Is this a vampire exploit?

murphy1337ub17_ESO

read the description in the video. I've also run across someone who was taking 0 damage from all abilities at 1% hp out of mist form, including flawless dawnbreaker. Is this a bug/exploit of some sort that I'm not aware of?

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Ifthir_ESO

No it's bad game design.

User is constantly putting up annulment/healing ward/hardened ward.

murphy1337ub17_ESO

That doesn't explain the tiny amount of damage that is being done while the shields are down though.

RedTalon

Make sure you report that all the same, they are still fixing vampires.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

lol this games pvp....

Cody

I have noticed it with some players as well, though I don't know if they were vampires. From what I can make out of this, that player kept on putting up shields and using heals. what surprised me, he/she never ran out of mana. that's what is confusing me. but you should report this.

TheBull

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

No it's bad game design.

User is constantly putting up annulment/healing ward/hardened ward.

=zero dmg. Streak streak Bat Sawrm = gg

Cody

TheBull wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

No it's bad game design.

User is constantly putting up annulment/healing ward/hardened ward.

=zero dmg. Streak streak Bat Sawrm = gg

BE spam is coming back it seems:( I denied it, and really hoped it was just a very few players doing it, but iv seen it more and more. ah well, people will call for nerfs on the forums and it will get nerfed again. not the right way to do it, but it will fix it.

Braidas

lol no. dude's using annulment+conjured ward+steadfast ward and you're not putting out enough dps to get through fast enough before he recasts. and to the dude who said he had endless mana... are you serious? lol.

Cody

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

lol no. dude's using annulment+conjured ward+steadfast ward and you're not putting out enough dps to get through fast enough before he recasts. and to the dude who said he had endless mana... are you serious? lol.

... if you are going to insult me, you can read my statement. i said that player NEVER RAN OUT of mana, never said they had endless mana. those two things don't mean the same thing. i just found it odd they casted all those spells, and never seemed to run out of mana. maybe its a set i don't know about, maybe they just have a crap ton of mana, or its pots. could be anything. it just seemed a little off to me/

TheBull

NookyZooky wrote:

BE spam is coming back it seems:( I denied it, and really hoped it was just a very few players doing it, but iv seen it more and more. ah well, people will call for nerfs on the forums and it will get nerfed again. not the right way to do it, but it will fix it.

Just a few weeks ago I could tell who the good players were, not anymore. Insert some random name + some random sorc/dk + bat swarm.

Way too much cheese in the game atm.

Krinaman

He doesn't run out of mana because he's using harness magicka. The more you hit him, the more mana you feed him.

Braidas

NookyZooky wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

No it's bad game design.

User is constantly putting up annulment/healing ward/hardened ward.

=zero dmg. Streak streak Bat Sawrm = gg

BE spam is coming back it seems:( I denied it, and really hoped it was just a very few players doing it, but iv seen it more and more. ah well, people will call for nerfs on the forums and it will get nerfed again. not the right way to do it, but it will fix it.

only thing that should be fixed is it should be ae capped....well ideally nothing should be but if everything is i dont see why streak is the exception

NookyZooky wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

lol no. dude's using annulment+conjured ward+steadfast ward and you're not putting out enough dps to get through fast enough before he recasts. and to the dude who said he had endless mana... are you serious? lol.

... if you are going to insult me, you can read my statement. i said that player NEVER RAN OUT of mana, never said they had endless mana. those two things don't mean the same thing. i just found it odd they casted all those spells, and never seemed to run out of mana. maybe its a set i don't know about, maybe they just have a crap ton of mana, or its pots. could be anything. it just seemed a little off to me/

w/e w/ the semantics he rlly doesn't seem to be using a crazy amount of magicka...but just an example, seducer+warlock+spell pots+harness magicka=a lot of magicka. you guys should really stop rushing to report people.

IcyDeadPeople

NookyZooky wrote: »

what surprised me, he/she never ran out of mana. that's what is confusing me.

When a damage shield is stacked with harness magicka, you get 95 magicka back each time the shield takes damage, whether from damage over time, like caltrops or from light/heavy attacks.

To counter this, you have to do enough burst dps to quickly break through the shields.

Cody

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

what surprised me, he/she never ran out of mana. that's what is confusing me.

When a damage shield is stacked with harness magicka, you get 95 magicka back each time the shield takes damage, whether from damage over time, like caltrops or from light/heavy attacks.

To counter this, you have to do enough burst dps to quickly break through the shields.

alright. did not know that. glad to see someone was willing to just tell me instead of getting into a fight with me.

Tintinabula

Ive got to say this is someone from my side and while i find it odd that somone that low rank could fend off your attacks that well..I see this in all factions..the random DK or templar mostly..occasionally a sorc..rarely an NB who simply take no damage.

While I cast shields quite often too..my health still wavers.

jaybo1727

I dunno about the specific instance in the video, but as for a vampire exploit I don't think so. You also talked about mist form in the original post, and I had a friend who was working on a build that made her pretty much invincible with it. With the mist form she'd take less damage, and then had either another skill or armor set (can't remember which but I can ask her if you message me) that negated the rest of the damage. I think she was saying that she was having over 100% damage reduction, making it so she'd take no damage while combining the skills.

Not really of help since I didn't notice any mist form in the video, but if you happen to run into someone like I was talking about above (unless they nerfed it), then they might be running a similar build.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

^ the fact that can even happen shows how bad he design is in this game for pvp. lol.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Damage shields from different skills cast by the same person need to overwrite each other while ignoring any "when shield expires" effects, and problem solved.

Ifthir_ESO

TheBull wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

No it's bad game design.

User is constantly putting up annulment/healing ward/hardened ward.

=zero dmg. Streak streak Bat Sawrm = gg

Yep. Pretty much.

hopefully PvP gets a full patch where it is the sole focus

Ifthir_ESO

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

To counter this, you have to do enough burst dps to quickly break through the shields.

And therein is the pickle because 9/10 sorcs are bolt escaping away with all that mana you keep feeding them. Then they pop a pot, bolt more, lol, then streak back and kill you as you are now away from your groupmates.

Tintinabula

yea I saw her casting harness magika(that's the little fist grab down animation) but i didn't see any others.

Actually..she reminds me of Sabre Ali. Harness Magika ,Hardened ward..Healing ward as well.(there's also the shield from having a pet that sorcs get and they don't even have to have the pet spawned I "think") You have to hit him rather hard to get his health to move..but...it still moves.

dcincali

Not a vampire exploit, just a shield stacker with a cheese build. If you look at her health bar you can see the shiled is taking damage but she is able to keep up shields due to the magicka you are giving her from attacks and harness magicka. You could have healed threw that soul assault but looks like you just gave up. Next time just avoid the garbage players and move on.

Domander

The video taker has no CC on their bar and is doing mostly light attacks.... The sorcerer being attacked is very defensive (nothing wrong with that) which is why it took so long for them to kill you.

I think anyone can outheal/shield anyone if you don't use any CC/debuff/burst.

oh, and to comment on the video description. Armor/resist reduction does nothing against damage shields, damage shields already take full damage. (you can't reduce 0 armor/resists)

Blazzin-Ace

Killed that sorc many times, problem is you fed her mana without using any CC.. cant cast shields if your on your ass getting the business.

TRIP233

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Damage shields from different skills cast by the same person need to overwrite each other while ignoring any "when shield expires" effects, and problem solved.

^ This right here. Devs Pay attention. This guy just fixed an exploit for you.

Halrloprillalar

That's not a vamp exploit, it's a player exploit, not sure how that's happening

wards don't feed magika if the attacks are physical and don't reduce said dmg. Not sure what's happening here

Halrloprillalar

Tintinabula wrote: »

yea I saw her casting harness magika(that's the little fist grab down animation) but i didn't see any others.

Actually..she reminds me of Sabre Ali. Harness Magika ,Hardened ward..Healing ward as well.(there's also the shield from having a pet that sorcs get and they don't even have to have the pet spawned I "think") You have to hit him rather hard to get his health to move..but...it still moves.

there is no such 'ward' hardened ward is the only sorc specific bubble

Luvsfuzzybunnies

Krinaman wrote: »

He doesn't run out of mana because he's using harness magicka. The more you hit him, the more mana you feed him.

I'll have to rewatch* the video but it looked like he was using Stamina abilities to hit the sorc which should not refund magicka per annulment wording.

Edit: rewatched yes it was all stamina based or light attacks. I do however see someone posted if you use multiple shields all attacks give back 100 magicka. Which seems like a bug worth hot fixing immediately.

Mumyo

PvP is entirely broken and there is no fix in sight.
But u have reason to be happy... we can now colour our armor and in the upcoming patch we will be able to level up to vr 14 and maybe we have a little different landscape colour!

So pls stop complaining.

BEZDNA

I don't know was this player cheating or not, but i know for sure that not so long time ago it was possible to get permanent 75% damage mitigation from mist form, moreover it was possible to stack this effect multiple times, so you get 0 dmg from any source. I thought they tixed this exploit, but may be i was wrong.