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Caught stealing while hidden bug

Soleya
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I didn't know which forum was best to post bug reports in.

Earlier today while stealing I got caught, even though it said I was hidden the entire time.

Here is a youtube video of the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAoU-B4m28&feature=youtu.be
  • ZOS_RyanRuzich
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    This is a bug and we're working on a fix. :smile:

    Great video for the bug report by the way, they help quite often.
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  • Deome
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    You might've been witnessed by the chicken. That's why there's an achievement for killing livestock :D
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    I am beginning to think there is a insect conspiracy against me sometimes while on some thieving ops, been a number of times where the perfect crime is being done and somehow I get a bounty.

    Does a fly report me or something? ESO equivalent of Chaos Theory, fly flaps its wings, I get bounty for no apparent reason:P

    :smiley:
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  • Fetaro
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    This is a bug and we're working on a fix. :smile:

    Glad to read that. I haven't played the game for a month because of this bug, kinda fun-breaking. I got caught something like 10 times in a row while I was hidden , I ended up ragequiting.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Fetaro wrote: »
    This is a bug and we're working on a fix. :smile:

    Glad to read that. I haven't played the game for a month because of this bug, kinda fun-breaking. I got caught something like 10 times in a row while I was hidden , I ended up ragequiting.

    Hehe cannot blame ya, I would rage at that too, it will be fixed hopefully soon:}
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

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    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
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  • Deome
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    I am beginning to think there is a insect conspiracy against me sometimes while on some thieving ops, been a number of times where the perfect crime is being done and somehow I get a bounty.

    The Chicken sees all.
    Deome
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  • LaughingJack
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    this is from my POV:
    looks to me like you were "Hiding" and not actually "Hidden", as the "Eye" never closed fully. when the Eye Closes completely you are only then fully hidden and shadowed to show you are. if the Eye is not fully closed you are only hiding/partly hidden and can be seen/detected from relatively close range by anybody - exactly how it works with 'enemies' - exactly what happened in your video.

    @zos. can we have some clarification about how "hiding" works?

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  • Fetaro
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    looks to me like you were "Hiding" and not actually "Hidden", as the "Eye" never closed fully.
    I always wait the eye to be completely closed before stealing.
    And I always look around me before stealing.
    I'm a careful thief, and put all the chances on my side before committing crimes.
    And I got caught 10 times in a row.
  • Soleya
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    I've also had they eye close when out of sight, and then reopen then close again and reopen without me moving. I'll see if I can post a video of that as well.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Deome wrote: »
    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    I am beginning to think there is a insect conspiracy against me sometimes while on some thieving ops, been a number of times where the perfect crime is being done and somehow I get a bounty.

    The Chicken sees all.

    Haha aye, seems like that, even when dead they somehow or other things, manage to report you...
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

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  • Aerius_Sygale
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    I've also had they eye close when out of sight, and then reopen then close again and reopen without me moving. I'll see if I can post a video of that as well.

    Ugh, yeah. That happens to me all. The friggin'. Time. Whether moving or not, eye closing then instantly breaking wide open, the process repeating itself as much as some half a dozen times, it is agonizing even for trying to sneak up on enemies to get quick, easy, stealthy kills... ._.

    And this is at times when no NPC could possibly see me, either too far away, and/or back(s) facing me...
    Edited by Aerius_Sygale on May 27, 2015 8:04AM
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    I have had this so many times, first I thought I completely missed the eye opening but Im glad its just a bug and that its getting fixed.
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  • Aerius_Sygale
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    I have had this so many times, first I thought I completely missed the eye opening but Im glad its just a bug and that its getting fixed.

    It is just a bug...that still hasn't been fixed, and console launch is right around the corner. It is disturbing.

    ZoS must comprehend how painfully loud console gamers will cry out if this still exists when the time comes, as it -greatly- hurts two aspects of the game; stealing and sneaking up on enemies, or even from range, so long as that eye inexplicably keeps bursting open until the cows come home. >.>'
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  • Sacadon
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    The topic of stealth, the various differences in the mechanics of it and in relation to the state of the eye has been in and out of clarity since day one (including long lists of bugs). @ZOS_GinaBruno posted an explanation of the various states based on the eye a while back, but I think this was pre-1.6. If post 1.6, I'll link in here as it was very informative.
  • Ageless
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    Just happened to me, I was hidden and I had taken a 16.3 second invisibility potion prior to trying to open a chest. All enemies from yards around saw me and attacked me. Then I really wonder what the use is of invisibility and being hidden. Why not put a brightly light pointing arrow over my head at all times?
    Edited by Ageless on May 28, 2015 8:51PM
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  • Moonshadow66
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    Ageless wrote: »
    Just happened to me, I was hidden and I had taken a 16.3 second invisibility potion prior to trying to open a chest. All enemies from yards around saw me and attacked me. Then I really wonder what the use is of invisibility and being hidden. Why not put a brightly light pointing arrow over my head at all times?

    Yeah, the invisibility potions are a gamble.. like Cloak. Happens to me every now and then that I consume one of these potions and everyone keeps seeing me. I actually assume (and posted it in another thread just recently) that invisibility in general is broken, not just Cloak.


    What I also get extremely often that it alternates between "hidden" and "detected" ALL THE FREAKING TIME, even when there's no one around and not even close to be considered being "around".
    My main has maxed this skill line already, so with the rest of my characters I don't care that much anymore (there's no achievement or even a dye anyways), with these bugs it's not really fun anymore.
    Edited by Moonshadow66 on May 29, 2015 3:11PM
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  • Blade_07
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    Yeah, I think that the small worthless mobs can see you or something cuz I will be in sneak mode and there is nothing around but I get the detected open eye.
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