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No Grim Focus Fix

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This skill is still broken. It's been broken since the 3rd (give or take) week of the PTS and now it's week two of live with no fix to it at all. This skill is a core mechanic to night blades and being able to use it reliably is extremely important to the class in PvP and PvE. Can we get a comment from Developers about this please? I'd like to buy an extra outfit slot or something nice, but until this gets fixed I'm having a hard time justifying spending more. Anyone else have anything to add? Perhaps data that would help them fix the skill?

I am grateful for fixing shade though, well done

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Wrobel
Edited by NyassaV on February 19, 2018 4:13PM
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  • firedrgn
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    Kinda sucks a whole class is dependent on one skill
  • jssriot
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    I'm using Relentless Focus morph on my stamblade and have been doing post-maintenance testing on overland mobs and my test dummy, and can't find anything wrong so far. It's proc'ing as intended , I'm getting the Berserker buff, damage dealt seems right. Is it the other morph that's not working correctly still?
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  • NyassaV
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    jssriot wrote: »
    I'm using Relentless Focus morph on my stamblade and have been doing post-maintenance testing on overland mobs and my test dummy, and can't find anything wrong so far. It's proc'ing as intended , I'm getting the Berserker buff, damage dealt seems right. Is it the other morph that's not working correctly still?

    You haven't noticed the incredible delay in when you gain your charge? I find that a little hard to believe but I guess you are in melee range
    Edited by NyassaV on February 19, 2018 4:55PM
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  • fred4
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    I think you had better describe the problem in more detail, because I tested Merciless against skeleton to see how it works now, and I have no idea what you are talking about either.
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  • NyassaV
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    fred4 wrote: »
    I think you had better describe the problem in more detail, because I tested Merciless against skeleton to see how it works now, and I have no idea what you are talking about either.

    How can you not notice the delay before you gain your charge
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  • Lynx7386
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    The delay is nearly non existent for melee or if you're close to the target. The problem is your charge is counted when the attack hits the enemy, not when you use the attack - so for staves using light or heavy attacks at long range there's a huge delay before you get your charge
    PS4 / NA
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    Hollery wrote: »
    This skill is still broken. It's been broken since the 3rd (give or take) week of the PTS and now it's week two of live with no fix to it at all. This skill is a core mechanic to night blades and being able to use it reliably is extremely important to the class in PvP and PvE. Can we get a comment from Developers about this please? I'd like to buy an extra outfit slot or something nice, but until this gets fixed I'm having a hard time justifying spending more. Anyone else have anything to add? Perhaps data that would help them fix the skill?

    I am grateful for fixing shade though, well done

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Wrobel

    What about saying what the problem is with it?
  • Datthaw
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    There is a delay but they changed it from when you cast a light attack to proc, to when the light attack hits to proc. This is why melee doesn't notice a thing but ranged magblades feel extra clunky

    It is however bugged in vma it resets between waves because you were "out of combat" for half a second. I feel like I have also experienced this in pvp when cloaking around with a stack up in around fight.
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    The real question is: Should you get a charge if your light attack gets dodged?
    Edited by Feanor on February 19, 2018 5:39PM
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
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    Feanor wrote: »
    The real question is: Should you get a charge if your light attack gets dodged?

    Yes, with things like shuffle it could take forever to proc. It’s already clunky enough as is. It’s too easy to dodge ranged attacks.
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    Datthaw answered my questions.
    Edited by fred4 on February 19, 2018 6:04PM
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  • NyassaV
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    There is a delay but they changed it from when you cast a light attack to proc, to when the light attack hits to proc. This is why melee doesn't notice a thing but ranged magblades feel extra clunky

    It is however bugged in vma it resets between waves because you were "out of combat" for half a second. I feel like I have also experienced this in pvp when cloaking around with a stack up in around fight.

    Yes, this is not intended as far as I know
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  • NyassaV
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    Gilliam was talking about it here https://youtu.be/cVXom3QXkYU
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  • Yakidafi
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    I managed to save my stack of grim focus in vma on most 'in between' fight times by casting aoe where a portal will spawn a mob. Kept me in combat bcs aoe will hit before I can hit with a direct attack.
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  • Marabornwingrion
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    I'm sure they won't fix this in one of nearest incremental patches, but in next major uptade which will come in few months...
  • LZH
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    Gina said that they were working on a fix for it during Friday's ESOlive. So maybe next week?
    Edited by LZH on February 19, 2018 9:08PM
  • NyassaV
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    I'm sure they won't fix this in one of nearest incremental patches, but in next major uptade which will come in few months...

    I feel like you are right but i really don't want to believe it
    Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand Overlord
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.
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  • altemriel
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    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    very nice! thank you!!


    could you pls also comment if the change to grim focus stack counting (that it counts to the stack AFTER the ranged attack hits the enemy, NOT ANYMORE right when the shot gets fired from the staff) is intentional, or also bugged?
  • ajcorbell
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    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.
    Gina Bruno
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  • PlagueSD
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Gilliam was talking about it here

    A timestamp would be nice. I'm not watching a 4hr video for something he may have talked about for a few seconds...
  • PlagueSD
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    In before the "preload" grim focus with 5 light attacks before entering combat bug appears.. :)
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    Yay !
  • NyassaV
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    Thank you very much for the information!
    Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand Overlord
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    They fixed shade?
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  • ak_pvp
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    Does incremental patch mean monday or update 18?
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    Um I have already made a post about it (Dungeons, Trials and Arenas), but I will mention it here as well. In Maelstrom Arena, every time white portals spawn, you are technically exiting combat, and since you now lose your stacks when exiting combat, you will thus lose all your stacks and your bow proc if you have that ready. This is happening with both morphs of grim focus. Will that be addresed in the next incremental? Thanks.
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    Does incremental patch mean monday or update 18?

    Incremental means Monday (or maybe any random patch day Monday). Major update would be update 18.
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  • Feanor
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    ajcorbell wrote: »
    We're currently testing a fix for Grim Focus, and if it passes QA, we'll include in the next incremental patch.

    Can you confirm which issue with Grim Focus this will be addressing?

    Of course. This fix makes it so you get the stacks from the ability as soon as you light attack, instead of after the light attack deals damage.

    In before the "preload" grim focus with 5 light attacks before entering combat bug appears.. :)

    I really do hope building the stack requires a valid target. The combat status in Cyrodiil is quite unreliable.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
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