Consistency of Moderation

omfgitsbatman

This thread is simply a plea for consistency moderation of forums. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT GROUPDAMAGE SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE GAME.

Recently, there was a post in the Add-ons category of the forums: here
This post led to an Addon effectively being removed from the game. This post is filled with name calling, inflammatory, unconstructive hate. They snipped some of the comments, but there are still quite a few remaining that are quite inflammatory. This post reached 25 pages of hate so far and is not closed yet.

This thread however: here
got closed after just 1 page with one or 2 comments that are against forum rules. None of the comments by the OP use any foul language, or anything inflammatory. There is a constructive argument going on for the most part, but there are those few that post hate. The usual method for moderation in this has been to Snip the thread of the malicious content, not to close the thread completely.

I do believe that this Is a glaring gap in consistency of moderation of the forums. This is very worrying.

Jahoel

I believe this is a legitimate concern.

The thread that was closed proposed a reasonable question. Master Merchant conveniently displays information that is available in the game, making it easier (MUCH easier) for guilds to discriminate against players based on sales performance. @omfgitsbatman is simply asking for MM to receive the same treatment as an add-on (Group Damage) that did the exact same thing, but in a different environment (groups), and with different data (damage/healing).

He seems to believe that such easy access to sales information (which is quite tedious, in many cases even unrealistic to gather without the add-on, much like group DPS) turns trade guilds into elitist jerks, and has appropriately voiced his concern here on the forums, as he has seen that tactic used to success in a previous thread. So why was his closed, and not the other?

Consistency is important, in my opinion. So what gives?

UrQuan

I'd say the consistency of moderation is like a slightly grainy custard. Thick and goopy so that it flows slowly, but with a little bit of grit to it, and it solidifies as time goes on.

Wait, that's not what you meant is it?

Paulington

Jahoel wrote: »

I believe this is a legitimate concern.

The thread that was closed proposed a reasonable question. Master Merchant conveniently displays information that is available in the game, making it easier (MUCH easier) for guilds to discriminate against players based on sales performance. @omfgitsbatman is simply asking for MM to receive the same treatment as an add-on (Group Damage) that did the exact same thing, but in a different environment (groups), and with different data (damage/healing).

He seems to believe that such easy access to sales information (which is quite tedious, in many cases even unrealistic to gather without the add-on, much like group DPS) turns trade guilds into elitist jerks, and has appropriately voiced his concern here on the forums, as he has seen that tactic used to success in a previous thread. So why was his closed, and not the other?

Consistency is important, in my opinion. So what gives?

What also struck me was the reasoning of "Allows people to spy on others without their permission" but as you said this applies to many addons, Master Merchant being one and LootDrop being another as it shows what other people loot, how is that not "spying"?

It's a glaring inconsistency I'd like to see addressed.

omfgitsbatman

Paulington wrote: »

Jahoel wrote: »

I believe this is a legitimate concern.

The thread that was closed proposed a reasonable question. Master Merchant conveniently displays information that is available in the game, making it easier (MUCH easier) for guilds to discriminate against players based on sales performance. @omfgitsbatman is simply asking for MM to receive the same treatment as an add-on (Group Damage) that did the exact same thing, but in a different environment (groups), and with different data (damage/healing).

He seems to believe that such easy access to sales information (which is quite tedious, in many cases even unrealistic to gather without the add-on, much like group DPS) turns trade guilds into elitist jerks, and has appropriately voiced his concern here on the forums, as he has seen that tactic used to success in a previous thread. So why was his closed, and not the other?

Consistency is important, in my opinion. So what gives?

What also struck me was the reasoning of "Allows people to spy on others without their permission" but as you said this applies to many addons, Master Merchant being one and LootDrop being another as it shows what other people loot, how is that not "spying"?

It's a glaring inconsistency I'd like to see addressed.

That is another inconsistency that seems worrying. That is a very Constructive, noninflammatory, non disruptive comment.

Volkodav

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

This thread is simply a plea for consistency moderation of forums. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT GROUPDAMAGE SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE GAME.

Recently, there was a post in the Add-ons category of the forums: here
This post led to an Addon effectively being removed from the game. This post is filled with name calling, inflammatory, unconstructive hate. They snipped some of the comments, but there are still quite a few remaining that are quite inflammatory. This post reached 25 pages of hate so far and is not closed yet.

This thread however: here
got closed after just 1 page with one or 2 comments that are against forum rules. None of the comments by the OP use any foul language, or anything inflammatory. There is a constructive argument going on for the most part, but there are those few that post hate. The usual method for moderation in this has been to Snip the thread of the malicious content, not to close the thread completely.

edited out cos I dont wanna get banned.

omfgitsbatman

Let's keep this thread constructive, and anti-inflammatory.

ZOS_Tarina

Hello, everyone.
This thread has been closed, and we wanted to explain why. We do understand that players will sometimes disagree with an action taken by our moderation team, whether it is a closed thread or a deleted post. That said, we do ask that any concerns are brought up with us directly. If you ever have questions or concerns about a disciplinary action or decision we have made on the ESOTU forums, we ask that you please contact http://help.elderscrollsonline.com/ to do so (please specify that you are contacting about a forum-related inquiry or appeal). We are happy to discuss and review specific moderation-related actions with you.
Thank you for your understanding.