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Newly returned, a few questions

Inordinate
Hi guys,

I played this game back in July, but it was so bug-ridden that I didn't finish my free month. Now, everyone says that things are better, so I'm giving it another try, but I'm still having problems:

1. Character delete limit; why? I'm sure this doesn't bother everyone, but for us "character builders," this is a game breaker. I have all 8 slots filled up, and all 3 deletes used, and I still don't have a character that I actually want to play. How do you get more deletes?

2. Lag; is this even being addressed? I'm getting killed in level 3 quests because I start a fight, everyone freezes for a minute, then it fast forwards and I'm dead. I don't see enemies sometimes until I am on top of them. I can't imagine that it gets any easier as you level up, and it is effectively unplayable as it stands. I asked about this in game, and was told to go play something else.

3. Skill lines; I don't understand this at all. I would expect you to increase skill lines as you use skills, but that doesn't seem to have any bearing on it at all. My Imperial DK, for example, I want to be a heavy armor archer, so I wear heavy armor and carry a bow, yet my skill lines in 2-handed and light armor keep going up, even though I'm not using either one! Is there some way to tell the game which skills I want to increase?

4. Classes; this was a major turn-off for me from the beginning, in that there was a class system at all. That being said, even the classes we have are limited and boring. Will we be getting more classes in the future?

I'm sure I will have more questions when I actually get into playing the game, but I'm not getting very far in the current environment ;(
  • Daenerys
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    1. I believe the delete limit was done to stop the gold exploit many moons ago. you'll get more deletes soon (think it is a day or two)

    2. what are you specs? you might want to contact CS about that. that shouldn't be happening

    3. this doesn't make sense. you put skills on your bar you want to increase. you wear armor that you want to increase in skill. if you want to be a heavy armor user, but are wearing light, that would be why it is going up - or if you have harness magic on your bar, or reading skill books. best way to increase certain skills is to equip the skills you want to increase right before you turn in a quest

    4. as an avid TES fan, I feel your pain, but we have to compromise w/this whole MMO thing. you might wanna read up on passives and see what would work best with your interesting build.

    welcome back, hope that helped a wee bit :)
  • Voodoo
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    have you updated your grx card? I have had almost no problems with pve lag since day one.

    also this addon will end any doubt about what experience your skills are getting.. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info338-HarvensExperienceNotify.html
  • Inordinate
    Daenerys wrote: »
    1. I believe the delete limit was done to stop the gold exploit many moons ago. you'll get more deletes soon (think it is a day or two)


    That's literally game-breaking; is there really no way to get more deletes other than waiting? Whose bone-headed idea was that?

    As for fixing an exploit, they couldn't have actually fixed the exploit instead of fixing the mechanism that happened to be involved? That does not instill confidence in the abilities of the developers.
    Daenerys wrote: »
    2. what are you specs? you might want to contact CS about that. that shouldn't be happening

    It's not on my end; the game doesn't freeze, the enemies do, then teleport on top of me and I die. I have a modern system pushing a consistent 70 FPS on high settings, and I can still move/look around while it lags.

    Daenerys wrote: »
    5. this doesn't make sense. you put skills on your bar you want to increase. you wear armor that you want to increase in skill. if you want to be a heavy armor user, but are wearing light, that would be why it is going up - or if you have harness magic on your bar, or reading skill books. best way to increase certain skills is to equip the skills you want to increase right before you turn in a quest

    No, I took off all the starter rags, equipped nothing but heavy armor, but I get messages that light armor is increasing, and I'm not getting points in heavy. Same with bow vs 2-handed, and draconic vs ardent flame; it doesn't seem to matter which I have equipped/on the bar, it just increases something else.

    Daenerys wrote: »
    4. as an avid TES fan, I feel your pain, but we have to compromise w/this whole MMO thing. you might wanna read up on passives and see what would work best with your interesting build.

    Yea, I've read through those, but my attempts at things that looked like they should have worked well (dark elf DK for fire synergy, for example) don't seem to work out, at all. I went ahead and bought imperial when I resubbed, and made a sword and board templar and an archer DK, but they both suck pretty hard.

    Mostly, though, the classes are just boring; other than the healing abilities in templar, they all seem weak and uninteresting.

    Daenerys wrote: »
    welcome back, hope that helped a wee bit :)

    Well, I appreciate it, anyway; I'm going to be sticking around if I can't reroll my characters at will, though.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Inordinate wrote: »
    That's literally game-breaking; is there really no way to get more deletes other than waiting? Whose bone-headed idea was that?

    As for fixing an exploit, they couldn't have actually fixed the exploit instead of fixing the mechanism that happened to be involved? That does not instill confidence in the abilities of the developers.

    No, the exploit was people were creating new characters then farming the intro, then deleting them, it was a fairly big amount for a small amount of time (no effort they were using bots.

    The only way to stop this was either to limit how many characters you can create in one day, or how many characters you could delete. They went for the delete limit.

    And you get one new delete every 24 hours, to a maximum of three.
    No, I took off all the starter rags, equipped nothing but heavy armor, but I get messages that light armor is increasing, and I'm not getting points in heavy. Same with bow vs 2-handed, and draconic vs ardent flame; it doesn't seem to matter which I have equipped/on the bar, it just increases something else.

    Well something's wrong, if you are wearing only heavy armour, then you should only be getting increases in heavy armour. You might want to submit a ticket in game.
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  • Inordinate
    Inordinate wrote: »
    That's literally game-breaking; is there really no way to get more deletes other than waiting? Whose bone-headed idea was that?

    As for fixing an exploit, they couldn't have actually fixed the exploit instead of fixing the mechanism that happened to be involved? That does not instill confidence in the abilities of the developers.

    No, the exploit was people were creating new characters then farming the intro, then deleting them, it was a fairly big amount for a small amount of time (no effort they were using bots.

    The only way to stop this was either to limit how many characters you can create in one day, or how many characters you could delete. They went for the delete limit.

    I'm sorry, I don't buy that at all; I've seen that issue in a dozen other MMOs, and none of them had to implement some kind of limit on character creation/deletion. Off the top of my head, they could have lowered the end reward from the intro quest to make it not worthwhile to farm; set up a script to monitor accounts that funnel money from low level alts to a single character and ban them; link gold and items to the character that first picked them up for 24 hours, and delete them if the character is deleted...

    Give me an hour, and I'll come up with another dozen solutions that would not have impacted normal players' experience at all.

    And you get one new delete every 24 hours, to a maximum of three.


    Um, no I don't; I resubbed yesterday morning and immediately deleted a character to start a new one. 36 hours later, I have no available deletions.


    Well something's wrong, if you are wearing only heavy armour, then you should only be getting increases in heavy armour. You might want to submit a ticket in game.


    If I can ever create a new character and recreate the issue, I will do so.
    Edited by Inordinate on November 2, 2014 9:29PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Inordinate wrote: »
    No, the exploit was people were creating new characters then farming the intro, then deleting them, it was a fairly big amount for a small amount of time (no effort they were using bots.

    The only way to stop this was either to limit how many characters you can create in one day, or how many characters you could delete. They went for the delete limit.

    I'm sorry, I don't buy that at all; I've seen that issue in a dozen other MMOs, and none of them had to implement some kind of limit on character creation/deletion. Off the top of my head, they could have lowered the end reward from the intro quest to make it not worthwhile to farm; set up a script to monitor accounts that funnel money from low level alts to a single character and ban them; link gold and items to the character that first picked them up for 24 hours, and delete them if the character is deleted...

    Give me an hour, and I'll come up with another dozen solutions that would not have impacted normal players' experience at all.

    Maybe, oh I agree there are all sorts of ways to get around this problem, but this was the easiest, and if you remember the launch you'll also expect them to use the easiest fix.
    And you get one new delete every 24 hours, to a maximum of three.


    Um, no I don't; I resubbed yesterday morning and immediately deleted a character to start a new one. 36 hours later, I have no available deletions.

    Um, tricky one that, I have only deleted a few characters, the delete limit went back up to three after 24 hours (I only delete one at a time). Sounds like a bug of some sort.
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  • Aett_Thorn
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    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    The Devs had nerfed the rewards of several missions first, but the bots would just find another high-reward, no-effort mission to turn in and get the gold. So instead of nerfing every mission's rewards to nothing and impacting everyone, they created the delete limit which impacts only the bots and a small percentage of other players.

    You get three deletes, and once you use one, they recharge 1 per 24 hours. That is how it works, and so either you're the unluckiest player I've ever seen, or you haven't waited a full 24 hours.
  • Inordinate
    Maybe, oh I agree there are all sorts of ways to get around this problem, but this was the easiest, and if you remember the launch you'll also expect them to use the easiest fix.


    And if it was a temporary fix while they go and correct the problem, I would understand. Tell me that it will be fixed, and I'll shut up and wait.
    Um, tricky one that, I have only deleted a few characters, the delete limit went back up to three after 24 hours (I only delete one at a time). Sounds like a bug of some sort.

    Well, it is kind of preventing me from playing the game, at this point; oh, I've got my old level 31 Templar, but I don't remember how to play her at all, and with the current lag issues, my attempts have all ended in disaster.

    Although, to be fair, one of the reasons I quit back in July was that I kept hitting walls with my characters, where I simply could not progress any further, which is what happened with my Templar, and hence my need to reroll characters to find something that works.
    Edited by Inordinate on November 2, 2014 9:42PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Yeah I remember that, mind you I also remember a few false starts with getting rid of them, where they would be gone for a day but back the next. It took me three whole days before I could actually believe they were gone for good.
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    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Inordinate
    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Yeah I remember that, mind you I also remember a few false starts with getting rid of them, where they would be gone for a day but back the next. It took me three whole days before I could actually believe they were gone for good.


    Well, am I the only one who thinks that bots are a small price to pay for being able to actually play the game? It just seems like an odd set of priorities...
  • Inordinate
    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Great: No bots. Not great: No game!

    What kind of sense does that make? Why not just unplug the servers entirely, then they can be sure that the bots are gone!

    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The Devs had nerfed the rewards of several missions first, but the bots would just find another high-reward, no-effort mission to turn in and get the gold.

    And so they kept fixing the symptom instead of the disease.

    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    So instead of nerfing every mission's rewards to nothing and impacting everyone, they created the delete limit which impacts only the bots and a small percentage of other players.

    How do you know how many players it has affected? Most people just stop playing without ever telling anyone why.

    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    You get three deletes, and once you use one, they recharge 1 per 24 hours. That is how it works, and so either you're the unluckiest player I've ever seen, or you haven't waited a full 24 hours.

    It's been almost 36 hours, now.
  • Aett_Thorn
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    Inordinate wrote: »
    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Yeah I remember that, mind you I also remember a few false starts with getting rid of them, where they would be gone for a day but back the next. It took me three whole days before I could actually believe they were gone for good.


    Well, am I the only one who thinks that bots are a small price to pay for being able to actually play the game? It just seems like an odd set of priorities...

    It wasn't a small amount of bots. Many of the starting areas you couldn't find any crafting resources because there were bot trains clearing out the areas.

    I can deal with a few bots, but when I can't find any resource nodes at all it makes my game unplayable. Trust me when I say that the delete limit is the small price to pay for how bad the bot problem was.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Inordinate wrote: »
    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Yeah I remember that, mind you I also remember a few false starts with getting rid of them, where they would be gone for a day but back the next. It took me three whole days before I could actually believe they were gone for good.


    Well, am I the only one who thinks that bots are a small price to pay for being able to actually play the game? It just seems like an odd set of priorities...

    You are definately among the minority, but there are a few others who agree with you, the rest of us find the delete limit a minor annoyance to get rid of gold sellers.

    The posts in general chat by them were extremely irritating, 90% of the posts were gold sellers, and our ignore lists were constantly be filled. The bots were also a major annoyance, interferring with quests, and stopping people getting to the bosses.

    People can sympathise with your viewpoint, but the delete limit is the lesser of the evils.
    Edited by AlexDougherty on November 2, 2014 9:50PM
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Averya_Teira
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    Inordinate wrote: »

    It's not on my end; the game doesn't freeze, the enemies do, then teleport on top of me and I die. I have a modern system pushing a consistent 70 FPS on high settings, and I can still move/look around while it lags.

    That sounds like it IS on your end. Are you using a router ? Do you have high speed internet ? Are you twelve people using bandwidth at the same time in your house ?
    Edited by Averya_Teira on November 2, 2014 9:50PM
  • Inordinate
    Inordinate wrote: »
    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    The delete limit was an amazing introduction to this game, which was swarming with bots one day, and then almost completely devoid of them the next.

    Yeah I remember that, mind you I also remember a few false starts with getting rid of them, where they would be gone for a day but back the next. It took me three whole days before I could actually believe they were gone for good.


    Well, am I the only one who thinks that bots are a small price to pay for being able to actually play the game? It just seems like an odd set of priorities...

    You are definately among the minority, but there are a few others who agree with you, the rest of us find the delete limit a minor annoyance to get rid of gold sellers.

    The posts in general chat by them were extremely irritating, 90% of the posts were gold sellers, and our ignore lists were constantly be filled. The bots were also a major annoyance, interferring with quests, and stopping people getting to the bosses.

    People can sympathise with your viewpoint, but the delete limit is the lesser of the evils.


    And what prevents Zenimax from banning those accounts? You have to pay for the game, it's not like they can just make another free account and start over.

    There are literally dozens of other solutions that would not have impacted legitimate players' gameplay.
  • Inordinate
    Inordinate wrote: »

    It's not on my end; the game doesn't freeze, the enemies do, then teleport on top of me and I die. I have a modern system pushing a consistent 70 FPS on high settings, and I can still move/look around while it lags.

    That sounds like it IS on your end. Are you using a router ? Do you have high speed internet ? Are you twelve people using bandwidth at the same time in your house ?


    I have the fastest Internet in the Western hemisphere: 1 Gbit, with latency in every other game of <50ms.

    It is NOT on my end.
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    They WERE banning the accounts, but the bots were coming from gold-seller companies. These companies aren't always ethical, and tend to use stolen credit card numbers to pay for however many accounts they want. So as fast as the Devs were banning them, they were creating new ones.
  • Averya_Teira
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    Inordinate wrote: »
    Inordinate wrote: »

    It's not on my end; the game doesn't freeze, the enemies do, then teleport on top of me and I die. I have a modern system pushing a consistent 70 FPS on high settings, and I can still move/look around while it lags.

    That sounds like it IS on your end. Are you using a router ? Do you have high speed internet ? Are you twelve people using bandwidth at the same time in your house ?


    I have the fastest Internet in the Western hemisphere: 1 Gbit, with latency in every other game of <50ms.

    It is NOT on my end.

    Well, I'm sorry, but everything points towards that... Is ESO bypassed from your firewall/anti virus ?

    Edit: brainfart about internet speed, misread...

    Edited by Averya_Teira on November 2, 2014 9:58PM
  • Sprinkles28
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    Just my thoughts...

    I understand that the limited character deletion can be a pain, but it's not really that big of a deal. If that's the ultimate deal breaker for you, sorry to see you go, but that's how it is. No reason to QQ about it. Either accept it or not.

    As for skill lines. If you equip a skill from a tree line onto your action set, it will level with experience gains (finding new areas, killing mobs, quests, etc). You don't necessarily have to use it, as long as it's on your bar. This isn't quite like TES, but it's a compromise for the MMO market.

    Also, reading books will level up different tree lines regardless if you are wearing that armor, or using that skill, or what have you. So if you are reading every book you see, it's quite possible and easy to level up Light Armor and Restorations Staffs (for example) without ever using either of those. However, how much it levels is really limited.

    As for your current skills not leveling. I do not believe that they are simply not leveling. What I think is that they have leveled as much as they can for the area you are in. For example, if you stay doing quests that are several levels below your character level and / or kill mobs lower than your character level, you get little to no experience points. So if all your quests are green (J on your keyboard for Journal and you'll see the colors) than its highly likely that the abilities you are using will not show any noticeable increase in level. You need to continue to do quests that are roughly your character level.

    And finally lag. I've seen lag spikes myself here and there, and they are a pain, but it's not constant and the game isn't broken.
  • Inordinate
    Just my thoughts...

    I understand that the limited character deletion can be a pain, but it's not really that big of a deal. If that's the ultimate deal breaker for you, sorry to see you go, but that's how it is. No reason to QQ about it. Either accept it or not.


    Well, I've shelled out the money for the month; you guys can either listen to me ***** about it for another 29 1/2 days, or Zenimax can refund my money.

    Accept it or not.

    As for skill lines. If you equip a skill from a tree line onto your action set, it will level with experience gains (finding new areas, killing mobs, quests, etc). You don't necessarily have to use it, as long as it's on your bar. This isn't quite like TES, but it's a compromise for the MMO market.


    That's not how it's working for me; my DK has all heavy armor and a bow with draconic incarnation skills on the bar, but as I am questing (and yes, I understand that books can increase skills that I am not using, that's not what I am talking about), skills like light armor, 2-handed, and ardent flame increase, but heavy armor, bow, and draconic do not.


    As for your current skills not leveling. I do not believe that they are simply not leveling. What I think is that they have leveled as much as they can for the area you are in. For example, if you stay doing quests that are several levels below your character level and / or kill mobs lower than your character level, you get little to no experience points. So if all your quests are green (J on your keyboard for Journal and you'll see the colors) than its highly likely that the abilities you are using will not show any noticeable increase in level. You need to continue to do quests that are roughly your character level.

    ?!

    Below your level? After the initial area, I have never seen a "below level" quest unless I missed one.

    I have an old level 31 character that I gave up on originally because there is nothing but level 35+ quests available, and I can't finish them.

    And finally lag. I've seen lag spikes myself here and there, and they are a pain, but it's not constant and the game isn't broken.

    I literally cannot even play my old level 31 character, because if the fight lasts more than 20 seconds, it WILL lag out and I WILL die without being able to do anything about it.

    Even new characters, level 3 and fresh out of coldharbour, die regularly to lag.
  • Inordinate
    Well, I'm sorry, but everything points towards that... Is ESO bypassed from your firewall/anti virus ?


    Yea, it's all opened up.
  • Gythral
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    Minimise the number of other processes running, & stop your browser using hardware acceleration, if you use it while TESO is running.
    Set your graphics settings a few pegs lower, & try that, if things improve, up the settings slowly.
    Open ports both in your software firewall & router. see: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/523/kw/firewall

    Go back to the previous zone & search for the quests/hubs you missed, it is hard to under level in TESO until VR5, if you do all the quests, most of the dolmens & world bosses (if you can't find them maybe this addon will help http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info667-Destinations.html )

    If you cannot live with the deletion limits, then I suggest moving on, it's a pain I know but it works to limit 'bots and spam!
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  • Vyle_Byte
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    Dude you are way too hung up on this issue of character delete limit. I get that you are frustrated but we who have been here the whole time have gotten used to it and appreciate what they did to get rid of the bots. You say its game breaking, how on earth is it game breaking? It doesn't matter what 'HUNDREDS of other MMOs have done, this is what ESO has chosen to do. Period.

    What you need to do is contact customer support for all of these issues, since you seem bound and determined to give no s**** about what anyone says here. Put in a ticket, you don't have to be in game to do it. Actually, I've gotten faster responses if I use the contact support here on the forums. Something is screwy and they can help you figure it out (not the delete limit, you just have to live with that.)
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  • Inordinate
    FYI: Still no deletions allowed.

    Is there an addon to tell you when you can delete again, or do I just need to log in once a day until it magically happens?
  • Inordinate
    Gythral wrote: »
    Minimise the number of other processes running, & stop your browser using hardware acceleration, if you use it while TESO is running.
    Set your graphics settings a few pegs lower, & try that, if things improve, up the settings slowly.
    Open ports both in your software firewall & router. see: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/523/kw/firewall


    Way ahead of you; again, getting a consistent 70 FPS and low latency. The problem is not on my end.

    Gythral wrote: »
    Go back to the previous zone & search for the quests/hubs you missed, it is hard to under level in TESO until VR5, if you do all the quests, most of the dolmens & world bosses (if you can't find them maybe this addon will help http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info667-Destinations.html )


    OK, that looks great; um, how do I actually install it? The instructions on 3 different sites are incorrect.


    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
    Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on November 3, 2014 2:08AM
  • ZOS_ShannonM
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    Hi there, folks. We have had to remove or edit multiple posts in this thread for being flaming and nonconstructive. Please keep the Code of Conduct in mind when posting, and be respectful of one another.

    @Inordinate, if you did not get back one of your character deletes 24 hours after deleting characters, we recommend contacting our Customer Support Team. They will be happy to look into this and sort it out.

    Thank you all for your understanding.
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  • Inordinate
    1 delete finally came back after 36+ hours, not that this particularly helps, since I just rolled another character that didn't pan out after 3 or 4 levels. This and the lag are game-breaking issues.
  • Sprinkles28
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    I'm gonna try and make this as short as possible because at this point I don't think you care to listen, but rather are just here to QQ. Which by the way, we don't have to listen to, nor do I think ESO will give you your money back because you're simply unhappy with the deletion system.

    Skill Lines: I still believe this is on your end. If you have even 1 piece of light gear on that skill line will level. It seems funny how you're the only person to have abilities you don't use level up and abilities you do use not level up considering the thousands of players in ESO not having this issue. However, why not just put in a help ticket like several others have suggested.

    Quests: By level 30 there should have been a considerable amount of quests that were below your level. ESO is not like typical modern MMOs that have quest hubs (towns) that give you 15 quests. Exploring the world is a huge part of ESO. I suggest you explore the map even if there is no indication that a quest is there. If you just follow the story the quest line will quickly out level your character.

    Lag: What exactly is your high end rig? Specs? And though I have seen what you are talking about, enemies just not moving, it is very rare. You could just have the worse luck out of all people in ESO. However, it could also be a RAM issue. If you have bad RAM, or a small amount of RAM, it would definitely cause the same effect as you described, especially in high RAM intensity situations like combat. It's not uncommon to have average FPS (I consider 70fps average) but still get "lag" like situations because of low or poor RAM.

    But at the end of the day technology isn't perfect and maybe ESO just hates you. LOL It sucks but maybe it's a sign.
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    I just got the skill thing again; level 3 nightblade fresh out of coldharbour, carrying a bow, but I'm getting skill increases in two handed and destruction staff.

    I downloaded the destinations add-on and checked on my 31 Templar; I missed a few here and there, but 3-4 per zone, thinning out at the top end. I can go back and do a level 16 quest, or I can do a level 35 quest.

    I've turned the settings down to where I'm getting 100+ fps, but I still get the lag. There are other threads about this, though, so I'll just watch them.

    The deletion thing, though.... that's not a viable solution to the problem, however bad the problem is.
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    Still having the skill issue; I leveled a DK up to 10 keeping the initial draconic ability on the bar the entire time and using it every fight, but it leveled much slower than the ardent flame (which was not on my bar).

    Still having lag, and no help in the CS forum.

    Still can't get a new character right, since everything I try to do is just out of reach of the possible combinations available, and no one wants to answer any questions.

    Still taking some random amount of time to recharge character deletes.

    I've been trying to play my 31 templar, but groups are rude and I can't solo anything I have available.
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