@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ I'd love to help test a bit. But where should we post the feedback? In this thread? This is just one big mess. :-)

Is there any way you could provide us with a way to have more meaningful discussions about the testing results? I think the only real chance would be to set up a separate threaded discussions app for collecting PTS issues and feedback.

The absolute easiest way would be to handle this feedback via a subreddit. Reddit provides all the necessary functionality to properly structure this feedback. You could create one post per testing suggestion and then the differing opinions could be differentiated out in the answer threads.

I promise you this will make it much easier for players to put their feedback in the right place, and much much easier for you at ZOS to structure the feedback you are getting.

Drazhar14 wrote: »

What is in it for us if we spend time testing?

A less buggy live Update 5.

You need more?

Crafting writs

This is just wrong, my BS is level 39 my Char is Vr2 and I'm asked to make Quicksilver items, I'm told that is Vr 5 or 6, come on guys think about it, how much am I gonna get ripped of buying that stuff. What is superb? I have no idea what Mat or what level that is, I'm guessing its again way out of my level, I don't know anything about Mahogany yet I'm guessing that Vr 5 or 6 too.

So I'm wasting my time here it seems. this need to have an intro at a level the char can attain I think not so place that take me a month to get to

I've been doing quite a bit of looking for motifs and did some grinding for scraps. I feel the scrap drops are just fine and drop fairly well. The motif drops were fairly abudnant the first 2 days I looked but last night and today they seem a bit more rare which seems better because I found 7(3 duplicates) the first 2 days I searched and the past 2 days I found 3.

There still is some time left today and I don't know what changed if anything to make it harder to find them in the past 2 days but this would seem better than being able to find 3 a day for those that would actually farm for them. It would be nice if you could figure a way to allow for casual players to find and limit the farmers more but not sure if there's a way? The one a day timer for recipes was a good idea but they found a way to beat that one obviously.

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Drazhar14 wrote: »

What is in it for us if we spend time testing?

A less buggy live Update 5.

You need more?

I'd just rather put my time towards playing the actual game and progressing my character. There will be bugs regardless, like every past update.

Alright been trying the new werewolf and here are my thoughts:

The damage is awesome, feels good and almost worth the ultimate cost however the timer is an issue, 30 seconds is way too short...

I get why you're trying to do with it but its a bit too short my suggesstion would be, either increase timer by at least 10-20 seconds
Make devour skill reset the timer to full or let us keep the ultimate we gained in werewolf form into human form and while you're at it also heal stamina.

As it is now facing several mobs i feed, then wait for the cooldown to feed on the next and hurrying to next group of mobs only to realize i dont have enough stamina to use any skills..

Sidenote, using any skill/move/do anything will still cancel the transformation and use up all the ultimate

risen1981 wrote: »

Sidenote, using any skill/move/do anything will still cancel the transformation and use up all the ultimate

^ This also hitting the ultimate button twice before change cancel the transformation it use up all the ultimate plus it slows your character down to a slow walk.

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

I believe you had the Dwemer motif drop correct the first time and that first time may be to frequent. I just picked up my 3rd motif since 3:08 central time and it is now 5:44 central time. I was taking breaks(thought there might be cooldown), making them shorter each time and am thinking I can have the whole chapter either late tonight or early tomorrow, only because of duplicates.

I truly believe you should go with your first thoughts on most of these ideas and maybe not listen to ours sometimes. I said this before that you have a brilliant team and I think pleasing us sometimes needs to take a backseat to what you know is best for the game.

Unfortunately I have to make dinner now and can't continue this time process until later...

I do not know maybe you just better luck because I been checking for 4 hours straight and I still cannot find a chapter.

The only negative feedback I have is about the chat bubbles. Simply put, they are very bland.

Actually have the edges of the bubble change somehow when using /emote or /yell, instead of just having the same black bubble with different colored text in it.

Why is the bubble black? Why not a white bubble with black text so it will show up better in the world?

And last, the bubbles are WAY to high above a players head, bring them down a bit so they are not just hanging up in the air?

Right now, the chat bubble system is just a black text box that pops up above a players head, nothing interesting or visually nice about them at the moment.
Hopefully this changes since they are in beta stage, I was really excited about this feature, being an old school SWG player.

Drazhar14 wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Drazhar14 wrote: »

What is in it for us if we spend time testing?

A less buggy live Update 5.

You need more?

I'd just rather put my time towards playing the actual game and progressing my character. There will be bugs regardless, like every past update.

True enough, everyone wants something for their efforts. That proverbial carrot on a stick.

Mountain_Dewed wrote: »

Ok, I have them all already and a few extras. If I can do this, what would it do for the style in the real game?

Note: I would not do this in the NA server, I just want to show how flooded Dwemer style could become at current rate.

Probably be same as the normal purple motifs. People are going to get lucky or be persistent in finding them and find a lot and other people are going to have a harder time to getting them. There would be plenty of people who will be like I do not want to go look for them. Thus people are going to be selling their extras to make a quick profit because they know a lot of people are not going to farm for them and since there 15 of them there are going to be a lot of them in circulation regardless if they lower or raise the drop rate.

lordrichter wrote: »

You were able to see them? I bow before you.

The few hours I was on PTS, I was alone. I found myself wishing that the random NPCs had chat bubbles just so that I could see them when they prattle on about my exploits.

It is a noticeable omission that NPC chat bubbles cannot be toggled.

Did you turn them on? You have to turn them on to see them. Even then, since there doesn't seem to be too many people on the server, you'll probably need to turn the option to see your own bubbles on to test them.

Personally, I'm rather pleased with the chat bubbles. There is a noticeable delay between the chat box and the and the bubbles though. Other than that, I think they're pretty nice.

Prothwata wrote: »

Posted this in another but thought I'd drop it here too for coverage:)

Allow werewolves to retain their ultimate that they have gained when transformation occurs. We still need a boost to damage in after 1.5.1 reasonably at least a 15-20%. Above all, something I would love to see is the pack element.

Right now we get a maximum of an additional 7 sec in werewolf form if we are hunting in a pack with the passive... is this anything to even bat an eye to? Make this passive worth it... slow the timer by 25% for each ww to a maximum of... 100%!!! Aka a permanent wolf pack

RPers would love this!

Packs would pop up in pvp. No one would be upset and there would be balance!
Pros:
-they would be deadlier (boost damage by 20%) strong bleeds,disease ticks and heal reduction.
-we are more mobile in combat.
-werewolves...

Cons:
-Werewolves can't stealth
-lack of stealth means lack of bonus burst damage.... no 1.5k sneak attack
-We have no real range attack (attacking those on walls or keeps)
-We really don't have any surprises (cookie cutter skill bar)
-Countered easily by every bow user or Fighters Guild ability because you KNOW a werewolf when you see it... no mistake.

Though I honestly think it would still be fair if werewolves were given the ability to stealth. This new pack format would really make WW want to group up.

Allow those running evil hunter to see glowing footprints or werewolf outline when werewolves are stealthed 15m (hunt the hunters). How fun would this be?

That be freakin sweet. Please ZOS, nock down some of these silly boundaries you have up against werewolves and get creative with them. The pack idea is fantastic. Group up with a bunch of wolves and be a pack. That has been my dream since I heard we could be a werewolf. So, i guess that means during the beta. Make the dream a reality. WEREWOLVES UNITE!!! Though id like to be in werewolf form forever by myself but ill push for every little improvement till that point. On that day i will vow to howl in game at the moon on every full moon, and then say *** yeah IRL (in real life).

You are changing the increase of attribute points in Update 5.

Current, Level VR2-VR14:

• Magicka = 10 per VR Rank
• Health = 15 per VR Rank
• Stamina = 10 per VR Rank

Update 5, Level VR2-VR14:

• Magicka = 6.5 per VR Rank + 10 per Attribute Point
• Health = 9.75 per VR Rank + 15 per Attribute Point
• Stamina = 6.5 per VR Rank + 10 per Attribute Point

I think you should completely remove the Magicka/Health/Stamina increase for Veteran ranks.

• We have plenty of attribute points already, so there is no detrimental effect to character building and balancing.
• This brings the Veteran ranks closer together, so that it is easier for us to play with/against our mates.
• The increases in attributes on the gear is plenty to differentiate a VR14 from a VR1.

"Do stamina abilities feel more useful now?"

For bows, yes, very much so. For Carve, it's sort of the same as before in terms of usefulness, whereas you lowered the Ultimate generated per target from 3 to 2, you did however increase it's damage, which kinda evens it out for me.

Now for Uppercut and it's morphs, you did a rather abysmal job as I barely notice a change at all if any. The cast time is barely noticeable in change, and the damage is even less so, especially when compared to how frighteningly powerful and fast bows have become with Snipe and Poison Injection. I still say increase the damage by a much larger portion than 2%, say 10% or even 15%, and reduce the cast time to .5 Sec. I say this due mostly in part to the fact that to use Uppercut, you have to be in melee, which is a massive disadvantage due to the way this game currently operates (everything is stacked against melee, everything).

Momentum and it's morph Rally is INCREDIBLE. That is a perfect example of how to buff a skill proper without making it insane, kudos to you fine gents and ladies.

Reverse Slice might be borderline OP in PvP, but only time will tell on that one, but kudos nonetheless.

Critical Rush feels much weaker now than it did before this, idky, but it does. Stampede feels like it's been overgimped tbh, but the snare still proves useful, and if anything now emphasizes other skills from class trees that don't normally get used for the sake of Crowd Control, so we'll see how this change goes down in time.

Forceful is also good in theory but utterly terrible in practice, since things like Dual Wielding and Bows skills can be used in spam with a constant stream of death, whereas the 2H skills must stop to charge up slowly to unleash their next attack in full, this actually crippling their damage instead of saving it, but more on that below.

"Do any stamina abilities feel too powerful, or not powerful enough?"

I fear Snipe might be too powerful, far too powerful in PvP, however your recent (and very controversial, and if I may say, very stupid) decision to nerf all stealth attacks across the board in both PvP and PvE may yet make it so it's not overpowered in PvP but still very powerful for basic out of stealth combat in PvE. My advice there would've been to simply separate the two damage types, making it hit for full force in PvE but a grossly reduced rate in PvP on players, my two cents. But you're getting gripe no matter what you do, so alas, I say leave bows as is because for once a Stamina Weapon can compete with a Staff or Magic based weapon.

On that note however, Dual Wielding is still plenty powerful, and if anything you have made it perfect for both PvP and PvE for the purpose of strong, consistent, and usefully desired DPS, right where it both needs to and should be. Kudos to you. But alas, you leave behind yet again the mighty-not-so-mighty Two Handed Weapons in the rear, and not for the better.

What you did for 2H Maces in Heavy Weapons was pure and utter genius, perfect, leave it don't touch it make love to it. Axes need a similar bit of love since bleeds don't affect everything in this game and frankly even if it did, it's a painfully small amount anyway. Make the bleed scale with weapon damage or let it give an increase to Critical Strike Chance instead, much more incentive to use 2H axes (since they look kind of dinky and small), and as for 2H Swords, 5% is pretty powerful in it's own right but since Maces will be doing 20% Armor Pen, it might be prudent to bump the damage buff to 10%.

And speaking of passives, back to what I was saying earlier about Forceful. You originally wrote it in the patch notes that this ability would buff weapon damage by 5/10% for 7 Seconds after a successful Heavy Attack, but on the PTS you made it so it only works for one attack, the one directly after the Heavy Attack. The latter is terrible in practice and actually hurts 2H as a whole, and if I may, the former, the one where after a heavy attack you get 7 seconds of increased damage, is vastly superior and even fair for the way other weapons in this game works. If I were you @ZoS, I would very much change it so that Forceful is a short term buff, or if you really want 2H to have to use Heavy Attacks to gain it's full benefits, make Uppercut deal grossly more damage in order to keep up with Bows and Dual Wielding.

Werewolves:

How do the new werewolf improvements feel?

Well, I've never tried Werewolf before because I heard/knew how bad they were. I am getting bitten next week now after this. That should tell you plenty. If not, then I feel like the physical embodiment of "The Howling" movies. If you don't know those movies, I feel sorry for you.


Does the werewolf feel worthwhile and fun with the new improvements?

Read my above statement.