoothly across terrain consistently
    - Implementing the code of popular addons such as inventory filters, guild search etc...
    Edited by Sacadon on 23 March 2015 22:57
  • Disappearingone
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    Hey folks, just a quick note. Some of the replies to this thread, while totally fine questions, are not the intent of this upcoming ESO Live segment. At the heart of it, we will be discussing what it takes to implement a specific type of new feature or system in a game like ESO, not answering whether or not it will ever be in ESO.

    So, What's the point...seems like this segment will inspire false hope and nothing more.
  • Kingdinguhling
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    I want Man-Catapult for PVP. Could u imagine lauching like 4 people over a wall simultaneously it would take 8 people and you would have to plan it out so they don't land in a fight with fall damage. XD would want ot make it incredibly expensive so it wouldn't be over used.
    Edited by Kingdinguhling on 24 March 2015 00:46
  • Kingdinguhling
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    Hand to Hand weapons and possibly a Monk class
  • AriBoh
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    Mounted combat. Either existing skill lines or what you would do to make a whole new skill bar that appears when mounted.
    khele23eb17
    Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.

    ZOS_AmeliaR admin
    Ultimately, any method of entering an enemy keep without breaking down the door is considered an exploit. Thanks for checking!

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  • Orchish
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    Thavie wrote: »
    Let's talk about CROSSBOWS! :smiley:

    This.

    Please PLEASE give my Orc a crossbow!
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