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Mantikora Nerfed... Why?
timidobserver
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After all of the effort spent to learn that Mantikora fight you guys go and turn it into a joke now? The serpent image literally has no health and dies in less than 10 seconds now.
Was the neutering of this fight intentional?
EDIT:
The trash mobs are nerfed as well.
Was the neutering of this fight intentional?
EDIT:
The trash mobs are nerfed as well.
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itsBishop✭✭✭Seriously? I haven't been in SO since the patch today, but they already raised the resurrection limit... I can't imagine why they would reduce the difficulty as well.Edited by itsBishop on November 4, 2014 5:10AMPurple
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Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭Probably because there's almost nobody doing SO.
At least on the EU server there's not many groups who have done it.
I've never tried out SO so i can't comment on the difficulty of it.Edited by Maotti on November 4, 2014 5:11AMPC EU1 -
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✭✭✭✭Seriously?
Yes really. We aren't even strategically pulling the mobs anymore. We are just rushing through them like it is AA.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭Do you have a video or something? If this is true then it's actually pretty disappointing. Still working on the Mantikora and I really appreciated having to put some real effort into SO to have something to work on for a while..2 -
Dalglish✭✭✭I hope this is not true, makes the efforts that groups have gone to completely worthless!Victrix EU - EP & AD -
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✭✭✭✭Do you have a video or something? If this is true then it's actually pretty disappointing. Still working on the Mantikora and I really appreciated having to put some real effort into SO to have something to work on for a while..
No we did not record it, but dps checking has been removed from the fight entirely. If you do the mechanics and movements it will die. The serpent image could probably heavy attacked to death in under 30 seconds now.
The final boss, as far I can tell, was not changed.
Edited by timidobserver on November 4, 2014 2:15PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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I sure hope this is some kind of bug...
Pls let the only decent and challenging endgame content as it is. The raise of soul reservoirs was already an unnecesarry thing to do...0 -
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✭timidobserver wrote: »Do you have a video or something? If this is true then it's actually pretty disappointing. Still working on the Mantikora and I really appreciated having to put some real effort into SO to have something to work on for a while..
No we did not record it, but dps checking has been removed from the fight entirely. If you do the mechanics and movements it will die. The serpent image could probably heavy attacked to death in under 30 seconds now.
The final boss, as far I can tell, was not changed.
Very disappointing. Movement isn't that hard once you get it, and if the Serpents Image can be killed that fast it will be a significant decrease in difficulty.. oh well, I'll see if I can check this out myself tonight.
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Kraen✭✭✭Did you really stealthnerf the Serpent Trial?
So we worked month for nothing?
This game is already so bad for PvE competition and you are doing it even worse.Edited by Kraen on November 4, 2014 3:30PMFinneas of Baby Face Bananas
Free to Play? No, thx.0 -
Kyoma✭✭✭If this is true and it's not some strange bug with Dungeon Scaling then I too am very angry. Doing SO has been hard these past weeks and after alot of work we were able to do it.Will I be able to forget all the wounds that pierce my flesh?
You and your childish justice. I'll rip it to pieces.
Come on, it's showtime. A rain of blood like a volcano
And now I'll blow all of you and you and you...
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rophez_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I'm not saying it's a good thing, mind you, but I can imagine the conversation went something like this:
"What percent of our population is using the new trial?"
"Uh, around .002%"
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✭✭✭✭rophez_ESO wrote: »I'm not saying it's a good thing, mind you, but I can imagine the conversation went something like this:
"What percent of our population is using the new trial?"
"Uh, around .002%"
"Huh, nerf it."
I could deal with that if it their intentions were made public knowledge rather than stealthily slipped in.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭dunno, its a wierd nerf, but mantikora is pulling random aggro now. dunno if this is intended? @Zos_GinaBruno
Seems like its the Puncture taunt, seems buggy.Edited by xMovingTarget on November 4, 2014 8:31PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »dunno, its a wierd nerf, but mantikora is pulling random aggro now. dunno if this is intended? @Zos_GinaBruno
Seems like its the Puncture taunt, seems buggy.
Ah, I guess that it wasn't just us. Our main tank was having issues with aggro as well. The boss would just randmoly run off chasing someone. It's like the duration of taunts got decreased to 2-4 seconds or something
Edited by timidobserver on November 4, 2014 8:35PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭timidobserver wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »dunno, its a wierd nerf, but mantikora is pulling random aggro now. dunno if this is intended? @Zos_GinaBruno
Seems like its the Puncture taunt, seems buggy.
Ah, I guess that it wasn't just us. Our main tank was having issues with aggro as well. The boss would just randmoly run off chasing someone. It's like the duration of taunts got decreased to 2-4 seconds or something
Dunno, but this makes bosses unbearable hard. Another guild is having same probs.0 -
Neptonic✭✭They nerfed the only FUN and challenging raid they actually had...We just ran Serpent again today and my god, it is a joke now. Took half of the raid full of new people and had no problem, other than taunting being bugged.2
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zbtiqua✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »dunno, its a wierd nerf, but mantikora is pulling random aggro now. dunno if this is intended? @Zos_GinaBruno
Seems like its the Puncture taunt, seems buggy.
Aggro appears completely broken from our raid just now.Officer of Da Funk (EP NA)
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✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »dunno, its a wierd nerf, but mantikora is pulling random aggro now. dunno if this is intended? @Zos_GinaBruno
Seems like its the Puncture taunt, seems buggy.
Aggro appears completely broken from our raid just now.
Yup, I tanked vet bc today and both pierce armor and inner beast were wonky. Sometimes they flat out wouldn't work, other times the boss would just saunter off to someone else after 5 seconds.2013
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rophez_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Kai Schober responded to this issue in German. Google translate says:The Mantikor- "Nerf" is more of a Manticore bug, because he was not the intention. Kill him as long as it's still so easy, soon he is again a worthy bouncer on the way to the snake.
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerHey guys, just wanted to let you know that this change was absolutely not intentional, and we are working to determine what caused this. Thanks so much for the heads up!2 -
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that this change was absolutely not intentional, and we are working to determine what caused this. Thanks so much for the heads up!
Thanks for the response.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭thank you Gina, pls make it like it was and also make the devs fix the taunt issue. Then i would be happy
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DaniAngione✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that this change was absolutely not intentional, and we are working to determine what caused this. Thanks so much for the heads up!
I love how ESO patches always cause a lot of not intentional stuff :disagree: (not being ironic - I really love it lol)
I mean, it's almost as if the game code was in Old Akaviri or something, like... "Hey, we added a new region but somehow it made every male dunmer in the game bald, we're really sorry and we're working on it!"
(no offense; I really like that
I'm a bit crazy, though...)
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killedbyping✭✭✭✭Is the fact, that old characters (i mean the one which created somewhere around game start and early access) not having normal drop rates of Vet set pieces and nirn stones, while new characters loot them like candys in halloween also not intentional ?
I have 3 alts. all of them get sontes and vet set pieces easy, while my main old charcter dont get anything at all.0 -
itsBishop✭✭✭Glad to hear it was not intended.Purple
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerGood news! Looks like this will likely be fixed in our next patch, and the difficulty will be reverted back to how it originally was.0
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Good news! Looks like this will likely be fixed in our next patch, and the difficulty will be reverted back to how it originally was.
Is this also including the lives increase?Edited by Nifty2g on November 7, 2014 2:41AM#MOREORBS0 -
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✭✭✭✭michael.patersonrwb17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Good news! Looks like this will likely be fixed in our next patch, and the difficulty will be reverted back to how it originally was.
Is this also including the lives increase?
Sometimes you have to read the patch notes. The lives increase is intentional and in the patch notes.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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I haven't been in Sanctum since the patch, that really sucks to hear.