Funny thing is we’re probably getting a patch from two weeks ago and not one that actually fixes any current issues lol

Freezes and stutter and poor performance has been happening all over. I sent in a report when I noticed that ESO was using about 57% memory. That can't be right.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

Thanks for the info

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

I appreciate the fact that we as gamers don’t know all the details when it comes to the console patching certification process. It’s just frustrating to see other games on console getting rapid patches for game-breaking issues while those of us here in ESO are freezing in place every five minutes and getting booted from the server, you know?

Thanks for passing along the info, in any case. I really hope tomorrow’s patch will bring an end to the frequent freezing and crashing. I appreciate the hard work the team puts into the game. I just wish Summerset hadn’t launched with so many game-breaking issues. I also really wish we had a console PTS, so these issues could be identified and worked on sooner...

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

While I agree that companies have no obligation to share every little detail within their customers, I would be interested to know why some developers are able (willing?) to use Sony and Microsoft’s same day patch certification capabilities, while others are not. If I were a betting gal, I’d speculate that rapid patching is more expensive for developers than standard patching.

Probably is, but games have different architectures, coding, libraries, etc
Everything can be an enabler or blocker for this. Imagine a game as big as ESO, with 60 gb client side, you can wonder how is the server side... huge at least.

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

I'm not asking for every little detail. She came out and said that the tweet was lacking details, which is a deflection of responsibility and then refuses to give any more information. If you're going to deny responsibility then give evidence. If you have no evidence to provide then do not throw out the claim that it is not your fault.

And I play other games that are available on 3 platforms just like ESO is, multiple platforms which is what i meant by cross-platform, that still get patched on the same day. So why is this game different?

Because its a different game
Tera have different patches on PC and PS4, also NW. Nothing new or wrong here.

About cross-platform on video games:

"n video games, cross-platform play, or cross-play, is a term used to describe the ability of a video game with an online gaming component that allows players using different video game hardware to play with each other simultaneously. It is commonly applied to the ability for players using a game on a specific video game console to play alongside a player on a different hardware platform such as another console or a computer."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform_play

It's a common market term for years now

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

I'm not asking for every little detail. She came out and said that the tweet was lacking details, which is a deflection of responsibility and then refuses to give any more information. If you're going to deny responsibility then give evidence. If you have no evidence to provide then do not throw out the claim that it is not your fault.

And I play other games that are available on 3 platforms just like ESO is, multiple platforms which is what i meant by cross-platform, that still get patched on the same day. So why is this game different?

Because its a different game
Tera have different patches on PC and PS4, also NW. Nothing new or wrong here.

About cross-platform on video games:

"n video games, cross-platform play, or cross-play, is a term used to describe the ability of a video game with an online gaming component that allows players using different video game hardware to play with each other simultaneously. It is commonly applied to the ability for players using a game on a specific video game console to play alongside a player on a different hardware platform such as another console or a computer."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform_play

It's a common market term for years now

Lmao i used the wrong term from the gaming lexicon to describe a game on multiple platforms so other forum user responds in as condescending a matter possible. Great stuff. I bet you're popular at the office.

It's always good to make things clear, so people do not mix up things.
Also, its clear now that you finally saw your ignorance regarding gaming industry, and now attacked me just because I corrected you and your "guessing" regarding game patching, as anyone that have no clue about what is talking about does.
And coincidentally, yeah people actually like me at my office

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

I'm not asking for every little detail. She came out and said that the tweet was lacking details, which is a deflection of responsibility and then refuses to give any more information. If you're going to deny responsibility then give evidence. If you have no evidence to provide then do not throw out the claim that it is not your fault.

And I play other games that are available on 3 platforms just like ESO is, multiple platforms which is what i meant by cross-platform, that still get patched on the same day. So why is this game different?

Because its a different game
Tera have different patches on PC and PS4, also NW. Nothing new or wrong here.

About cross-platform on video games:

"n video games, cross-platform play, or cross-play, is a term used to describe the ability of a video game with an online gaming component that allows players using different video game hardware to play with each other simultaneously. It is commonly applied to the ability for players using a game on a specific video game console to play alongside a player on a different hardware platform such as another console or a computer."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform_play

It's a common market term for years now

Lmao i used the wrong term from the gaming lexicon to describe a game on multiple platforms so other forum user responds in as condescending a matter possible. Great stuff. I bet you're popular at the office.

It's always good to make things clear, so people do not mix up things.
Also, its clear now that you finally saw your ignorance regarding gaming industry, and now attacked me just because I corrected you and your "guessing" regarding game patching, as anyone that have no clue about what is talking about does.
And coincidentally, yeah people actually like me at my office

It wasn't ignorance, I merely had a term wrong. I still understand game patching completely. There are other games that get patched on PC and Xbox on the same day. The winky faces and condescending remarks was an attack on me way before my attack on you.

Lol!!! Millenium generation right?
If a wink is an attack, dude this world is lost lol
Give us the 80's and 90's back!!!!

Grunge wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Grunge wrote: »

Yep, freezes are happening. But they will figure it out

I know.

My point is that we seem to be waiting an awfully long time for our fix, while PC has been patched multiple times now.

Before anyone brings up the patch certification BS, Sony and Microsoft apparently offer same-day patch certification... https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-and-microsoft-now-offer-same-day-patch-certification-for-developers.42665/

There's a lot of details missing in that tweet. That said, console is getting a patch tomorrow with most - if not all - of the fixes PC has received, and there will be performance improvements included.

What performance improvements specifically? Will these improvements help the stuttering and the crashes to the Xbox dashboard? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: Furthermore, why do other cross-platform games I play get patched the same day on all platforms? If the tweet is missing details then fill us in. You constantly make yourselves look like the bad guys by being so vague and withholding information.

Cross-platform games share the same servers, so they are naturally patched at the same time. FF14 i.e., people on ps3, ps4 and pc play on the exactly same servers, so its natural that patchs occur at the same time (daaa).
ESO is not a cross platform game, is a game available on 3 platforms, but each one is its own environment. So, pretty normal things occur on different dates.
And my personal opinion, no company should share every little detail with their customers, its basically a recipe for failure. There are important things that should stay in-house, for the business sake and security.

While I agree that companies have no obligation to share every little detail within their customers, I would be interested to know why some developers are able (willing?) to use Sony and Microsoft’s same day patch certification capabilities, while others are not. If I were a betting gal, I’d speculate that rapid patching is more expensive for developers than standard patching.

Probably is, but games have different architectures, coding, libraries, etc
Everything can be an enabler or blocker for this. Imagine a game as big as ESO, with 60 gb client side, you can wonder how is the server side... huge at least.

What does the size of the game have to do with patches? Patches are usually fairly small relative to the overall size of the game.