The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/
Maintenance for the week of April 22:
• [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 22, 4:00AM EDT (08:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 24, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
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• [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 22, 4:00AM EDT (08:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 24, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 24, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
Can you please tell us how you plan on addressing the guild bank "situation'
Will there be rollbacks? What actions are you taking to rectify the damage done? Im sure im not alone in expecting some kind of official word on what is being done.
Please dont leave us out of the loop, people are already leaving due to inaction.
There are so many ways people could have hidden their items, stashed away in a multitude of storage options that dont include banks/bags.
How can you promise us that you can make this game whole again?
Im sure we all are hanging for any glimmer of hope. Please dont leave us hanging.
Please dont leave us out of the loop, people are already leaving due to inaction.
There are so many ways people could have hidden their items, stashed away in a multitude of storage options that dont include banks/bags.
How can you promise us that you can make this game whole again?
Im sure we all are hanging for any glimmer of hope. Please dont leave us hanging.
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My friends and I are in mourning. Im just hoping they come up with an ingenious plan to catch every one of these cheaters. Rollbacks will cause to much of an uproar. Even tho I agree, it is the only viable fix. The problem is , itd have to be atleast a week long roll back.4
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Kyle_Roberts✭✭✭A rollback isn't an option, would do more damage than good, the amount of players that would quit...4 -
Yes it have to be in the game. Everyone macke mistacke some time.
My warlock in wow sold al hes armor when he was suposet to put them on, i hade a trade window open in the background, and in that time you was only able to byback the last thing you sold.3 -
Slash8915✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. A game-wide rollback would cause a lot of people to quit. ZOS is already having problems with PR, so this would be a terrible idea.VR12 Templar Tank
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yup, it rollback will kill, but if they wont able to catch cheaters that will kill our game too..2
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Noth✭✭✭✭I say ban the people that did it (not those that only did it once or twice, but those that obviously abused it). It was an obvious exploit. They get banned all their items in their bank and characters are removed from the game limiting the damage that the exploit does.3
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Locke_ESO✭✭✭A week long roll back would tip many people, myself included, into leaving the game. There is no way I am repeating 5 VR levels of content because they royally screwed up. I have already cancelled my reoccurring subscription (it was set for 6 months) until I find out what they are going to do about this. There is of course every chance I will resub if it's handled well.
Having a ruined in game economy would suck but its better than losing hours and hours of /played time.Edited by Locke_ESO on April 18, 2014 6:42AM2 -
I say ban the people that did it (not those that only did it once or twice, but those that obviously abused it). It was an obvious exploit. They get banned all their items in their bank and characters are removed from the game limiting the damage that the exploit does.
The problem is, alot of these people have smuggled items to other characters. I wont list them but there are alot of ways in which to hide items in this game. People are bragging about the millions of gold they have made through this on various forums. They are even cocky enough to share how they cannot lose these items through using these storage tactics I wont mention.
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FezzikVizzini✭✭✭Rock and hard place alert.
1) Do a big rollback as people have been doing the duplications for days (noone actually knows for how long). This will totally annoy serious amounts of players.
2) Do nothing and let them get away with it. There is absolutely no way that the duplication method that was used will be seen in any logs, so there are going to be stacks and stacks of rare and legendary mats etc in the economy. This will totally annoy serious amounts of players.
Yeah, I got a PC. I just don't feel the need to post it's specifications for an ego boost.0 -
Noth✭✭✭✭marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »I say ban the people that did it (not those that only did it once or twice, but those that obviously abused it). It was an obvious exploit. They get banned all their items in their bank and characters are removed from the game limiting the damage that the exploit does.
The problem is, alot of these people have smuggled items to other characters. I wont list them but there are alot of ways in which to hide items in this game. People are bragging about the millions of gold they have made through this on various forums. They are even cocky enough to share how they cannot lose these items through using these storage tactics I wont mention.
They have logs of everything. They could technically, if they took the time to do it, remove every single piece of gold and ill gotten item from the game. The Banning is just a quicker, easier less sweeping solution.
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FezzikVizzini wrote: »Rock and hard place alert.
1) Do a big rollback as people have been doing the duplications for days (noone actually knows for how long). This will totally annoy serious amounts of players.
2) Do nothing and let them get away with it. There is absolutely no way that the duplication method that was used will be seen in any logs, so there are going to be stacks and stacks of rare and legendary mats etc in the economy. This will totally annoy serious amounts of players.
Well put.
Personally the effort I have put into amassing some semblance of wealth over the last two weeks really makes it hard for me to want to keep playng if there are people all set for gear over the next few years.
They surely can rollback items and not experience over the past week. Would this be more acceptable? Even as I suggest that, I think of all the materials ive worked hard for in the last week and I am inclined to just walk away.2 -
FezzikVizzini✭✭✭marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »I say ban the people that did it (not those that only did it once or twice, but those that obviously abused it). It was an obvious exploit. They get banned all their items in their bank and characters are removed from the game limiting the damage that the exploit does.
The problem is, alot of these people have smuggled items to other characters. I wont list them but there are alot of ways in which to hide items in this game. People are bragging about the millions of gold they have made through this on various forums. They are even cocky enough to share how they cannot lose these items through using these storage tactics I wont mention.
They have logs of everything. They could technically, if they took the time to do it, remove every single piece of gold and ill gotten item from the game. The Banning is just a quicker, easier less sweeping solution.
Ah good, a dev has posted. You obviously must be a dev as you have such a good knowledge of what information is stored in the logs (everything - lol).
Yeah, I got a PC. I just don't feel the need to post it's specifications for an ego boost.2 -
Noth✭✭✭✭sunlfcub18_ESO wrote: »
Theoretically, it is possible to just remove the items gotten wrongly. However, that will likely not happen. A roll back will likely not happen either. The two likely probabilities are perma bans for for those that abused it, or bans and removal of any of the ill gotten items from their characters and banks.0 -
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Ban the Player and delete the 700 characters worth of gear.marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »I say ban the people that did it (not those that only did it once or twice, but those that obviously abused it). It was an obvious exploit. They get banned all their items in their bank and characters are removed from the game limiting the damage that the exploit does.
The problem is, alot of these people have smuggled items to other characters. I wont list them but there are alot of ways in which to hide items in this game. People are bragging about the millions of gold they have made through this on various forums. They are even cocky enough to share how they cannot lose these items through using these storage tactics I wont mention.
Which makes me ask "why wont you mention it" link these exploiters so all can see and hopefully get things force fixed..
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sunlfcub18_ESO wrote: »
Theoretically, it is possible to just remove the items gotten wrongly. However, that will likely not happen. A roll back will likely not happen either. The two likely probabilities are perma bans for for those that abused it, or bans and removal of any of the ill gotten items from their characters and banks.
The problem with that is, most people instantly bought second accounts to dupe on and sent all their gains to their main through various methods. So they lose their dupe account (which they planned for) and keep their god status for the games lifespan.
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Putok✭✭✭Step 1: Permaban everyone who abused the exploit.
Step 2: Delete every item they ever touched.
Step 3: Delete every piece of mail ever sent to/from them, and any items attached to that mail.
Step 4: Toss in weeklong bans for anyone that was holding obviously ill-gotten goods for the exploiters (meaning people that were "just holding" a few 100 stacks of legendary tempers).
Step 5: Reverse any upgrades made with ill-gotten tempers.3 -
Noth✭✭✭✭marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »sunlfcub18_ESO wrote: »
Theoretically, it is possible to just remove the items gotten wrongly. However, that will likely not happen. A roll back will likely not happen either. The two likely probabilities are perma bans for for those that abused it, or bans and removal of any of the ill gotten items from their characters and banks.
The problem with that is, most people instantly bought second accounts to dupe on and sent all their gains to their main through various methods. So they lose their dupe account (which they planned for) and keep their god status for the games lifespan.
You know how easy it is to see transfers like that? That would be something of a mass amount of transfers and be really obvious. Much more obvious than someone simply selling items. It would be just as easy to ban those as it is the dupe accounts. Further they could look at the ips of where the accounts were created and also see that as a link.
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Putok✭✭✭marcweiss81nrb19_ESO wrote: »sunlfcub18_ESO wrote: »
Theoretically, it is possible to just remove the items gotten wrongly. However, that will likely not happen. A roll back will likely not happen either. The two likely probabilities are perma bans for for those that abused it, or bans and removal of any of the ill gotten items from their characters and banks.
The problem with that is, most people instantly bought second accounts to dupe on and sent all their gains to their main through various methods. So they lose their dupe account (which they planned for) and keep their god status for the games lifespan.
All they need to do is ban by IRL name, and billing address.0 -
FezzikVizzini✭✭✭This is not the first time that such a thing has happened in an MMO.
They are not going to do a roll back. This would just cause far too much uproar. I would be totally amazed if that were to happen.
I think they will try to convince the player base that the culprits have been tracked down and banned. It's happened before. Of course, nobody will know if anyone is actually banned or not. I mean, it's not as if there would be anything to be gained by just saying people were banned is there ?
Yep, just tell us you have banned them when you find them. Because I believe everything I am told with regard to things like this.Yeah, I got a PC. I just don't feel the need to post it's specifications for an ego boost.2 -
Step 1: Permaban everyone who abused the exploit.
Step 2: Delete every item they ever touched.
Step 3: Delete every piece of mail ever sent to/from them, and any items attached to that mail.
Step 4: Toss in weeklong bans for anyone that was holding obviously ill-gotten goods for the exploiters (meaning people that were "just holding" a few 100 stacks of legendary tempers).
Step 5: Reverse any upgrades made with ill-gotten tempers.
Weeklong bans? No if they are involved, perma banned. I recieved a 3 day in game ban for posting a thread on these forums ffs. If they are that strict they need to be consistent.Edited by marcweiss81nrb19_ESO on April 18, 2014 7:04AM2
