Can't make a good omelet without eggs to scramble.Grianasteri schrieb: »Grianasteri schrieb: »I am fairly sure that one of the main solutions that could improve laag and performance, would be investment in server space.
There I said it.
If too many complex calculations are causing issues... get more processing power...
Required processing power does not necessarily scale linearly. If calculations are proportional to square of number of players playing, doubling number of players would need quadrupling server power.
So quadruple the power. My point remains the same. Its great that work is being done to mitigate laag/performance pinch points... but ultimately a big investment in server power would surely mitigate similar or my suspicion is, a LOT more laag/performance issues.
ESO_Nightingale schrieb: »ESO_Nightingale schrieb: »This entire thread seems to just be saying "nerf warden and necro". While I understand that templar has some critical problems, so do other classes including both warden and necromancer and it feels like you all are just saying that they have everything when they absolutely do not, for example, the common argument said about warden is "they have every buff", well, while we have a significant amount of named buffs and definitely more than I would personally think is reasonable, we legitimately need those to be viable because warden has a lack of quantity and quality class damage skills that don't have much synergy with eachother. Magicka Warden was for the longest time the worst dps before it got more raw damage buffs, meanwhile Stamina Warden as of Stonethorn is still one of the worst dps classes in pve, Warden DPS just generally cannot access it's class specific utility in pve because it's so ingrained to be used by tanks and healers, while additionally our green balance skills aren't used as much by dps in PvP because they underperform a noticeable amount compared to other healing skills and chiefly because of arctic blast's health scaling healing, natures embrace still has rubber band issues that are partly due to how slow the projectile moves.
I can't speak as much for necromancer but it has issues with several bugs and ai issues with it's pets which make it restricted and clunky, and the tethers are still extremely wonky to use, magicka necromancer is still quite bad in pvp.
Yes, stamina warden and necromancer are top tier in pvp, and necromancer has been an issue in pve. and they need to be toned down, but just know that these classes aren't without their issues either. all classes deserve tuning and treatment.
All classes do deserve treatment, and this is a post about templars.
You know when ppl create these kinds of posts they don't automatically infer that the only class that needs help is theirs.
And yet tons of ppl like you pop in to say: My class too! Completely missing the point of the thread.
If you argued that templars weren't as bad or even godlike or whatever your post would actually be more relevant to the thread than it is now.
You actually miss my point, my comment is in response to people who either say or imply that the blame is on the "pay to win" classes for why their class is doing badly. What I'm trying to say is that these people aren't thinking about the people who actually play these classes that are "pay to win" and thus either ignore or don't know about the issues these classes have. Just suggesting that they need to be nerfed in a thread about, as you said, templars, isn't the place to discuss that. But it's also just inconsiderate.
I mean, you look at some of the tools of those classes and it looks like like Zos was trying give them tools that templars had access to, only better.
Warden in particular, has a better version of nova, has major mending(which was taken away from Templar not long before warden got released), a better healing skill line that actually benefits both mag and stam.
Necro has a better self purge, stronger burst, better passives(by far).
Anyway warden needs nerfs in pvp period, regardless of what templars have, but I agree that they also need some love in other areas like their spammable improved and better cc options.
ESO_Nightingale schrieb: »This entire thread seems to just be saying "nerf warden and necro". While I understand that templar has some critical problems, so do other classes including both warden and necromancer and it feels like you all are just saying that they have everything when they absolutely do not, for example, the common argument said about warden is "they have every buff", well, while we have a significant amount of named buffs and definitely more than I would personally think is reasonable, we legitimately need those to be viable because warden has a lack of quantity and quality class damage skills that don't have much synergy with eachother. Magicka Warden was for the longest time the worst dps before it got more raw damage buffs, meanwhile Stamina Warden as of Stonethorn is still one of the worst dps classes in pve, Warden DPS just generally cannot access it's class specific utility in pve because it's so ingrained to be used by tanks and healers, while additionally our green balance skills aren't used as much by dps in PvP because they underperform a noticeable amount compared to other healing skills and chiefly because of arctic blast's health scaling healing, natures embrace still has rubber band issues that are partly due to how slow the projectile moves.
I can't speak as much for necromancer but it has issues with several bugs and ai issues with it's pets which make it restricted and clunky, and the tethers are still extremely wonky to use, magicka necromancer is still quite bad in pvp.
Yes, stamina warden and necromancer are top tier in pvp, and necromancer has been an issue in pve. and they need to be toned down, but just know that these classes aren't without their issues either. all classes deserve tuning and treatment.
All classes do deserve treatment, and this is a post about templars.
You know when ppl create these kinds of posts they don't automatically infer that the only class that needs help is theirs.
And yet tons of ppl like you pop in to say: My class too! Completely missing the point of the thread.
If you argued that templars weren't as bad or even godlike or whatever your post would actually be more relevant to the thread than it is now.