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Bolstering Darkness needs rework due to Major protection change
Lab3360
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Bolster Darkness cost 200 ultimate for a whopping 10% damage reduction.
Block cost less and mitigates more damage this, a major buff.
By decreasing certain buffs and debuffs, certain skills and ultimate will be rendered usless.
No one is going to spend 200 ultimate for 10 damage reduction.
Bolstering Darkness needs a rework as well as the other ultis whose buffs and debuffs were severely decreased.
Nightblade now has no significant ulti for tank role, nor does Warden, nor Templar
Edited by Lab3360 on 9 October 2020 06:01 Block cost less and mitigates more damage this, a major buff.
By decreasing certain buffs and debuffs, certain skills and ultimate will be rendered usless.
No one is going to spend 200 ultimate for 10 damage reduction.
Bolstering Darkness needs a rework as well as the other ultis whose buffs and debuffs were severely decreased.
Nightblade now has no significant ulti for tank role, nor does Warden, nor Templar
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Vayln_Ninetails✭✭✭✭✭Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.2 -
BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭A good chance the ability got overlooked because it’s not heavily used or talked about.Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.3 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
That ulti is Rip too. It will not make in onto bar any longer.0 -
Vayln_Ninetails✭✭✭✭✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
That ulti is Rip too. It will not make in onto bar any longer.
Exactly. It needs a secondary effect like the one I mentioned. Being able to raise dead from it's cast as well would really flesh out what necromancer is missing.0 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I thought they had some holy "spreadsheet" that would handle all these situations. Can't they just plug these abilities into the "spreadsheet" to fix the cost on them? I've seen loads of abilities nerfed in the past with the explanation that they needed to be brought in line with the "spreadsheet". Does this not work for buffing as well?Edited by redspecter23 on 8 October 2020 22:133 -
esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
If this was a PVE only game that would be great, but this is never going to happen due to PVP. Group of 24 players, with say 4 necros in there and suddenly that group of 24 has 20 skeletons running along side it for 10 minutes. If you think the servers are bad now.
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UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
That ulti is Rip too. It will not make in onto bar any longer.
It'll still be used in endgame, since it's literally the only way to get that unique debuff, for the time being.0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭UntilValhalla13 wrote: »Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
That ulti is Rip too. It will not make in onto bar any longer.
It'll still be used in endgame, since it's literally the only way to get that unique debuff, for the time being.
I dont thnk it will be worth the cost0 -
Vayln_Ninetails✭✭✭✭✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
If this was a PVE only game that would be great, but this is never going to happen due to PVP. Group of 24 players, with say 4 necros in there and suddenly that group of 24 has 20 skeletons running along side it for 10 minutes. If you think the servers are bad now.
Could easily make it have a limit in PvP!
Like, only up to 3 skellies or something.0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Vayln_Ninetails wrote: »Throw necro's colossus ult in here too.
It should get a morph that summons anything that dies while under its cast as skeletons/zombies that follow the necromancer for a temporary amount of time (say, like, 10 minutes) to a cap of 5 or 10. This can be used in dungeons to get a small squad of undead to fight the boss.
If this was a PVE only game that would be great, but this is never going to happen due to PVP. Group of 24 players, with say 4 necros in there and suddenly that group of 24 has 20 skeletons running along side it for 10 minutes. If you think the servers are bad now.
Could easily make it have a limit in PvP!
Like, only up to 3 skellies or something.
I dont undestand why zos simply aont change the behavior of skills in ovp and leave pve alone.0 -
esotoon✭✭✭✭✭
✭I dont undestand why zos simply aont change the behavior of skills in ovp and leave pve alone.
They could, but they choose not to. It would make balancing the game far easier, and it would stop all the infighting between the PVE and PVP players whenever any skill is nerfed/balanced/requested.0 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The colossus could summon blastbone up to 3 per cast for each kill while under the major debuff effect
Kind of like the resurection ultimate morph0 -
OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭There were some skills that worked differently in PvP and pve for example ambush was a snare in pvp and a stun in PvP. There are also some sets that only work in PvP/pve.
I wouldn't mind making 2 set and skillpools for pvp and pve. This would help performance in PvP alotclass representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling0 -
Vayln_Ninetails✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »The colossus could summon blastbone up to 3 per cast for each kill while under the major debuff effect
Kind of like the resurection ultimate morph
I'd like something other than Blastbones though. What if it summoned up to 3 warrior skeletons that last as long as skeletal mage?
I think that'd be cool.1 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Both ults do need a buff or change, and a necromancer actually raising the dead? Sign me up.
Raised enemies should keep their class and abilities though instead of being generic skeletons like everything else.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Both ults do need a buff or change, and a necromancer actually raising the dead? Sign me up.
Raised enemies should keep their class and abilities though instead of being generic skeletons like everything else.
I think its a slippery slop when class abilities are altered like this.
They stated last yesr they were dne with class balance. Yet every patch after and here we are again1 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Both ults do need a buff or change, and a necromancer actually raising the dead? Sign me up.
Raised enemies should keep their class and abilities though instead of being generic skeletons like everything else.
I think its a slippery slop when class abilities are altered like this.
They stated last yesr they were dne with class balance. Yet every patch after and here we are again
Never altering class balance again would be insane. It's an ongoing thing that should be tweaked every patch imo. No reason to leave class x broken for a year before another pass.
Also Necro still can't use combat summons (not pets). The untargetable thing just makes them an animated aoe/dot.Edited by Ryuvain on 9 October 2020 05:41That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »I thought they had some holy "spreadsheet" that would handle all these situations. Can't they just plug these abilities into the "spreadsheet" to fix the cost on them? I've seen loads of abilities nerfed in the past with the explanation that they needed to be brought in line with the "spreadsheet". Does this not work for buffing as well?
I certainty thought they would have some type oversight to check balancing when making changesEdited by Lab3360 on 9 October 2020 05:420 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Both ults do need a buff or change, and a necromancer actually raising the dead? Sign me up.
Raised enemies should keep their class and abilities though instead of being generic skeletons like everything else.
I think its a slippery slop when class abilities are altered like this.
They stated last yesr they were dne with class balance. Yet every patch after and here we are again
Never altering class balance again would be insane. It's an ongoing thing that should be tweaked every patch imo. No reason to leave class x broken for a year before another pass.
Also Necro still can't use combat summons (not pets). The untargetable thing just makes them an animated aoe/dot.
Things that are not broken dont need fixing.
Bolstering Darkness wasnt broken.
It didnt need tweeking or fixing
The class now has no significant ultimate for tank role.Edited by Lab3360 on 9 October 2020 05:590 -
Ryuvain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Both ults do need a buff or change, and a necromancer actually raising the dead? Sign me up.
Raised enemies should keep their class and abilities though instead of being generic skeletons like everything else.
I think its a slippery slop when class abilities are altered like this.
They stated last yesr they were dne with class balance. Yet every patch after and here we are again
Never altering class balance again would be insane. It's an ongoing thing that should be tweaked every patch imo. No reason to leave class x broken for a year before another pass.
Also Necro still can't use combat summons (not pets). The untargetable thing just makes them an animated aoe/dot.
Things that are not broken dont need fixing.
Bolstering Darkness wasnt broken.
It didnt need tweeking or fixing
The class now has no significant ultimate for tank role.
Never said they did.
I would only really use it at 30%. Less means I would just use something else. A tweak isn't a huge change.
Seems so, but I don't tankblade.That one khajiit obsessed with werewolf behemoth and vampire lord. Lady Thorn is bae, dont @ me.
Werewolf behemoth=vampire lord>blood scion>werewolf>vampire.0